Animated movie. Absolutely loved it.
What was your favorite Transformers film?
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Mmm, imagine doing that with an Avengers movie. The main character being an annoying high school kid, his sort of boring girlfriend, his wacky parents, a wacky CIA guy, and some soldier guy. And the Avengers themselves are barely in it and don't say or do anything memorable apart from cause explosions.
It'd be like "yeah, we could do that... or we could, you know, have the movie called The Avengers be about The Avengers."
I know they're expensive to have on screen, but I just don't really see the point of having Transformers movies where they're barely in it and don't really do anything.
btw, while on the topic of the 1986 movie, I've a question. I know the real-world answer is "because they wanted to sell new/more toys," but within the G1 universe is there any explanation of where charatcers like Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, Kup, Arcee etc came from?
ie, why we never saw them in the two seasons that came before in the show. Granted there's 20 years of events we don't see between season 2 (the 80s) and the movie (2005)
I just wondered if the comics or whatnot ever covered that perioid?
Then again, other characters like the Protectobots and Omega Supreme just randomly appeared in Season 2, so it's not like it hadn't happened before.
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My theory on that is Ultra Magnus, Kup and others were autobots still back on Cybertron fighting the war, hiding, surviving, or whatever. The autobots we see on earth in the original series can't be the only autobots left from a planet full of them.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. IIRC the first 2 seasons of Geewun were set in real time (1984~1985?) and then the film blasted into the future: 2005. By that time They had brought whichever Cybertron-based bots back to Earth.
Sadly, if you prefer the newer gen of G1 bots (Arcee, Galvatron, etc), there's but a 30 episode season 3 and a lowly 3 episodes of season 4 containing those heroes.... but the good news is, if you can handle the subs, Transformers Headmasters is the Japanese continuation of G1 (I consider it season 5) and story-wise it's the best of the bunch. Some terrific stuff in there if you can deal with the continuity foolishness. They play pretty loose with the established order of the first 4 seasons... but the animation is up several notches and it's a bit more directed at older audiences because it wasn't aimed for a North American audience.
I turned my nose up at Headmasters for years but watched the whole series last summer and my jaw was on the floor. Pretty amazing stuff.
Back to the film topic, it's interesting to see what Wikipedia says about the future of this series, and that we should be seeing another live action film in just over a year from now:
"Transformers 5 (2016) Paramount Pictures' Rob Moore stated that there have been talks for a Transformers 5 and Transformers 6. On June 18, 2014, Paramount Pictures Senior Vice President Edward Ryan promised a fifth Transformers film to be released on June 24, 2016.[5]
On October 31, 2014, Michael Bay announced that he will be producing the film instead of directing.[6]
In December 2014, Mark Wahlberg confirmed his return for the sequel.[7]
On March 27, 2015, Deadline reports that the studio are in talks with Akiva Goldsman to write the fifth film. [8]
Transformers Cinematic Universe
Paramount Pictures has tasked Oscar-winning writer Akiva Goldsman with turning their Transformers film franchise into a Transformers Cinematic Universe. The studio is looking to Goldsman to oversee the development of a mutli-part sequel, along with prequels and spin-off films.[14]
Goldsman himself will likely not be writing any of the scripts, but rather procuring talent to do so for the studio. He’ll be working with franchise director Michael Bay and producers Steven Spielberg and Lorezo di Bonaventura as a “writer’s room” style brain trust for the franchise.[14]
The franchise, based on Hasbro’s toy line, has seen a drop in domestic box office revenue, but has grown internationally as the franchise has taken hold in China. The franchise has made billions of dollars for Paramount, and they’re looking to expand in a way that lets them compete with the likes of Marvel and Star Wars.[14]
Bay has directed all four films in the Transformers franchise to date, but is looking to take a less direct role in the franchise, one that allows him to work on other films.[14]"
I love the first animated film.. but even I admit that after the opening battle.. after all the classic characters have been finished off.. after Starscream meets his end.. the film just isn't as interesting.. it does not hold up. I still love it.. and those first ten minutes are just fantastic, but yeah it doesn't work overall.
I voted for 2007.
I voted for 2007.
What I would really like to see is a live-action reboot of the Transformers franchise using G1 style original transformers instead of the crap they have been using. Eventually, they should do a live action remake of the animated film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPEOxq-YiDQ
Pretty much what others have said. The earliest drafts were written in 1985 and initially didn't have the 20-year jump that occurs in the final version, and that's why only the Dinobots and the Constructicons appear as the "big guns" even though the second season began establishing the combiner teams. The Marvel comics tended to be somewhat better at the characterization and not having new ones just seemingly appear out of nowhere, though the movie elements are a little stranger in that respect. Although Marvel did make an adaptation of the movie (using an earlier script with some elements dropped or modified from the final film), its events and characters are largely considered outside the normal Marvel continuity. Thus characters like Galvatron and Ultra Magnus only showed up in time-travel stories, while others like Kup and Hot Rod weren't regulars until they added Headmasters and Targetmasters.
Isn't continuity fun?
The IDW adaptation of the movie did include a big splash panel explaining why the combiners were absent during the assault on Autobot City: Megatron sent Bruticus and Menasor to destroy the Ark, where they fought against Superion, Defensor and Omega Supreme.
I actually liked the female Autobot Arcee, even though despite describing her as a tough warrior they always had her getting hurt
^someone grab the hand lotion from this guy before he does something he regrets.
I can't remember, did Arcee ever appear in a live-action Transformers film?
She was in revenge of the fallen
Hey, I'm a G1 fan through and through, but nostalgia blinds many here... the animated movie looks nice but is a mess story-wise. The structure is terrible, it makes no allowance for a wider audience (at least the UK version added some narration at the beginning - the US one doesn't even have that!)... yeah, I love watching it but I can hardly call it a good film.
I voted for the 2007 film; Speilberg's prints are still firmly on it and it has a sense of wonder lost from all the sequels.
I voted for the 2007 film; Speilberg's prints are still firmly on it and it has a sense of wonder lost from all the sequels.
I just rewatched the 86 movie and you're right. After the attack on Autobot City (which itself was a loud, jumbled of nonstop action scenes), the movie does fall apart. I never got into the season 3 characters introduced in the movie, the new Decepticons, the Quintessons, or Rodimus Prime.
Rockin Soundtrack though.
Call me blinded by nostalgia, but I'm not seeing any problems with the '86 movie. That movie rocked up until the moment you saw Unicron's head in orbit.
Aren't they all animated movies? 
The 80's animated movie is objectively a mess, but at least it's a fun and memorable mess with a gloriously cheesy soundtrack and several highly quotable lines.
The first Bay movie wasn't too bad, but damned if I can remember much about it beyond being all...Michael Bay. Saw the second movie on the theory that they might improve and build on the first....instantly regretted it. Practically got dragged to the third movie because a friend *really* wanted to see it and it was so dull I can't even remember a single thing about it. Right now, you couldn't pay me to see the fourth movie.
The first Bay movie wasn't too bad, but damned if I can remember much about it beyond being all...Michael Bay. Saw the second movie on the theory that they might improve and build on the first....instantly regretted it. Practically got dragged to the third movie because a friend *really* wanted to see it and it was so dull I can't even remember a single thing about it. Right now, you couldn't pay me to see the fourth movie.
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