The Walking Dead Season 5
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I love how they have switched places. At first, Morgan was bug-eyed crazy and ready to die and was at peace--or at least had purpose, and now Rick looks like the wack-a-do and Morgan is all Zen with it.
So, the wolves are coming, but ASZ should not get caught off guard, since everyone--from Rick's group to Morgan--will soon know about the living threats with "W" on their heads.
The rest of the episode was about not losing humanity: in the great Morgan, perhaps his coming back from his isolationist near-insanity will stop Rick before he is completely lost. Obviously, the "W" duo will want revenge once they trace the photos to ASZ, so I smell a big, early...something in season 6.
It was nice to see Father Gabriel finally let it all out about the people he locked out; contrary to all of the FG haters, he was carrying much trying to be a man following God, yet allowing his guilt to boil to the point of explosion. In a perfect bit of symmetry, it is Maggie who literally reaches out to him--bringing him back to faith when she rejected her own in the wake of Beth's death.
After Sasha being so hostile for most of 5B, her feeling like the dead--or wanting to be dead took its natural course, as the Gabriel conflict brought her to an edge she could not cross. Thanks to that moment, she remains human after all. If anyone recalls, in season 4, Sasha'a prison bedside conversation with Hershel sort of painted her to be agnostic of sorts, so for her to join hands with Maggie and Gabriel--seeking the only chance for hope above the actions in man's hands--was a logical, sweet conclusion.
...well, I hope it is a conclusion, and Sasha & Maggie never go back to personal darkness.
Carl is growing into a wise young man; he's able to advise Rick with maturity, even as he's the same guy who enjoys running around with Enid like what they are: kids.
Glenn, no matter how many times he's true to his word (trying to save that moron), seems like he's being set up. I can see the moron joining the wolves, and showing just how desperate he is to live--no matter the cost--even if that means proving his worth by setting up Glenn (under the pretense of gratitude / friendship).
Carol. What can anyone say? She is the wonder of the series. From her incredibly depressed state at the beginning of 5, to the Terminus rescue, and finally coming to terms with her life (the Daryl conversation), and her survivor's purpose, she is beyond a fascinating character study.
With Daryl aware of the wolves, it no longer makes sense to take trips out looking for more people (Aaron's interest), or much of anything else, since it is sensible to think the elaborate walker truck trap suggests the threat of a larger group.
Another sweet moment: Rosita forcing Eugene & Abraham to talk. She knows they need each other--even in the larger ASZ setting.
So, while the episode played out almost word for word like the posted spoiler, the actual execution offered more than a few emotional growth scenes.
The rest of the episode was about not losing humanity: in the great Morgan, perhaps his coming back from his isolationist near-insanity will stop Rick before he is completely lost. Obviously, the "W" duo will want revenge once they trace the photos to ASZ, so I smell a big, early...something in season 6.
It was nice to see Father Gabriel finally let it all out about the people he locked out; contrary to all of the FG haters, he was carrying much trying to be a man following God, yet allowing his guilt to boil to the point of explosion. In a perfect bit of symmetry, it is Maggie who literally reaches out to him--bringing him back to faith when she rejected her own in the wake of Beth's death.
After Sasha being so hostile for most of 5B, her feeling like the dead--or wanting to be dead took its natural course, as the Gabriel conflict brought her to an edge she could not cross. Thanks to that moment, she remains human after all. If anyone recalls, in season 4, Sasha'a prison bedside conversation with Hershel sort of painted her to be agnostic of sorts, so for her to join hands with Maggie and Gabriel--seeking the only chance for hope above the actions in man's hands--was a logical, sweet conclusion.
...well, I hope it is a conclusion, and Sasha & Maggie never go back to personal darkness.
Carl is growing into a wise young man; he's able to advise Rick with maturity, even as he's the same guy who enjoys running around with Enid like what they are: kids.
Glenn, no matter how many times he's true to his word (trying to save that moron), seems like he's being set up. I can see the moron joining the wolves, and showing just how desperate he is to live--no matter the cost--even if that means proving his worth by setting up Glenn (under the pretense of gratitude / friendship).
Carol. What can anyone say? She is the wonder of the series. From her incredibly depressed state at the beginning of 5, to the Terminus rescue, and finally coming to terms with her life (the Daryl conversation), and her survivor's purpose, she is beyond a fascinating character study.
With Daryl aware of the wolves, it no longer makes sense to take trips out looking for more people (Aaron's interest), or much of anything else, since it is sensible to think the elaborate walker truck trap suggests the threat of a larger group.
Another sweet moment: Rosita forcing Eugene & Abraham to talk. She knows they need each other--even in the larger ASZ setting.
So, while the episode played out almost word for word like the posted spoiler, the actual execution offered more than a few emotional growth scenes.
God protected him from having to do laundry.
Rick definitely shot Pete, not Reg. Deanna was holding Reg, and Rick spun away from Deanna. If he'd shot Reg he would have had to step forward.
After watching the season finale, Rick reminds me of Shane now. Killing the husband of the woman that he likes.
Shane is now laughing from beyond the grave.
Shane Walsh
Shane is now laughing from beyond the grave.
Shane Walsh
I thought they confirmed on Talking Dead that the Alexandra people did not know that everyone who dies (except from brain damage) turns. If so, this further explains why it would be unlikely Rick would shoot Reg instead of Pete, as Deanna would have no reason to have Rick shoot her husband instead of his killer.
Or, you know, killing the drunken idiot who just killed the community leader'sh husband. And killing the man who beats his wife and child. Shane wanted to kill Rick over Lori because Rick was in the way of what Shane wanted. Rick wanted to kill Pete because he was a problem, he abused his family; and there aren't a whole lot of options on what to do with him, especially when isolating him only caused him to come out and try and attack Rick and he ended up killing Mr. Alexandria.
Remember the timeline of behavior: Rick was stroking his gun handle when watching Pete before Carol expressed her concern, so like Shane, it was about his lust for a married woman. He believed Jessie should be his.
Probably for the same detail-missing reasons Glenn can brawl like a MMA fighter after getting shot in the shoulder: they just needed to get through the scene.
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Oh, I don't dispute that, I just couldn't help but feel they might be messing with us. I'm sure it was Pete too.
One thing about this episode that bothered me a bit was that Daryl didn't recognize the trap. As soon as I saw those tin cans hanging on strings and the broken locks on the trucks I knew bad things were about to happen. I'm a little surprised Daryl wouldn't have picked up on those signs.
The other way to interpret that is that he believed that she was someone for him to protect and make feel safe, & he believed that no one there, including her husband, could do that. The secret gun was his security blanket for doing that. She was nice to him, & vulnerable looking. That he might have been crushing on her a bit too is irrelevant. If there'd been no impropriety and she put down his minor advance (a single kiss) I see no reason to doubt that he'd have left her alone
...and you guys said this show never has twists. No one important died. That's like the biggest twist they can do on this show
STFU to all those people who were saying Negan would appear this season. Told you he wouldn't.
The ending of Rick shooting Pete on the orders of Deanna takes us up to the end of #77 in the comics. 6 episodes ago with Arron showing up at the end mirrored the end of #67
I keep saying, they're being very faithful to the Alexandria events, and Negan didn't appear till #100. Maybe he will show up in s6, related to the Wolves people, who knows. But there are are loads of things they could play with from #77-100 in the mean time. Big things.
The ending of Rick shooting Pete on the orders of Deanna takes us up to the end of #77 in the comics. 6 episodes ago with Arron showing up at the end mirrored the end of #67
I keep saying, they're being very faithful to the Alexandria events, and Negan didn't appear till #100. Maybe he will show up in s6, related to the Wolves people, who knows. But there are are loads of things they could play with from #77-100 in the mean time. Big things.
Ditto to whomever said Father Gabriel should go, because not only it appears he's completely gone around the bend but also by leaving the gate open he exposed the community to extreme danger.
Great episode. I also like the preview of Fear the Walking Dead for later this summer. We will get a peak at the world just before it went to shit.
Great episode. I also like the preview of Fear the Walking Dead for later this summer. We will get a peak at the world just before it went to shit.
Gabriel rediscovered his purpose, which Maggie and Sasha played a part in helping. The women were both in a place that faith could heal, hence the final scene of the three praying.
I just hope it never mirrors the Dawn of the Dead remake, or the "breaking news" / outbreak counter segments produced for the DVD...
He reached for the gun after the party kiss, so he ramped up from kissing a married woman to considering killing her husband the following day. Again, this is before he knew anything about the abuse, so his actions were all lust-motivated.
Aww, goody gumdrops for him. Now can he figure out some way of not being a complete douche by accidentally trying to kill his protectors every time he takes a walk?
Well, now he may finally be in a place where he can do that. Rather than just going around the bend, he may have finally turned a corner.
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So what's all this controversy about Negan, anyway? In the comics, that's the guy who got his head transplanted to the body of a gorilla.
(Let's see how many people get that one.)
Yup. The abuse angle just gave the writers a convenient excuse to have Rick get the girl without coming off completely scuzzy like Shane.
Wasn't there already that scene with him sitting on the porch that earned him the nickname "Porch Dick" because it was completely obvious to anyone watching that this guy was going to be trouble?
Rick's a cop. He recognizes trouble when he sees it. He's probably dealt with hundreds of wife-beating assholes. If it was plainly obvious to the audience that this guy is up to no good, why wouldn't it be enough to stir Rick's spidey-sense and make him doublecheck that the gun was there and secure?
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