Pegg updates on script

[Borgminister]

Here's hoping this isn't The Final Frontier...

 

[Relayer1]

Why is Pegg "going back to the drawing board"? Star Trek Into Darkness made $467,381,584 worldwide and has 87% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I hope they are not tossing out what Orci did. He is an extremely successful screenwriter who has a track record of writing hits.

Why is Paramount changing things?

Don´t get me wrong, but that is not to say that his script is good.

I'm prepared to hope that Pegg understands Trek and is likely to produce something better than either of the vacuous but action packed prequels.

It is only hope though.

 

[Cyke101]

Why is Pegg "going back to the drawing board"? Star Trek Into Darkness made $467,381,584 worldwide and has 87% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I hope they are not tossing out what Orci did. He is an extremely successful screenwriter who has a track record of writing hits.

Why is Paramount changing things?

Don´t get me wrong, but that is not to say that his script is good.

I'm prepared to hope that Pegg understands Trek and is likely to produce something better than either of the vacuous but action packed prequels.

It is only hope though.

Out of Pegg's Cornetto Trilogy, The World's End is my favorite. A bit of a dark horse, I'm sure, but it is for me. It's just layer upon layer upon layer of subtext about what the movie's really getting at, and every time I watch the movie, I find a new sign that I hadn't noticed before. That it has a surprising amount of fun and fluid action scenes is only a reward, and not the crux of the movie.

 

[Malaika]

Aside from still not being too convinced he makes sense as a choice, my worry is always the possibility that the next movie feels like an AU fanfiction disconnected from the other two in everything. I hope he doesn't ditch everything Orci&co did, even while adding their own touch and new ideas. He said he will have to respect tos, but it's not enough because for me he has to first foremost respect the tone, stories and characters of these movies and make it so that the movies make some sense together ( especially if this is the last movie too).

The new writers don't have an easy work to do for sure. I can understand that maybe they don't feel 100% free creative vise if they have to follow too much what was done before, regardless their biases (especially in Pegg's case), but that's the way it is. If you were making your own new reboot it would be one thing, but having the responsibility to complete something that is already established (and was after all successful) is another. I hope Pegg&co aknoveledge that.
But yeah, they are in a worse condition than Orci&kurtzman were when they wrote the first movie and I wouldn't want to be on their place. I can only hope they didn't hate the other two movies at least

 

[JWPlatt]

It's about the next movie, not the last one.

Considering that Lindelof convinced the others of the formerly employed trio to go with Khan, I think there is a bit of the last one in this decision.

 

[Amaris]

Here's hoping this isn't The Final Frontier...

Not that it will happen, and it would only be for my personal edification, but I would love to see that movie redone with this cast and Pegg behind the story.

 

[Mudd]

It's about the next movie, not the last one.

Considering that Lindelof convinced the others of the formerly employed trio to go with Khan, I think there is a bit of the last one in this decision.

The fact that the studio was satisfied with STID would be what gave Orci the credibility to push for and be awarded the director's job to begin with. It's also reasonably likely that when studio executives objected to the script for number 3 he overplayed his hand and dug in his heels (however anatomically unlikely that may be).

 

[fireproof78]

Aside from still not being too convinced he makes sense as a choice, my worry is always the possibility that the next movie feels like an AU fanfiction disconnected from the other two in everything. I hope he doesn't ditch everything Orci&co did, even while adding their own touch and new ideas. He said he will have to respect tos, but it's not enough because for me he has to first foremost respect the tone, stories and characters of these movies and make it so that the movies make some sense together ( especially if this is the last movie too).

The new writers don't have an easy work to do for sure. I can understand that maybe they don't feel 100% free creative vise if they have to follow too much what was done before, regardless their biases (especially in Pegg's case), but that's the way it is. If you were making your own new reboot it would be one thing, but having the responsibility to complete something that is already established (and was after all successful) is another. I hope Pegg&co aknoveledge that.
But yeah, they are in a worse condition than Orci&kurtzman were when they wrote the first movie and I wouldn't want to be on their place. I can only hope they didn't hate the other two movies at least

I have no doubt that Pegg understands the continuity aspects of writing. Part of his frustration with the SW prequels was their lack of continuity respect.

Also, they are not completely in the same position as the first film as Orci and Kurtzman had a writers' strike to deal with.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I heard idris elba is in talks to play a Klingon villain, I am fine with that vas long as he is not looking for revenge.

Elba would be a fine choice to play Richard Daystrom. But not as the villain.

 

[Cyke101]

I heard idris elba is in talks to play a Klingon villain, I am fine with that vas long as he is not looking for revenge.

Elba would be a fine choice to play Richard Daystrom. But not as the villain.

Okay, I'm just gonna say it. Every time I see Idris Elba on screen, I imagine that he just smells like the perfect aftershave/cologne combo, even if he's wearing a giant viking helmet. If Elba plays Daystrom, then Daystrom will be, by far, the smoothest supergenius Trek has ever seen.

(Sorry, Bashir.)

 

[martok2112]

I think Idris Elba will be a great addition to the next Trek film.
I enjoyed his performances in Prometheus and Pacific Rim.

 

[TheSubCommander]

I think Idris Elba will be a great addition to the next Trek film.
I enjoyed his performances in Prometheus and Pacific Rim.

Yes. And he was great in The Wire, as well.

I heard idris elba is in talks to play a Klingon villain, I am fine with that vas long as he is not looking for revenge.

Elba would be a fine choice to play Richard Daystrom. But not as the villain.

Elba could pull off a good villain. Wouldn't necessarily need to be a Klingon, either. He might be a good choice as Daystrom too, but I don't know how it could be done without rehashing The Ultimate Computer. Maybe working in a B plot with Dastrom, in an effort to phase out manned starships, trying unsuccessfully to perfect the interplanetary transporter. This could help explain why star ships are still needed for exploration, and not just as military weapons.

 

[Timewalker]

Frankly, I've been to enough conventions and conferences that I've lost track of the sheer amount of writers (fiction, non-fiction, academic, research, and otherwise) who use incorrect or colloquial grammar when talking directly to an audience, only for them to proceed to talk about their otherwise flawless work.

Editors, proofreaders, and multiple drafts are unsung heroes. And they do what they do so that we don't miss the forest for the trees.

You should have seen the messy article about the recent equinox and supermoon on the CBC website (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - major network in Canada). This paragraph is from the edited version after they cleaned it up a bit:

Sept. 28, Ontarians, and those living in Quebec, the Maritimes and parts of Nunavut can catch a lunar eclipse. While Ontarians and those living west and north of the province can see one on April 4.

Note that she mentions the eclipse in September this year before mentioning the one that is happening next week. There are other problems with the article as well. The author is a freelancer with no science credentials, and the article obviously was not adequately proofread either the first time or the second.

 

[Nerys Myk]

New Quote

But I think we just want to take it forward with the spirit of the TV show. And it’s a story about frontierism and adventure and optimism and fun, and that’s where we want to take it, you know. Where no man has gone before – where no one has gone before, sensibly corrected for a slighter more enlightened generation. But yeah, that’s the mood at the moment.

 

[mos6507]

If Pegg didn't like Orci's script, whether he's a self-professed fan or not, I'd say he's qualified to give it a shot, because it shows he has taste

 

[Khan 2.0]

More Pegg :

50th anniversary of the franchise, following up a movie that I think it's fair to say was divisive (Star Trek Into Darkness), new director...so no pressure doing this.
It's terrifying. We learned a lot. It's interesting actually, I had certain issues with Into Darkness as well. It's interesting to be able to take those forward and be at the helm a little bit. You're always learning when you're working with a series of movies because you go okay, what did people like there? What did people not like? What did we like? And that's a crazy way to work because we're shooting in summer come hell or high water. So Doug Jung and I are just sort of hashing out the story and meanwhile people keep coming in and going, "So can we build that? Can we design that now? Can we make that costume? What are you wearing? How many people? How many planets?" You're like, "I don't know. Let us try and fucking think of the story." But that's how the process is working. "Necessity is the mother of invention" is our mantra at the moment and it's bringing out the best of us. It has to. We have to come up with the goods. It's good because there's not room to be kind of like, "Yeah we'll take a break today; we'll sort that out next week." It has to happen and we have to write it and it cannot be bad. It has to be good and it has to meet a certain criteria which we set for ourselves. So it's an interesting process.

Are you starting with your own fresh idea? You're not working off the previous script?
No. It's completely new. I haven't read Bob (Orci)'s script and they didn't want us to. So we went back to the drawing board. We had creative meetings with Justin and there were things he wanted in there. I haven't written like this before. I've never been a custodian of something, it's usually mine what I'm writing. Whereas with this, you're given a bunch of stuff -- "Look we want this in it and this in it." Or Justin will say -- he's got an amazing visual mind, Justin. He's great at that kind of choreography. So he'll say, "What if this happens?" So Doug and I go, "Okay, right, let's try and get that into it." So it's an interesting process.

Are there things from the original series that you want to maybe see brought back into this film in some way, without just saying, "Let's stick a Gorn in there" or something like that?
Yeah. It's more about spirit. It's very easy these days, in the kind of post-modern era, to get bogged down in self referentiality or thinking, "Oh let's put Harry Mudd in." In a way I felt like if anything -- and I really, really am very proud of Into Darkness -- but I feel like the thing that for me was kind of jolting was that it kind of wanted to embrace itself a little too much, rather than take off and do what Star Trek did, which is to go off into the depths of the galaxy. It was about referencing not only a previous film but also kind of hanging onto the coast of Earth a little bit. So for me it's now about the spirit of adventure and exploration and also, in modern terms, just how would that be for people, to be away for that amount of time and that kind of stuff. We're trying to evolve the story at the same time as not letting it go.

I have a lot of thoughts on these ideas but we don't have enough time.
Yeah I know. As does every fan. It's one of those things, it's a beloved franchise and we're very aware of that. And also it's also fun. These days people kind of think, "Oh, things have got to be serious." You've got to see a lot of soul searching and what if you saw this character being all dark? Star Trek was very, very optimistic -- it was all about forward motion and the human condition. I feel like that's what it needs to be.

We have to wrap up, but could you say a word or two about Leonard Nimoy?
What a man. What a lovely, lovely man. It was hard for all of us. There was a lovely email exchange that went around between the new cast about Leonard because we all loved him, and particularly Zack (Quinto) who was very close to him. It was extraordinary. I remember just learning not to underestimate him in any way because he was 80-something when we did the first Star Trek and always kind of -- if you were in any way a bit reverential around him he would immediately shoot you down. He had a very dry sense of humor. But he had such a good heart, that man. He was a genuinely beloved and special person. It's a shame and I think really he was completely there as well. It wasn't like he became an old doddering man. I think it was just the physicality of life that got him in the end. He was still a steel trap mentally. So it's a great shame and he'll be missed.

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/simo...trek-3-mission-impossible-kill-me-three-times

“I think we just want to take it forward with the spirit of the TV show,” says Pegg. “And it’s a story about frontierism and adventure and optimism and fun, and that’s where we want to take it, you know?”

“Where no man has gone before,” he continues, before catching himself, “where no one has gone before, sensibly corrected for a slightly more enlightened generation. But yeah, that’s the mood at the moment.”
http://www.gamesradar.com/simon-pegg-says-star-trek-3-will-return-spirit-original-tv-show/

Sounds like they're aiming for a fun IV/VI style movie with some kind of deep exploration story reminiscent of TOS .


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[F. King Daniel]

Clearly, Simon Pegg has no idea about Trek and should be booted at once!

 

[Maurice]

It's not fun to try to write a script during what has to be pre-production, because the team has to start designing and building costumes, sets, props, etc. while you are still writing the story, thus you can end up wasting a lot of money by giving the go-ahead too soon only to later have stuff be cut, or run into problems having everything ready on set if you wait until the script is locked.

 

[Malaika]

"what did people like there? What did people not like? What did we like?"


but here's the problem Simon: what the vocal minority says on the internet, most of which are haters, doesn't really reflect what all the fans and your whole audience thinks.
It makes me shiver just thinking about what kind of movie we'd get if the writers were to listen to what the haters say online. If anything, with the last movie the writers did listen to some of the criticism that was moved by people over sites like trekmovie for example and yet, ultimately it's precisely the stuff that was done trying to appease that part of the fandom that was the most criticized in stid.

Leonard Nimoy said it well:

“There is no way in the world that a Star Trek film will please every Star Trek follower or fan, no way. And to try to would be a death sentence, you just can’t."

 

[ralph]

Who the hell is Lindsey Weber?