New Top Gear
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No Clarkson, no Top Gear, but we really don't know what happened.
I defy anyone to go punch a co-worker and still expect to be employed tomorrow.
There could have been provocation, it could have been self defence (though in that case it's interesting to note that the producer hasn't been suspended) but in the final analysis it's an assault, or an attempted assault on a work colleague and I'll be amazed if he keeps his job, especially given the supposed fact that he's on his last warning anyway.
If the BBC keep him they're going to have to come up with a pretty cast iron reason for doing so.
There could have been provocation, it could have been self defence (though in that case it's interesting to note that the producer hasn't been suspended) but in the final analysis it's an assault, or an attempted assault on a work colleague and I'll be amazed if he keeps his job, especially given the supposed fact that he's on his last warning anyway.
If the BBC keep him they're going to have to come up with a pretty cast iron reason for doing so.
He is right we shouldn't prejudge Clarkson, many companies suspend employee's whilst they conduct an investigation into an incident.
Indeed, it happened a few years ago at the Supermarket I was at, a Team Leader got into a fight with a Department Manager occured behind the scenes and both were suspended. The Manager resigned and the Team Leader got demoted.
Arguably, both Clarkson and this un-named Producer should have been suspended.
An investigation could prove there was provocation, but Jezza is the one who hit the guy, so he'd naturally be suspended.
If the investigation finds the other guy provoked him, he'll probably also be suspended.
If the investigation finds the other guy provoked him, he'll probably also be suspended.
As an example, here's the Telegraph's article, with quotes from James May: "No, I think he has been involved in a bit if a dust up, but I don't think it's that serious."
Interesting to see that the person who reported Clarkson's "fracas" was... Jezza himself. Oisin Tymon hasn't made any complaint. Which makes it even more suspicious to me that this happens at contract-signing time for future seasons.
Well, let's imagine you're a presenter of a certain type of show, and you're getting tired of the network you're on, and would love to take your expertise in this field to a create a new show for another network.
But, damn, your contract says if you voluntarily leave the network - even by simply choosing to not renew - you can't do the same type of show elsewhere for x nomber of years, in order to prevent you just walking off with the cash cow.
But, if you leave *involuntarily*, say by getting fired or by the network refusing to sign your new contract extension, then the clause doesn't apply, and you're free and clear to go and take that cash cow to any other market you like...
In which case the best punishment your network can give you is to *not* fire you- at least until they get that clause changed!
I hear that hotels menu has some Top gear.
...............(tumble weed roll on by)...........
What you say might be true, however I believe BBC/BBC Worldwide own the rights to the show, so even if he did leave to do another show it would have to be different from Top Gear, otherwise it could breach copyright(s)
What I'm saying is I hear talk of a clause that would prevent him doing any show about cars in any way shape or form for several years.
I have some doubts that a non-compete clause would be conditional in that fashion. Otherwise, Clarkson would essentially be encouraged by his Beeb contract to get fired so he could cash in with a new contract and show elsewhere.
At this point, irrespective of the fracas, the BBC certainly has the grounds to sack Clarkson for gross insubordination -- at a charity event, he called the Beeb "fucking bastards" who "fucked themselves" with his suspension.
Good job, Clarkson. I wonder if you're indemnified if the BBC chooses to sue you to recoup the financial harms you've caused them.
Good job, Clarkson. I wonder if you're indemnified if the BBC chooses to sue you to recoup the financial harms you've caused them.
In case the news hasn't got round, Clarkson is out - not technically speaking sacked, as his contract was up for renewal, but it's not being renewed.
James May is also describing himself as an ex-Top Gear presenter on Facebook, implying that he won't be staying either.
James May is also describing himself as an ex-Top Gear presenter on Facebook, implying that he won't be staying either.
Well shit anyway.
Of course now the truth is out. He did hit a producer and was in a scuffle with him for 30 seconds followed by 20 minutes of verbal abuse. It's not acceptable in any job of course but Top Gear wasn't just any job and Clarkson wasn't just any staff member. It will be a massive loss for the BBC.
May and Hammond won't stay on and whatever Top Gear comes back next year won't be one i'll be watching. Sounds like sour grapes I know but i've been watching the show since the 80s with Clarkson. I loved the current Top Gear and spent many a night with a beer or two laughing my head off which I sometimes sorely needed to do.
Of course now the truth is out. He did hit a producer and was in a scuffle with him for 30 seconds followed by 20 minutes of verbal abuse. It's not acceptable in any job of course but Top Gear wasn't just any job and Clarkson wasn't just any staff member. It will be a massive loss for the BBC.
May and Hammond won't stay on and whatever Top Gear comes back next year won't be one i'll be watching. Sounds like sour grapes I know but i've been watching the show since the 80s with Clarkson. I loved the current Top Gear and spent many a night with a beer or two laughing my head off which I sometimes sorely needed to do.
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