Are NuTrek fans more likely to like Enterprise?

[BeatleJWOL]

the camera (our perspective) stays in the parallel universe rather than returning to the "prime" one--which continues on its merry path, unfolding as you remember it. The events of First Contact still happen--we're simply being carried down a separate path by the camera, so going forward from the new movies, we won't see the exact same events. That does NOT constitute "erased from continuity" any more than NYC no longer exists because I choose to drive from Montreal to Florida along a road that does not bring me in sight of NYC.

What he said.

 

[martok2112]

Well told, Ovation!

I applaud you with a standing....well.....you!

 

[shapeshifter]

Object Permanence.

 

[Cyke101]

Still amazed at the amount of people that can't wrap their heads around this concept.

Not really seeing the relevance. Unless you're going for the tired old "but ur dvds havint ben ersad!!1" line. If so, then yes I'm clear on that, thanks. Hence "from continuity".

Not sure what the issue is here. The whole point of the reboot movies was to ditch the excess baggage of continuity and make Star Trek accessible to normal people. Are we now claiming that they didn't do that?

No. And the obtuseness of your position isn't helpful.

The new films are doing nothing different from the episode Parallels from TNG, with two exceptions. One, "prime" Spock, unlike "prime" Worf, makes no attempt to "return home" (largely, I suspect, because he has no mechanism with which to do so--unlike Worf, though, if memory serves, was helped from "home"). Two, the camera (our perspective) stays in the parallel universe rather than returning to the "prime" one--which continues on its merry path, unfolding as you remember it. The events of First Contact still happen--we're simply being carried down a separate path by the camera, so going forward from the new movies, we won't see the exact same events. That does NOT constitute "erased from continuity" any more than NYC no longer exists because I choose to drive from Montreal to Florida along a road that does not bring me in sight of NYC.

I'm the other way around -- I go to NYC or Montreal to forget about Florida's existence.

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And First Contact happened.

Actually, these posts made me realize one thing: for the most part, any references to the older movies that Abrams made, are from movies that are much better received. There are references to First Contact, TUC, TMP, and (obviously) TWOK. No real references that I can think of that go back to Nemesis, Insurrection, or TFF, and rightfully so. Remembering the good, but let's not bring up the bad

 

[JWPlatt]

Sooo... If I got this all straight, Han shot first in an alternate reality?

 

[Ovation]

I'm the other way around -- I go to NYC or Montreal to forget about Florida's existence.

I only go to get (in the spring) or deliver (in the fall) my mother-in-law's car. I never spend more than 24 hours actually in Florida on either leg of the trip.

Sooo... If I got this all straight, Han shot first in an alternate reality?

In the Prime reality, of course he did.

 

[martok2112]

I'm the other way around -- I go to NYC or Montreal to forget about Florida's existence.

I only go to get (in the spring) or deliver (in the fall) my mother-in-law's car. I never spend more than 24 hours actually in Florida on either leg of the trip.

Sooo... If I got this all straight, Han shot first in an alternate reality?

In the Prime reality, of course he did.

Yes!
While I have no problem with Greedo shooting first, it will never erase Han shooting first in the prime reality. Never!!!!


Oh, wait, George said it did erase the prime reality.
Ok.

Greedo shot first.




(runs.......hides)

 

[eyeresist]

The thing to remember is that the current George Lucas is not the Prime George Lucas.

 

[martok2112]

The thing to remember is that the current George Lucas is not the Prime George Lucas.

Yes, because a Terminator was sent back in time to kill George Lucas before he started on the Special Editions. Lucas not only escaped, but he also defied the one-way trip factor, went forward in time, made a Georgenator, sent it back through time, had that machine redux the OT the way George envisioned it...hence the Special Editions. The future was altered. There was no Judgment Day. Prime Lucas continues to reel in the dough in the future...especially after his final instruction to the Georgenator: Sell Lucasfilm and all attached properties and companies to Disney, at some point in the early 21st Century.

Prime Lucas Prospers. The Georgenator still exists, pissing off fanboys everywhere....and no one is the wiser.

 

[Ovation]

The thing to remember is that the current George Lucas is not the Prime George Lucas.

Yes, because a Terminator was sent back in time to kill George Lucas before he started on the Special Editions. Lucas not only escaped, but he also defied the one-way trip factor, went forward in time, made a Georgenator, sent it back through time, had that machine redux the OT the way George envisioned it...hence the Special Editions. The future was altered. There was no Judgment Day. Prime Lucas continues to reel in the dough in the future...especially after his final instruction to the Georgenator: Sell Lucasfilm and all attached properties and companies to Disney, at some point in the early 21st Century.

Prime Lucas Prospers. The Georgenator still exists, pissing off fanboys everywhere....and no one is the wiser.

You know, I might be willing to watch this movie. I've seen worse.

 

[martok2112]

The thing to remember is that the current George Lucas is not the Prime George Lucas.

Yes, because a Terminator was sent back in time to kill George Lucas before he started on the Special Editions. Lucas not only escaped, but he also defied the one-way trip factor, went forward in time, made a Georgenator, sent it back through time, had that machine redux the OT the way George envisioned it...hence the Special Editions. The future was altered. There was no Judgment Day. Prime Lucas continues to reel in the dough in the future...especially after his final instruction to the Georgenator: Sell Lucasfilm and all attached properties and companies to Disney, at some point in the early 21st Century.

Prime Lucas Prospers. The Georgenator still exists, pissing off fanboys everywhere....and no one is the wiser.

You know, I might be willing to watch this movie. I've seen worse.

Lol..... I may have written worse!