Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

[JonnyQuest037]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Donny, do you have any plans to do the airlock we see in TMP, where Spock neck-pinches the guy and steals the thruster suit? I always liked the looked of that set, and it probably didn't change much between TMP and TWOK.

Repeating my previous question as I think Donny missed it before. Any plans to build this set?

 

[Donny]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Donny, do you have any plans to do the airlock we see in TMP, where Spock neck-pinches the guy and steals the thruster suit? I always liked the looked of that set, and it probably didn't change much between TMP and TWOK.

Repeating my previous question as I think Donny missed it before. Any plans to build this set?

Yes, of course. I plan on building any and all sets that were seen of the Refit Enterprise in the early movies. However, some of the exclusively-TMP sets may end up having TWOK-style lighting and decor. For example, the airlock set will feature the more rounded spacesuits featured in TWOK.

 

[pfontaine2]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Was this set used in Wrath Of Khan or only on TMP?
Pierre

 

[Donny]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Was this set used in Wrath Of Khan or only on TMP?
Pierre

That was a set only featured in TMP. However, some of the elements ended up in the Torpedo Bay set.

 

[Basill]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

One of my favorite sets, even though I've always thought it a little deceptive. I'm convinced it was originally designed to be part of the saucer's upper hull airlock/elevator platform used in the film's climax rather than the airlock used by Spock (and Kirk in certain versions) that is recessed into the saucer's underside.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

It was meant to double for both, I think. Economically recycling/redressing sets for different parts of the ship is an old Star Trek tradition.

To make it fit more TWOK-style, I'd add the following somewhere in there:

- An emergency oxygen tank/mask hanging on the wall (in case the person coming back from EVA somehow ran out of air or his suit got damaged). Probably revamp a fire extinguisher with a face mask on top.
- A mini medkit (see above)
- A toolkit (for outer hull repairs)

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Yes, of course. I plan on building any and all sets that were seen of the Refit Enterprise in the early movies. However, some of the exclusively-TMP sets may end up having TWOK-style lighting and decor. For example, the airlock set will feature the more rounded spacesuits featured in TWOK.

Makes sense, since the spacesuits pictured here are the ones from the aborted Memory Wall sequence. I look forward to seeing what tweaks you add.

 

[Maurice]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Just steer away from Shane Johnson's plans for the set. They're completely inaccurate.

 

[Mytran]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

This room's lack of a door always struck me as odd. It makes the theft of spacesuits even easier!

 

[137th Gebirg]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

It may have been in the recessed area behind where Spock came out of. As First Officer, he likely had access to all locations within the ship anyway.

 

[Albertese]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

I always wondered why it's kept so dark in there. I mean, I get it from the film making perspective, but in-universe... why so dark?

--Alex

 

[Jesse1066]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

I always wondered why it's kept so dark in there. I mean, I get it from the film making perspective, but in-universe... why so dark?

--Alex

It could be to let your eyes adjust to the inky blackness of space before leaving the ship.

 

[Redfern]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Just BS-ing here...

Maybe to acclimate a crewperson's eyes before they go EVA?

After all, space tends to be a bit dark.

Sincerely,

Bill

 

[Maurice]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

The room was dimly lit only in that scene. In the deleted scene where Kirk is suiting up to follow Spock all the lights are on. That scene is also key to seeing what the rest of the set looked like.

As to doors, it's possible there's one just down that hallway.

 

[Basill]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

I always wondered why it's kept so dark in there. I mean, I get it from the film making perspective, but in-universe... why so dark?

--Alex

It could be to let your eyes adjust to the inky blackness of space before leaving the ship.

Just BS-ing here...

Maybe to acclimate a crewperson's eyes before they go EVA?

After all, space tends to be a bit dark.

Sincerely,

Bill

That's a very good idea given the blackness of space, but considering how bright it was when Kirk was suiting up (in the special cut scenes), that's probably not the best in-universe explanation.

Given the lone crewman, and the sneaky-plinky Spock music, I've always chalked it up to providing a mood for the classic "Graveyard Shift" theme.

(And remember... Don't ever turn your back to a Vulcan on the the night shift, or someone's goin' down.)

 

[Nightowl1701]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Just steer away from Shane Johnson's plans for the set. They're completely inaccurate.

I don't think he did that badly with them. Yeah, the scale's a bit off, but he had to account for
1) the entire unseen wall behind the camera view
2) the fact that this was supposed to be the lower saucer airlock Kirk comes out of in the deleted scene, not the topside airlock
3) that little side room beside the 'elevator'
4) As mentioned, you don't see the 'door' into the airlock itself
5) All this is supposed to fit inside a 1,000+ foot starship
6) No HD screenshots back then.

 

[Mytran]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

It may have been in the recessed area behind where Spock came out of. As First Officer, he likely had access to all locations within the ship anyway.

Isn't that what Shane Johnson suggested as well? I certainly recall a pressure door or something.
Anyway, why include a standard corridor on the other side of the door? It's not a feature seen elsewhere on the ship

 

[137th Gebirg]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Probably for the same reason that there's a corridor that technically goes off into space in front of main engineering. It's possible the set design people didn't think it quite through. I know it's a bit meta, but I can think of no in-universe reason why that would have been necessary.

 

[Maurice]

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Shane's version is loosely based on the set but he basically made his own thing. The room isn't the airlock per se, it's the staging area. In the deleted scene Kirk steps into another compartment to access the docking ring, but Shane stuck the docking ring in the wall opposite the corridor.

As I've said in the past, no version of the shooting script that I've seen calls for showing the room via which the crew accesses the lift to the top of the saucer, so why would the set have been designed to be that as opposed to two filmed scenes accessing the lower saucer airlock?

 

[Nightowl1701]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

For the same reason they shot the crew exiting the topside airlock, using that very lift, as a closeup (and hence built that particular part of the hull in full-size) - as a 'safety shot' in case the intended full-saucer fx panorama wasn't finished in time. Think of that still as part two of a shot that would have started in the airlock set. You've got it finished and sitting there, why not use it?