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Better Call Saul, the TV series

I was excited to see Kerry Condon in this episode. I was used to her English accent in Rome, and her natural Irish accent on Walking Dead. It seemed like any time she got angry, you could hear the little bits of Irish coming out.

Interesting episode. It was a lot darker than I ever expected from this show.
 
Slightly OT, but not really... There is some ongoing debate here in Albuquerque, now that BCS is a success, about how both this show and Breaking Bad portray Albuquerque and New Mexico to the outside world.

Granted this is just fictional TV... But it's damn good TV and part of that is because of the atmosphere surrounding the characters.

I'd be interested to know y'all's opinion or perception, if you will, about Albuquerque, based only on what you see on BB and BCS. Especially interesting, would be the perceptions from those of you who have never been here. :)
 
It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy, with bad Nachos, explosive beer, decent roof pizza, shady chicken restaurants, and more meth then you can shake a stick at. ;)

About the only impression of a city I'd take away from a crime drama or comedy show (and this is only in reference to ones that actually film where they're set) is the scenery, and in that regard, the area surrounding the ABQ is quite beautiful on the show and in real life.

If I took TV show impressions of cities seriously, I'd never visit Santa Barbara, California due to it's unbelievably high murder rate on Psych (in reality the city has often gone multiple years with zero murders on the books).
 
Interesting.

A TV show focuses on a handful of drug dealers over a long period of time, people wonder if it's portraying the city badly.

CSI, Monk, NCIS, Bones, Dexter, etc show Las Vegas, San Fransisco, New York, Miami, and every other big city in the country as having dozens of murders per week, with serial killers and pedophiles lurking around every corner, and nobody wonders if they are being portrayed badly.
 
marillion said:
Slightly OT, but not really... There is some ongoing debate here in Albuquerque, now that BCS is a success, about how both this show and Breaking Bad portray Albuquerque and New Mexico to the outside world.

Granted this is just fictional TV... But it's damn good TV and part of that is because of the atmosphere surrounding the characters.

I'd be interested to know y'all's opinion or perception, if you will, about Albuquerque, based only on what you see on BB and BCS. Especially interesting, would be the perceptions from those of you who have never been here. :)
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My opinion? People are idiots.

I was reading something the other day talking about how the people who own the house that was the exterior "stand-in" for Walter's in BB are tired of people tossing pizzas onto their roof. (As Walter does in a scene of BB.) It's a constant hassle for them to have to climb up to the roof to remove the pizzas people toss up there.

I don't know why people do stupid stuff like that, or call phone-numbers they see on TV. (I know lately if it's a real phone-number it's usually an in-gag my the producers. But in the past when a viable number was used people would call them expecting to talk to a TV character or god knows what. (See: The poor people with the phone-number 867-5309.))

For me, I don't think any show really ruins the "rep" of the town it takes place in, There may be some exception if the town is already known for the archetypes and stuff being portrayed (New Jersey, The Sopranos.)

But I've no expectations of the people of ABQ and BB/Saul isn't creating me a frame of reference or expectation. Sadly, for some it might.
 
The phone number they used on 24 was occasionally actually manned by actors from the show.

I heard that about people actually throwing pizza on the house from Breaking Bad. Now, I can get why somebody might think it was a cool thing to do. But I can't imagine how anybody could possibly think it was even remotely okay and not a violation of another person's privacy and property.

If I was the family living in that house I'd station cameras out there and press charges against the next person to do that.

I haven't been to Albuquerque but my mother has and she constantly names it on the shortlist of places she'd consider moving to if she left the area. I certainly don't see it as a nest for drug dealers any more than I think there's an alien transportation device hidden under Cheyenne Mountain.
 
The thing is, that as I understand it the people in the house are fairly welcoming to people wanting to visit the house, take pictures, etc. This really abuses their openness with their property.

As I also understand it there's an actual grave marker for Walter White in an ABQ cemetery that's visited by fans of the show, fine and good "on paper" but in reality their visiting it with some disrespect to neighboring graves of actual people.

The phone number they used on 24 was occasionally actually manned by actors from the show.
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Yeah, well used-in-TV numbers have only recently lead to "east eggs" for fans. But in the past use of "555" numbers or, more recently to avoid the 555 trope; numbers that begin with "1," was done to prevent idiots from calling phone numbers and disturbing some unsuspecting person in every area code.
 
I've mostly heard good things about Albuquerque. I just wonder, though, is the chicken still terrific now that Gus is gone? :D
 
Terrific episode that last one.

I hope Jonathan Banks finally wins an Emmy this year.

(He had already been nominated as Best Supporting Actor for his work on Breaking Bad back in 2013, but lost to Boardwalk Empire's Bobby Cannavale that year.)
 
Ensign_Redshirt said:
Terrific episode that last one.

I hope Jonathan Banks finally wins an Emmy this year.

(He had already been nominated as Best Supporting Actor for his work on Breaking Bad back in 2013, but lost to Boardwalk Empire's Bobby Cannavale that year.)
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Ugh, never gonna understand that one. Nothing against Bobby Cannavale but his character on Boardwalk and his portrayal of it were a cartoon.
 
marillion said:
I'd be interested to know y'all's opinion or perception, if you will, about Albuquerque, based only on what you see on BB and BCS. Especially interesting, would be the perceptions from those of you who have never been here. :)
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I've been there but just passing through. Growing up in the West (Utah), Albuquerque had kind of a reputation as a "rough" town. Really though, in the series it seems like pretty much like any city. The APD has been in the news lately for some excessive force issues, but they haven't shown anything like that in the shows.

Ensign_Redshirt said:
(He had already been nominated as Best Supporting Actor for his work on Breaking Bad back in 2013, but lost to Boardwalk Empire's Bobby Cannavale that year.)
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He also had a nomination for Wiseguy, I remember thinking he was robbed on that one, too.

Beagleman said:
Ugh, never gonna understand that one. Nothing against Bobby Cannavale but his character on Boardwalk and his portrayal of it were a cartoon.
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Yeah, got to agree.
 
BINGO! Well not really. LOL

It was nice to see Mike starting to do some work for Saul. Loved that part.
 
I love the way they portrayed the deluded entitlement of the Kettlemans.

Also at this point it seems that Kim is the only thing keeping Saul morally grounded.
 
JirinPanthosa said:
I love the way they portrayed the deluded entitlement of the Kettlemans.

Also at this point it seems that Kim is the only thing keeping Saul morally grounded.
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Yeah, seems that way. Which, I wonder what that means in the long-run for her?

Liked this episode very much and, man, Mrs. Kettleman was just nuts! Part of me was waiting for Jimmy/Saul to find a legal loop-hole the could exploit to help the Kettlemans but I guess it's a bit too early for him to really find that within him.

Great use of Mike to sort-of force the Kettlemans into giving in to the deal. Really speaks a lot to Hamlin that he "demoted" Kim so much because the Kettlemans are idiots. She got them the very best possible deal, better than really they deserved, and they ignorantly refused it. So he busts her down several ranks and sets back her road to partnership?

I wonder what will come of Saul leaving his files behind in Chuck's house, which he obviously did on purpose?

Enjoying the show. :)
 
Ensign_Redshirt said:
J.T.B. said:
Beagleman said:
Ugh, never gonna understand that one. Nothing against Bobby Cannavale but his character on Boardwalk and his portrayal of it were a cartoon.
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Yeah, got to agree.
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Gyp Rosetti would literally bludgeon you to death for a comment like that! :p

But yeah, I get the sentiment... it wasn't really the most three-dimensional of characters.
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He had some great one-liners, though. Calling Nucky a "breadstick in a bowtie" and the "I'll shit you out like yesterday's sausage" line always put a smile on my face. But I whole-heartedly agree that Banks should finally get his due for that amazing and emotional scene. It was sublime...
 
So, who harasses Mike and Saul for parking validation when Mike isn't working? ;)

I was a bit confused,myself, on why Mike used the RC car to "deliver" the money with the black-light paint on it. At first I thought when the Kettlemans both came out to look at it he was going to "lead them away" for confrontation in the wilds or something but, instead, it just sort-of sat there and seemed placed there. Didn't make much sense to me on why an RC car was used when pretty much anything could have been used.
 
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