The Walking Dead Season 5
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She never said he designed the walls. She implied that being a professor of architecture mattered but that was clearly a bit silly cos I mean seriously, I doubt he had blue prints printed up and a town meeting to discuss colour schemes or anything. More likely they just said, let's put up some walls
She just said he and her sons got the first plates up and then after a few weeks more people came and helped
Plus we don't see all the fencing. Some of the earlier walls might be more impressive
Who knows?
She just said he and her sons got the first plates up and then after a few weeks more people came and helped
Plus we don't see all the fencing. Some of the earlier walls might be more impressive
Who knows?
Why would the army send them to the Alexandria safe zone, if there were no wall around the community in the first place? But the wall itself, look like it was hurriedly built and look very unstable. All it would take, is a couple dozens of the support braces being knock off their connection and that section will fall flat.
I'm kind of curious why they only sent one representative from Ohio there. What about the other congressmen and the president?
She said she was en route back to Ohio when she got sidetracked there. Other congressmen were likely headed in different directions, while some of them surely stayed in DC.
Definitely. I couldn't stand the guy. His attitude (and their's to an extent) could be their undoing.
Well to be fair, the walls certainly look a whole lot more sturdy than the chain link fence around the prison. And I also got the sense they haven't encountered many marauders or people like the Governor who would would try to take the place over.
If all they're dealing with is zombies, then they probably don't have to worry about anything stronger.
Actually, there was one shot with people walking around in the background.
I remember it because I noticed (on my second viewing) someone pushing around a baby carriage. It stood out to me because of the line later in the episode where it was said that they hadn't seen a baby in a while.
Who knows, they may not have had to worry about that too much as yet - so far in the series we've had ONE person die of natural causes, and that was under controlled circumstances. Though wifey and I had just that thought when they talked about the old couple on their porch. By this point, whoever was on meds to stay alive should have expired by now, so anyone left of any age should be relatively hardy people.
The ASZ walls looked far more sturdy in the comics, but I think this has to do more with the TV production using an ACTUAL neighborhood for filming and thus being unable to build some really permanent walls. Oddly though, the walls are braced only from the OUTSIDE. A suitably huge herd of walkers would find that wall a lot easier to push up against than one braced the other way. Hint, hint.
Also in the comics, part of the daily life for the ASZ community is expanding the wall do accommodate more territory. Spotters would handle the walkers, and the rest would be digging and erecting. This version seems to be less focused on expansion at this point, though if everyone does have a job, wall-making could be a big part of it.
Mark
The ASZ walls looked far more sturdy in the comics, but I think this has to do more with the TV production using an ACTUAL neighborhood for filming and thus being unable to build some really permanent walls. Oddly though, the walls are braced only from the OUTSIDE. A suitably huge herd of walkers would find that wall a lot easier to push up against than one braced the other way. Hint, hint.
Also in the comics, part of the daily life for the ASZ community is expanding the wall do accommodate more territory. Spotters would handle the walkers, and the rest would be digging and erecting. This version seems to be less focused on expansion at this point, though if everyone does have a job, wall-making could be a big part of it.
Mark
This is pretty cool. Take a virtual walk around the ASZ
http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-walking-dead/alexandria-tour
They say that they'll be adding more to the tour each week after the new episode airs.
http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-walking-dead/alexandria-tour
They say that they'll be adding more to the tour each week after the new episode airs.
Needless to say, their highly boasted walls are crap imho. The prison fence may have been lesser, but the actual prison walls were monumentally better. Plus, the prison fence, though it fell eventually, still had the advantage of allowing for easier handling of walker populations. Alexandria's wall requires elevated positions to deal with growing groups, (Which I've not seen) and the expenditure of munitions, or you actually have to go out there & handle it
The only advantage Alexandria's wall has is that it conceals their community. I think that's what has been their blessing. Nothing living or otherwise knows they're in there......... Yet. Except these twits she exiled. It's fair to start assuming they are wholly inexperienced at dealing with what's become of the world of man. Frankly, Rick's group has now seen the some of the hardest remains of a brutal condition
That's why Rick sounds exasperated when he asked "So you've been behind these walls the entire time?". The vast majority of them don't know squat & aren't prepared at all, & they've woefully underestimated Rick's group, because of a superficial vetting. They saw 8 haggard guys, 6 little women, a boy & a baby, in the worst condition they've ever been & never once considered that apart from a couple of them, that group is a damn roving death squad. The 3 dozen guns should've been a tipoff. I'd put Carl's metal higher than Aiden's, ROTC be damned
That's the best & worst thing our group has going for it. It doesn't look as tough as it actually is, especially now. Carol knows it. That's why she's playing possum. She knows these people have no idea what they've bargained for. If they tip their hand too soon, it will fall apart.
The only advantage Alexandria's wall has is that it conceals their community. I think that's what has been their blessing. Nothing living or otherwise knows they're in there......... Yet. Except these twits she exiled. It's fair to start assuming they are wholly inexperienced at dealing with what's become of the world of man. Frankly, Rick's group has now seen the some of the hardest remains of a brutal condition
That's why Rick sounds exasperated when he asked "So you've been behind these walls the entire time?". The vast majority of them don't know squat & aren't prepared at all, & they've woefully underestimated Rick's group, because of a superficial vetting. They saw 8 haggard guys, 6 little women, a boy & a baby, in the worst condition they've ever been & never once considered that apart from a couple of them, that group is a damn roving death squad. The 3 dozen guns should've been a tipoff. I'd put Carl's metal higher than Aiden's, ROTC be damned
That's the best & worst thing our group has going for it. It doesn't look as tough as it actually is, especially now. Carol knows it. That's why she's playing possum. She knows these people have no idea what they've bargained for. If they tip their hand too soon, it will fall apart.
I'd have to watch it again, but it seemed like the walls we see in this episode weren't what were advertised by Aaron when we first meet him. He first says they're several inches thick made of rolled steel and something-something. But here, it looks like the crap you roof a barn with supported up-right. Did someone flatten the parts to a Quonset hut?
I guess this *may* be a situation where we have to accept what Aaron side is the truth and that the production of the show simply could not cheaply reproduce it, so long as the show stays more or less true to the notion that "nothing alive or dead" is getting through those walls.
Only, despite what we saw, the perimeter fence of prisons is usually pretty robust and the fence at TWD prison didn't really stand up to much.
We saw the brick wall of the gated community Noah lived in was apparently taken down by outside forces. I'm sure whatever did it would make short work of the wall we see around the ASZ. And a good herd of walkers would likely be able to push it down easily (especially since it's braced and supported from the outside, half the work is pretty much already done for them!)
Again, remains to be seen if what we were *told* about this wall happens to be true or if the appearance of the wall is what pans out to be the case.
I guess this *may* be a situation where we have to accept what Aaron side is the truth and that the production of the show simply could not cheaply reproduce it, so long as the show stays more or less true to the notion that "nothing alive or dead" is getting through those walls.
Only, despite what we saw, the perimeter fence of prisons is usually pretty robust and the fence at TWD prison didn't really stand up to much.
We saw the brick wall of the gated community Noah lived in was apparently taken down by outside forces. I'm sure whatever did it would make short work of the wall we see around the ASZ. And a good herd of walkers would likely be able to push it down easily (especially since it's braced and supported from the outside, half the work is pretty much already done for them!)
Again, remains to be seen if what we were *told* about this wall happens to be true or if the appearance of the wall is what pans out to be the case.
You can see the walls pretty clearly in the virtual tour I linked to above. They don't look very secure at all.
They definitely don't appear to be what was described.
As much as I would not want to see the show break expectations with the content of your spoilers, I agree that it would serve to raise the stakes.
The fact the ASZ group do not seem tipped off could be one of a few things at work:
1. Being armed and weary in appearance still gives no indication that they were responsible for eliminating most or all of four violent groups since the start of the ZA.
2. The ASZ group are playing soft--to get Rick's group to expose their intentions (i.e. planning a takeover).
3. The walls being braced from the outside seems like it was intentional--to keep people in with no ease of escape. Probably some other barricades are out of sight, designed to lock people in once the smoke and mirrors of a peaceful town falls apart. This is would work if the bigger threat needs captives for sadistic purposes. There's no other reason to give support to anyone trying to breach the walls.
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They may be a death squad, but I can still see how another group might look at our people and see how, underneath the scary exterior and all the weaponry, they're basically good people who are looking out for each other and have some kind of moral code.
I mean there's the fact they're taking care of a baby for one, not to mention the fact it's a racially diverse group, and there's a reverend among them, and a range of different ages...
This isn't the usual group of hunters or ex-soldier types that we see roaming around causing trouble on this show, and I'm sure Aaron was able to recognize that.
Have any of y'all seen that Walking Dead promo that air during last night Better Call Saul episode? Which show flases of scenes and a scene of a group of people running in formation in a open field heading toward a wooded area, with rifles staped to their backs, which look like Rick and Daryl in the lead.
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