Shatner missing Nimoy's funeral

[kirkfan]

William Shatner tweeted the following:

• I am currently in FL as I agreed to appear at the Red Cross Ball tonight. Leonard's funeral is tomorrow. I can't make it back in time.

• I feel really awful. Here I am doing charity work and one of my dearest friends is being buried.

Sad to hear that he can't make it. I don't want to sound like I'm judging the man but charity work will always be there, you can only say goodbye to your friend once. I think the Red Cross would understand if you cancelled on them.

I believe you don't know what you're talking about. He's honoring the memory of his friend by doing his charity work a great deal more than if he dropped said charity work for personal convenience. The world needs more people like Shatner than it does other people that shall remain alluded to.

 

[JoeZhang]

William Shatner tweeted the following:

• I am currently in FL as I agreed to appear at the Red Cross Ball tonight. Leonard's funeral is tomorrow. I can't make it back in time.

• I feel really awful. Here I am doing charity work and one of my dearest friends is being buried.

Sad to hear that he can't make it. I don't want to sound like I'm judging the man but charity work will always be there, you can only say goodbye to your friend once. I think the Red Cross would understand if you cancelled on them.

But you are - why?

 

[T'Girl]

Shatner can visit Nimoy's resting place at some point in the future, expressing his thoughts, emotions and words concerning Nimoy at that time.










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[enterprisecvn65]

I'd like to think that this is in part similar to David Spade missing Chris Farley's funeral -- Spade couldn't bear to see his best friend in a box, as he put it. He even got as far as the airport but couldn't find himself boarding the plane.

But that's mere conjecture on my part. Yeah, we all have our own ways of grieving, but there were very few friendships that lasted as long as Shatner/Nimoy. They knew each other on a personal level that we can only guess at to this day, and so only they would know far more about each other than perhaps we can expect.

Yeah but a big difference is Spade didn't have a significant past history of seemingly self centered behaviors, so most accepted his comment at face value. Shatner doesn't have that luxury and many will see it as "Self centered asshole Bill again couldn't even make his friends funeral, what did you expect?"

Again I won't judge him for something as personal as this. He's gotta do what he's gotta do. The cold truth though his choice plus his past are going to combine to really make him look bad to many.

The hell? This really is neither the time nor thread to post about passive-aggressive sniping at, well, anyone for the sake of conjecture. What the hell would I or anyone else care about fan reaction about the deeply personal grieving process? You say you won't judge him for something personal like this, but then you turn around and judge a group of people for something that, frankly, is petty and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things (like Nimoy's passing).

If fans want to be bitchy at Shatner, that still has no real bearing on you nor does it bring Nimoy back. There are other things to think about, like his passing and what he meant to all of us. When people are trying to make peace with one's passing, there's no need to prepare for antagonism. Whatever anyone says or judges about Shatner, it's not personal to you, or me, or anyone else on this board except for Shatner.

Back off. I'm just saying some of the ramifications that are going to come of this. In case you can't read I said twice I personally don't think Shatnet is wrong. But a things far less bigger than this have blown up and caused major damage and I think it's not out of line to say this is not going to go over well as unfair as it might be.

Yeah it's upsetting Nimoy is gone, but don't turn this into me badmouthing Shatner personally or it's going to turn ugly in here really fast.

 

[kirkfan]

William Shatner tweeted the following:

• I am currently in FL as I agreed to appear at the Red Cross Ball tonight. Leonard's funeral is tomorrow. I can't make it back in time.

• I feel really awful. Here I am doing charity work and one of my dearest friends is being buried.

Sad to hear that he can't make it. I don't want to sound like I'm judging the man but charity work will always be there, you can only say goodbye to your friend once. I think the Red Cross would understand if you cancelled on them.

But you are - why?

Exactly!!!

 

[Shaka Zulu]

I can't think of a better way to honor Leonard Nimoy's legacy than to devote one's time to helping people in need.

I know. It's just that they seemed to be such close friends, on screen and off, I assumed he would be have been there.

Shatner being there would likely turn the funeral into even more of a media circus. I'm sure he'll say goodbye in his own way.

From what I've heard, the ceremony will be private anyway (although I wish that there would a something like a public ceremony to honor Nimoy's life.)

 

[MarsWeeps]

I believe you don't know what you're talking about. He's honoring the memory of his friend by doing his charity work a great deal more than if he dropped said charity work for personal convenience.

There's that phrase again..."personal convenience."

I don't see how going to a funeral is a "personal convenience." It's not a new car or a new house or even a new coffee maker, it's a sign of respect at the very least.

What time does the charity event end? What time is Leonard's funeral? Would it be possible for him to hop on a private jet after the event in time to make the funeral? I'm sure he has the means. When my Dad was dying, I was able to get an emergency flight in a few hours time and that was commercial airlines.

 

[MarsWeeps]

Mods...probably a good idea to close this thread.

 

[Cyke101]

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what his reason is. It's none of our business.

Let Shatner grieve, in whatever way works for him.

This is the crux of what I'm getting at with my last post. In the end, haters gonna hate, and worrying/getting worked up/getting upset about how people will react is sorely missing the point of how close friends and fans alike grieve one's passing and celebrate that person's life and legacy.

I'll leave it at that. Nimoy had a life with a robust career and stories and memories that could fill an entire library of books. I'm turning on Netflix to continue honoring his legacy.

 

[Sybok Was Wrong]

I'm sure Shatner will have to hear all kinds of criticism from every corner of the universe for this for the rest of his life. But we don't know what's gone on behind the scenes. He may have already said his goodbyes privately. In real life, it happens all the time.

Some of us never get the chance to say goodbye to an old friend, either in person or at a funeral. That's a personal pain that we live with.

Others are uncomfortable at funerals, especially when it hits really close to home.

We make our peace and move on.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what his reason is. It's none of our business.

Exactly.

Shatner & Nimoy may well have been in contact in the last week, and that's the note Shat wants to leave things at.

A funeral might be more than he wants to deal with emotionally, and would rather let positive charity work distract him Sunday.

Its not like he's simply just a no show. Shat rules!

 

[kirkfan]

Mods...probably a good idea to close this thread.

A much better idea would have been not to start it in the first place.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

I'd like to think that this is in part similar to David Spade missing Chris Farley's funeral -- Spade couldn't bear to see his best friend in a box, as he put it. He even got as far as the airport but couldn't find himself boarding the plane.

But that's mere conjecture on my part. Yeah, we all have our own ways of grieving, but there were very few friendships that lasted as long as Shatner/Nimoy. They knew each other on a personal level that we can only guess at to this day, and so only they would know far more about each other than perhaps we can expect.

Yeah but a big difference is Spade didn't have a significant past history of seemingly self centered behaviors, so most accepted his comment at face value. Shatner doesn't have that luxury and many will see it as "Self centered asshole Bill again couldn't even make his friends funeral, what did you expect?"

Again I won't judge him for something as personal as this. He's gotta do what he's gotta do. The cold truth though his choice plus his past are going to combine to really make him look bad to many.

The hell? This really is neither the time nor thread to post about passive-aggressive sniping at, well, anyone for the sake of conjecture. What the hell would I or anyone else care about fan reaction about the deeply personal grieving process? You say you won't judge him for something personal like this, but then you turn around and judge a group of people for something that, frankly, is petty and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things (like Nimoy's passing). It's still cynicism, plain and simple -- whereas Nimoy was one of the least cynical people in Hollywood.

If fans want to be bitchy at Shatner, that still has no real bearing on you nor does it bring Nimoy back, so there's no point in questioning cynicism with more cynicism. There are other things to think about, like his passing and what he meant to all of us. When people are trying to make peace with one's passing, there's no need to prepare for antagonism. Whatever anyone says or judges about Shatner, unless you were a personal friend or relative to him, it's not personal to you, or me, or anyone else on this board except for Shatner.

And in case you didn't notice this is not some passive/aggressive thing or wild conjecture on my part. I guarantee you that, even as you i are sitting here chatting so pleasantly, many people are reading about and their jaws are hitting the floor in disbelief or disgust. Is it fair....no. Do I agree.....no. But I not so blind to see the fallout that's going to happen anyway. Hell people in this thread have already started it. You really think this won't be made a big thing by the media and the public?

If my take on a real consequence of this is "cynical" then I suggest you not read anything Star Trek related for the next 25 years. Because it's going to come up a lot from time to time.

 

[kirkfan]

I'm sure Shatner will have to hear all kinds of criticism from every corner of the universe for this for the rest of his life. But we don't know what's gone on behind the scenes. He may have already said his goodbyes privately. In real life, it happens all the time.

Some of us never get the chance to say goodbye to an old friend, either in person or at a funeral. That's a personal pain that we live with.

Others are uncomfortable at funerals, especially when it hits really close to home.

We make our peace and move on.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what his reason is. It's none of our business.

Exactly.

Shatner & Nimoy may well have been in contact in the last week, and that's the note Shat wants to leave things at.

A funeral might be more than he wants to deal with emotionally, and would rather let positive charity work distract him Sunday.

Its not like he's simply just a no show. Shat rules!

Amen!

 

[MarsWeeps]

Mods...probably a good idea to close this thread.

A much better idea would have been not to start it in the first place.

True...can you please pass on your secret to perfection?

 

[kirkfan]

Mods...probably a good idea to close this thread.

A much better idea would have been not to start it in the first place.

True...can you please pass on your secret to perfection?

Believe me. I am a model of restraint now.

 

[Misfit Toy]

Closing at the request of the OP