What was your favorite TOS film?

[osama]

I actually thought Final Frontier was better.

 

[Vger23]

I actually thought Final Frontier was better.

Than TMP? I can see that. I actually love both films. I'm contrarian in that I believe TMP, TSFS, and TFF are all more entertaining and interesting (and true to Star Trek) than TVH and TUC.

 

[fonzob1]

I actually thought Final Frontier was better.

Agreed. Both were bad films. Can't believe TMP is ahead of TUC.

 

[Ssosmcin]

The Search for Spock, for all of the reasons already mentioned, plus the absolutely amazing musical score by James Horner. So beautiful.

The reason for Spock's body being needed was lost in the final editing. Originally, the Grissom finding Spock's coffin was immediately after the credits and we see the Enterprise afterward. Kirk's log originally referenced "the news of Spock's tube has shaken me." So, Kirk and everyone with access to his logs (which would include Sarek presumably) would know that Spock's body was there. Grissom did report it, but with the closeness of that discovery preceding "absent friends" obscures how much time passed for Sarek and Kirk to find out about it.

Every Star Trek film has huge plot holes. Your tolerance of them (or lack thereof) depends on how you feel about the films themselves. If you favorite film is TFF, you let the "center of the galaxy" stuff pass by. If you hated TWOK, you really harp on Ceti Alpha V and VI being confused. Since I don't hate any Star Trek film, they all get plot hole passes by me.

But TSFS was just lovely. I couldn't get enough of it during the summer of 1984.

 

[Vger23]

The Search for Spock, for all of the reasons already mentioned, plus the absolutely amazing musical score by James Horner. So beautiful.

The reason for Spock's body being needed was lost in the final editing. Originally, the Grissom finding Spock's coffin was immediately after the credits and we see the Enterprise afterward. Kirk's log originally referenced "the news of Spock's tube has shaken me." So, Kirk and everyone with access to his logs (which would include Sarek presumably) would know that Spock's body was there. Grissom did report it, but with the closeness of that discovery preceding "absent friends" obscures how much time passed for Sarek and Kirk to find out about it.

Every Star Trek film has huge plot holes. Your tolerance of them (or lack thereof) depends on how you feel about the films themselves. If you favorite film is TFF, you let the "center of the galaxy" stuff pass by. If you hated TWOK, you really harp on Ceti Alpha V and VI being confused. Since I don't hate any Star Trek film, they all get plot hole passes by me.

But TSFS was just lovely. I couldn't get enough of it during the summer of 1984.

Great post. Bravo!

 

[Amaris]

It depends upon my mood, but usually I'll pick The Voyage Home as my favorite of the original six films. That said, there's a lot of good to be said about The Motion Picture as well.

 

[Vger23]

I love this thread so much, because, for the most part, it is positive and diverse. Lots of people talking about the merits and enjoyable parts of each of the film's just reminds me of how good a movie series this really is...despite the flaws we all tend to dwell on from time to time.

It makes me want to go back and watch each movie again through a different set of eyes.

 

[fonzob1]

That said, there's a lot of good to be said about The Motion Picture as well.

Except for the fact that Stephen Collins had a really hard time getting dates after shooting that film.

 

[martok2112]

The Search for Spock, for all of the reasons already mentioned, plus the absolutely amazing musical score by James Horner. So beautiful.

The reason for Spock's body being needed was lost in the final editing. Originally, the Grissom finding Spock's coffin was immediately after the credits and we see the Enterprise afterward. Kirk's log originally referenced "the news of Spock's tube has shaken me." So, Kirk and everyone with access to his logs (which would include Sarek presumably) would know that Spock's body was there. Grissom did report it, but with the closeness of that discovery preceding "absent friends" obscures how much time passed for Sarek and Kirk to find out about it.

Every Star Trek film has huge plot holes. Your tolerance of them (or lack thereof) depends on how you feel about the films themselves. If you favorite film is TFF, you let the "center of the galaxy" stuff pass by. If you hated TWOK, you really harp on Ceti Alpha V and VI being confused. Since I don't hate any Star Trek film, they all get plot hole passes by me.

But TSFS was just lovely. I couldn't get enough of it during the summer of 1984.

Well told!

 

[martok2112]

SAREK: One alive, one not...yet both in pain.
KIRK: What must I do?
SAREK: You must bring them to Mt. Seleya on Vulcan. Only there can both find peace.

This request implies that Kirk must bring the alive McCoy, who harbors the Katra, and the "dead" Spock to Vulcan. Kirk even says "what you ask is difficult," and certainly brining McCoy to Vulcan would not be viewed as such.

For whatever reason, what the Vulcans had planned required Spock's body and soul- even if they were both separate at the time. It may not make sense when reflected upon, but it's clearly consistent within the context of the film.

To support the spirit of Sarek's request a little further:

SAREK: I ask for Fal Tor Pan; the refusion.
T'LAR: What you ask has not been done since ages past. And then, only in legend. Thy request is not logical.
SAREK: Forgive me, T'Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned.

What a great bit of dialogue.

 

[SPCTRE]

1. TUC
2. TWOK
3. TMP
4. TSFS
5. TVH
6. TFF

 

[Vger23]

SAREK: One alive, one not...yet both in pain.
KIRK: What must I do?
SAREK: You must bring them to Mt. Seleya on Vulcan. Only there can both find peace.

This request implies that Kirk must bring the alive McCoy, who harbors the Katra, and the "dead" Spock to Vulcan. Kirk even says "what you ask is difficult," and certainly brining McCoy to Vulcan would not be viewed as such.

For whatever reason, what the Vulcans had planned required Spock's body and soul- even if they were both separate at the time. It may not make sense when reflected upon, but it's clearly consistent within the context of the film.

To support the spirit of Sarek's request a little further:

SAREK: I ask for Fal Tor Pan; the refusion.
T'LAR: What you ask has not been done since ages past. And then, only in legend. Thy request is not logical.
SAREK: Forgive me, T'Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned.

What a great bit of dialogue.

That last line, about "uncertain logic" is awesome. It reminds me of "I married her because I love her" in the 2009 film. Powerful stuff considering the character saying it.

 

[martok2112]

SAREK: One alive, one not...yet both in pain.
KIRK: What must I do?
SAREK: You must bring them to Mt. Seleya on Vulcan. Only there can both find peace.

This request implies that Kirk must bring the alive McCoy, who harbors the Katra, and the "dead" Spock to Vulcan. Kirk even says "what you ask is difficult," and certainly brining McCoy to Vulcan would not be viewed as such.

For whatever reason, what the Vulcans had planned required Spock's body and soul- even if they were both separate at the time. It may not make sense when reflected upon, but it's clearly consistent within the context of the film.

To support the spirit of Sarek's request a little further:

SAREK: I ask for Fal Tor Pan; the refusion.
T'LAR: What you ask has not been done since ages past. And then, only in legend. Thy request is not logical.
SAREK: Forgive me, T'Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned.

What a great bit of dialogue.

That last line, about "uncertain logic" is awesome. It reminds me of "I married her because I love her" in the 2009 film. Powerful stuff considering the character saying it.

Indeed. I've always felt TSFS was a beautiful movie in terms of heart, and Sarek was a big part of the heartbeat.

 

[Vger23]

I also love the "at what cost" dialogue between Sarek and Kirk. Shatner's delivery of "if I hadn't tried, the cost would have been my soul" is such a huge moment in Star Trek and is perfectly conveyed.

 

[EnriqueH]

The Search for Spock, for all of the reasons already mentioned, plus the absolutely amazing musical score by James Horner. So beautiful.

The reason for Spock's body being needed was lost in the final editing. Originally, the Grissom finding Spock's coffin was immediately after the credits and we see the Enterprise afterward. Kirk's log originally referenced "the news of Spock's tube has shaken me." So, Kirk and everyone with access to his logs (which would include Sarek presumably) would know that Spock's body was there. Grissom did report it, but with the closeness of that discovery preceding "absent friends" obscures how much time passed for Sarek and Kirk to find out about it.

Every Star Trek film has huge plot holes. Your tolerance of them (or lack thereof) depends on how you feel about the films themselves. If you favorite film is TFF, you let the "center of the galaxy" stuff pass by. If you hated TWOK, you really harp on Ceti Alpha V and VI being confused. Since I don't hate any Star Trek film, they all get plot hole passes by me.

But TSFS was just lovely. I couldn't get enough of it during the summer of 1984.

Nicely said. TSFS was my original "favorite Trek movie" but then TVH kinda overtook it, but they're pretty much tie for me. (I did vote TVH).

TUC is towards the bottom for me. I felt like it lacked a fun factor because it was too wrapped up in sentimentality and dreariness. The whole movie was hung over with too much Romulan Ale.

Buuuuut, I still like it.

THRILLED to see all the TMP love! The OP must've shot himself!

 

[kirkfan]

The Search for Spock, for all of the reasons already mentioned, plus the absolutely amazing musical score by James Horner. So beautiful.

The reason for Spock's body being needed was lost in the final editing. Originally, the Grissom finding Spock's coffin was immediately after the credits and we see the Enterprise afterward. Kirk's log originally referenced "the news of Spock's tube has shaken me." So, Kirk and everyone with access to his logs (which would include Sarek presumably) would know that Spock's body was there. Grissom did report it, but with the closeness of that discovery preceding "absent friends" obscures how much time passed for Sarek and Kirk to find out about it.

Every Star Trek film has huge plot holes. Your tolerance of them (or lack thereof) depends on how you feel about the films themselves. If you favorite film is TFF, you let the "center of the galaxy" stuff pass by. If you hated TWOK, you really harp on Ceti Alpha V and VI being confused. Since I don't hate any Star Trek film, they all get plot hole passes by me.

But TSFS was just lovely. I couldn't get enough of it during the summer of 1984.

Nicely said. TSFS was my original "favorite Trek movie" but then TVH kinda overtook it, but they're pretty much tie for me. (I did vote TVH).

TUC is towards the bottom for me. I felt like it lacked a fun factor because it was too wrapped up in sentimentality and dreariness. The whole movie was hung over with too much Romulan Ale.

Buuuuut, I still like it.

THRILLED to see all the TMP love! The OP must've shot himself!

The movie or the ale?

 

[fonzob1]

THRILLED to see all the TMP love! The OP must've shot himself!

Not yet...

 

[eyeresist]

Robert Fletchers designs for all of the Vulcan wardrobe was finely detailed and exotic.

Whatever the virtues of TSFS, I can't agree on this point as I found the Vulcan costumes ridiculous. Crystal horns, anyone?

I am listening to the TSFS soundtrack right now - God bless youtube!

 

[Amaris]

That said, there's a lot of good to be said about The Motion Picture as well.

Except for the fact that Stephen Collins had a really hard time getting dates after shooting that film.

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of those costumes for obvious reasons.

 

[Vger23]

That said, there's a lot of good to be said about The Motion Picture as well.

Except for the fact that Stephen Collins had a really hard time getting dates after shooting that film.

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of those costumes for obvious reasons.

Why not??

"The Decker-unit can assist you with much greater efficiency"