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Gotham - Season 1

Then they may force the producers to wind the violence but more so the gore back a bit.

I'd prefer encouragement to force, but I would like to see the gore dialed down. I think maybe they're trying too hard to compete with the graphic shows on pay cable.
 
It's not just pay cable these days. I've been amazed how gory shows like Bones can get.
 
*sigh* What's the point of having those nice gates at Wayne Manor if Alfred's going to open the door to every criminal who comes along?

He's turning into the stupid white girl in the horror movies.
 
*sigh* I find it so frustrating that the standards for showing gore on TV have relaxed so much while the standards for showing nudity have hardly changed in decades. Why do we find it more objectionable to show a human body uncovered than to show it torn apart? That's extraordinarily backward, if you ask me.
 
It's not just pay cable these days. I've been amazed how gory shows like Bones can get.

Hannibal is very very gory. I've seen less blood on most episodes of Dexter and that aired on cable than I've seen on Hannibal weekly.

Haven't seen Hannibal but I'd throw Supernatural into the mix.

*sigh* I find it so frustrating that the standards for showing gore on TV have relaxed so much while the standards for showing nudity have hardly changed in decades. Why do we find it more objectionable to show a human body uncovered than to show it torn apart? That's extraordinarily backward, if you ask me.

My standard quip is because we live in a country formed by people who found religion was not strict enough where they came from.
 
*sigh* I find it so frustrating that the standards for showing gore on TV have relaxed so much while the standards for showing nudity have hardly changed in decades. Why do we find it more objectionable to show a human body uncovered than to show it torn apart? That's extraordinarily backward, if you ask me.

My standard quip is because we live in a country formed by people who found religion was not strict enough where they came from.

That's basically true of the Puritans, but in fact they were a lot more sexually open than we tend to think. They believed sex should be restricted to marriage, sure, but they rejected the medieval Catholic notion that marital sex was a necessary evil for procreation, and instead saw sex within marriage as an entirely positive and healthy thing. They even excommunicated people who didn't have enough sex with their spouses.

Also, while the early settlers were mostly Puritans, the actual founders of the United States -- Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, and the like -- were mostly Deists who were quite skeptical toward religion and made a point of establishing a secular, rationally-based nation that had no state religion of any kind. They would've been bewildered by the assertions of certain modern pundits that they intended America to be a Christian nation.
 
Sex is an imitable action. Brutally murdering someone is not.

There are lots of censors and TV-content activists who disagree. There's a reason kids' cartoons don't show people throwing punches or shooting people with realistic-looking guns.

Besides, I'm talking about nudity, not necessarily sex. Is taking off your clothes an imitable action? It's something we all do every day anyway, assuming we bathe regularly, so what's to imitate?
 
Well, you'd have to get that knife apparatus thing from SEVEN. You'd have to get a specialist to design it or something. Or have a really nice 3D printer.

Either way, not an easily imitable action. If there's one thing horny teenagers are, it's lazy.
 
Or you could just poison a few condoms.

It is quite alarming for some to discover that they have a latex allergy during their first sexual encounter but it happens.
 
It's not just pay cable these days. I've been amazed how gory shows like Bones can get.

Hannibal is very very gory. I've seen less blood on most episodes of Dexter and that aired on cable than I've seen on Hannibal weekly.
I forgot about Hannibal. I've been watching it on Amazon Prime for the last few months, and I've been amazed what they show on it.
One thing I find kind of ironic on the show is the fact that in the episodes with the guy skewering the naked women on the antlers, they used the antlers to cover their bear breasts. So it was OK for them to show people graphically skewered, but not women's breasts.
 
One thing I find kind of ironic on the show is the fact that in the episodes with the guy skewering the naked women on the antlers, they used the antlers to cover their bear breasts. So it was OK for them to show people graphically skewered, but not women's breasts.

Yeah... if they were going to hide one or the other, I'd prefer they went the other way. We have the most screwed-up taboos in this culture.
 
Well at least women are allowed to act now.

Imagine if they'd never amended that?

How happy the gays would be that all movies are gay movies and all porn is gay porn.
 
Too stupid to be handsome?

The Tara Reid Division.

Woah woah WOAH! I never said that! :lol:

But "we" might want to do a review of how "we" are protecting "our" kid. Perhaps an intercom system like they have out in LA?

I mean, I have no idea how stringent the SAS's standards are, but I'm imagine at some point they might have had a module on "Don't just open the door to anybody," or "Always carry a gun into the library."
 
*sigh* I find it so frustrating that the standards for showing gore on TV have relaxed so much while the standards for showing nudity have hardly changed in decades. Why do we find it more objectionable to show a human body uncovered than to show it torn apart? That's extraordinarily backward, if you ask me.

I don't know. Maybe networks shows are lagging behind, but there's way more nudity on TV than just a few years ago, let alone decades, and not just on the premium channels. Cable shows like THE AMERICANS or AMERICAN HORROR STORY or THE STRAIN or even ASCENSION on Syfy get away with levels of nudity that would have never flown just a few years ago. Things are loosening up. (I mean, seriously, would you have ever expected nudity on Syfy even just a few years back?)

Plus, as we were discussing in another thread the other day, TCM routinely runs movies uncut, whereas once TV would've snipped or blurred scenes in certain old movies. And TCM is basic cable, too, and doesn't always bother with advisories first. (They ran an old Hammer horror movie, complete with full-frontal nudity, just a few months ago, albeit in the wee hours of the morning.)

Meanwhile, back on GOTHAM, note that Ivy was listening intently to Barbara's whole "Beauty is a weapon" spiel. The message may have been intended for Selina, but Ivy was one taking notes . . . .
 
I don't know. Maybe networks shows are lagging behind, but there's way more nudity on TV than just a few years ago, let alone decades, and not just on the premium channels. Cable shows like THE AMERICANS or AMERICAN HORROR STORY or THE STRAIN or even ASCENSION on Syfy get away with levels of nudity that would have never flown just a few years ago. Things are loosening up. (I mean, seriously, would you have ever expected nudity on Syfy even just a few years back?)

They've become fairly comfortable with the human butt. Though there was always a little acceptance for male butts if it was played for laughs. It makes for interesting moments like those "Naked and Afraid" or "Dating Naked" and so on shows where the butts are unblurred but everything else isn't.

As someone who has watched too much TV over the years the swing is interesting. Like A&E, USA, and BBC America had nudity when they started but don't anymore. The word "ass" went from censored to being so common they could use it in movie titles and commercials. Comedy Central allows the F-word and beyond late night but still blurs butts and breasts.
 
I don't know. Maybe networks shows are lagging behind, but there's way more nudity on TV than just a few years ago, let alone decades, and not just on the premium channels. Cable shows like THE AMERICANS or AMERICAN HORROR STORY or THE STRAIN or even ASCENSION on Syfy get away with levels of nudity that would have never flown just a few years ago. Things are loosening up.

But they'll still go to extraordinary lengths to avoid acknowledging that women have nipples. Until they can be as matter-of-fact about showing a woman's bare chest as they are about showing a man's, then things haven't really changed that much.
 
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