Saratoga bridge at beginning of The Voyage Home

[Timo]

Yeah. It's clear why the CRTs would be needed on the Grissom: their graphics furthered the drama by showing Spock's coffin, and this needed as much graphic oomph as possible. CRTs gave the necessary flexibility, even though later Trek productions would have come up with cheaper and more effective solutions.

Were the scorch marks on the "Enterprise" set the same between ST2 and ST3? Or were these elements routinely spray-painted several times during the production of any given movie, and "battle damage" (re-)applied only when necessary?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Therin of Andor]

I think the novel has the St VI character as Deltan, despite clearly having a lot of hair, and we see male Deltans in TVH anyway which are more consistent with Illia's bald look.

Yes, Vonda McIntyre, working from only the script and some stills, made one of her Saratoga bridge characters Deltan (but not the same bridge position), in the absence of other information, and used the same Deltan naming patterns as she had used in ST II and ST III. Thus Efrosians and Deltans became intertwined.

McIntyre's Jedda (ST II) was Deltan, also as per the script, and I guess she felt the need to explore male-Deltans-with-hair in ST IV to explain Jedda's onscreen appearance in ST II. Another McInytre Deltan male, an original character, has long rose-coloured hair.
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com.au/2006/11/truth-about-efrosians-pard_116269248336471480.html

 

[Basill]

I totally agree with "nightshift" interpretation. It was almost a certainly a means of ship distinction by invoking the "mood lighting scenario," especially since only the fewest paint jobs and modifications were needed for the earlier starship scenes: Saratoga/Yorktown/ and the Shepard. The Shepard's bridge was seen (but not mentioned by name) in the HQ background with Jane Wiedlin (of The Go-Go's) as an extra, transmitting her ship's distress logs to Starfleet. Dialog from those logs is supposedly in the script.

Enterprise A's revamp had to (most likely) have happened after all those earlier ship scenes were filmed, since they replaced every (or nearly every) station on the bridge, monitor and console surface, with the new Okudagram gel plates for backlighting. As easy as it is to paint something time and again, Enterprise A's refurbishment was probably a no-turn back decision as all those beautiful, physical, blinky buttons and their console housings were removed, and many probably didn't survive the affair altogether unscathed.

 

[Leto_II]

I totally agree with "nightshift" interpretation. It was almost a certainly a means of ship distinction by invoking the "mood lighting scenario," especially since only the fewest paint jobs and modifications were needed for the earlier starship scenes: Saratoga/Yorktown/ and the Shepard. The Shepard's bridge was seen (but not mentioned by name) in the HQ background with Jane Wiedlin (of The Go-Go's) as an extra, transmitting her ship's distress logs to Starfleet. Dialog from those logs is supposedly in the script.

You can actually make out most of Wiedlin's dialogue pretty well in both the Blu-Ray and DVD releases' sound mixes, something I never could do on the old VHS tape editions.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I totally agree with "nightshift" interpretation. It was almost a certainly a means of ship distinction by invoking the "mood lighting scenario," especially since only the fewest paint jobs and modifications were needed for the earlier starship scenes: Saratoga/Yorktown/ and the Shepard. The Shepard's bridge was seen (but not mentioned by name) in the HQ background with Jane Wiedlin (of The Go-Go's) as an extra, transmitting her ship's distress logs to Starfleet. Dialog from those logs is supposedly in the script.

You can actually make out most of Wiedlin's dialogue pretty well in both the Blu-Ray and DVD releases' sound mixes, something I never could do on the old VHS tape editions.

Jane Wiedlin's dialogue was audible in the theater (sorry, I couldn't tell you what the sound mix was).

 

[Therin of Andor]

The Shepard's bridge was seen (but not mentioned by name) in the HQ background with Jane Wiedlin (of The Go-Go's) as an extra, transmitting her ship's distress logs to Starfleet. Dialog from those logs is supposedly in the script.

It is mentioned by name in the script. See Appendices at the end of the online transcript:
http://www.st-minutiae.com/academy/literature329/tvh.txt

"Starfleet Command, this is communications officer Trillya of the U.S.S. Shepard reporting on emergency status code zero one nine five. Our condition remains the same, the probe has neutralized all power supplies and we are functioning on reserves only. All attempts to reinstate main power have failed. Captain Clampett has quarantined all but minimal support crew due to failure of Bio-Sterilization capsules containing Vegan D virus, which has already killed fifteen crew members. All aboard are believed to be infected. Atmospheric regeneration and reclamation systems are not functional, and all medical supplies are spoiling due to refrigeration shut down. At present condition life support systems will be exhausted within eight hours. Starfleet, please advise...?"

 

[Nebusj]

I totally agree with "nightshift" interpretation. It was almost a certainly a means of ship distinction by invoking the "mood lighting scenario," especially since only the fewest paint jobs and modifications were needed for the earlier starship scenes: Saratoga/Yorktown/ and the Shepard. The Shepard's bridge was seen (but not mentioned by name) in the HQ background with Jane Wiedlin (of The Go-Go's) as an extra, transmitting her ship's distress logs to Starfleet. Dialog from those logs is supposedly in the script.

You can actually make out most of Wiedlin's dialogue pretty well in both the Blu-Ray and DVD releases' sound mixes, something I never could do on the old VHS tape editions.

Jane Wiedlin's dialogue was audible in the theater (sorry, I couldn't tell you what the sound mix was).

... Wait, Jane Wiedlin like of ... well, the Go-Gos, and from the ``Cool Places'' and ``Lucky Me, Lucky You'' songs on Sparks In Outer Space?

That's the oddest bit of movie trivia I've run across in ages.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

... Wait, Jane Wiedlin like of ... well, the Go-Gos, and from the ``Cool Places'' and ``Lucky Me, Lucky You'' songs on Sparks In Outer Space?

My lips are sealed.

 

[Therin of Andor]

... Wait, Jane Wiedlin like of ... well, the Go-Gos, and from the ``Cool Places'' and ``Lucky Me, Lucky You'' songs on Sparks In Outer Space?

Of course but, at the time of ST IV, I only knew her from an absolutely hilarious cameo as Singing Telegram Girl in the movie version of "Clue", the murder mystery board game.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005553/

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

My lips are sealed.

No no no, it's "Alex the Seal"! Get your mondegreens straight.

(You will never hear that song WITHOUT that phrase ever again.)