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San Francisco Air Quality

Lakenheath 72

Lakenheath 72

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For those who know a little something about air quality, I have a question. What is causing the phenomena that is seen in the alternate reality San Francisco? When the sky isn't blue, it takes on a strange color.

I am talking about a shot like this.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/xihd/trekxihd0959.jpg

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Or in this video, at 32 seconds in, where we see a female news presenter. The Golden Gate Bridge is behind her.

The air quality in San Francisco is phenomal now. It should be even more so in the positive future of Star Trek. Instead, we have this haze.

(For the moderators, I am aware that the image is rather large. However, this seems to be the default setting. If it can be sized down, that would be great. :))
 
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Looks like typical British weather to me. Here's what future-SF looks like on a nicer day:
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_36xOkTZb0[/YT]
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eum9csdBHrc[/YT]
 
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The "haze" is nothing more than fog. Typical every day fog is quite common in San Francisco, and according to the novels continues on into the 24th century.
 
Those are borg nanites in the air I believe. They were sent back in time from the prime universe to slowly assimilate everyone that breathes them.
 
Lakenheath 72 said:
For those who know a little something about air quality, I have a question. What is causing the phenomena that is seen in the alternate reality San Francisco? When the sky isn't blue, it takes on a strange color.

I am talking about a shot like this.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/xihd/trekxihd0959.jpg

[Converted to link. Please don't hotlink images from TrekCore or any other website which is not yours. - M']

Or in this video, at 32 seconds in, where we see a female news presenter. The Golden Gate Bridge is behind her.
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Your video seems to be missing.

Lakenheath 72 said:
The air quality in San Francisco is phenomal now. It should be even more so in the positive future of Star Trek. Instead, we have this haze.
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Speaking as someone who spent a number of years living in and around San Francisco, the air in the screencap looks much like it usually does in the city. That's not smog or any sort of air-quality issue. It's just moisture - overnight and early-morning fog, in the process of burning off as it's warmed by the rising sun (or gradually building in the late afternoon and evening, as the sun goes down,) the same way it does in most parts of the city 300-plus days every year.

Lakenheath 72 said:
(For the moderators, I am aware that the image is rather large. However, this seems to be the default setting. If it can be sized down, that would be great. :))
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About that: most free image-sharing services such as Photobucket, Instagram and the like include an image editor at no cost which would allow you to resize and do other manipulations.

For the meantime, this isn't the same screencap you had posted above, but it's part of the same sequence and it's one I happened to have on hand:

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Some image-sharing services also allow you to share a large image behind a thumbnail:

 
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The VFX artists missed an opportunity on that one: if that's moisture in the air (it's even a Hollywood cliche that San Francisco Bay is always covered in fog when the dramatic mood calls for it), then objects moving rapidly through it might create interesting condensation/vaporization trails and vortices...

Timo Saloniemi
 
It's super frequently foggy here, especially between July and September. The one thing that smacks fake in that shot is the color of the bridge, which wouldn't be that desaturated at that range. Trust me. :)
 
As another Bay Area native, I find nothing unusual with that fog. California may have the reputation for near-non-stop sunshine, (and we're certainly getting plenty, thanks to the drought) but very often a bay area morning starts with a layer of fog, burning off by late morning or early afternoon.
 
I was only in the Bay Area two years. The screenshot in question looks like normal fog in the city to me.
 
I have a feeling this was intended as an underhanded slap at the Abrams films. All that "smog" in the 23rd century when Roddenberry said Earth was a paradise.
 
Maurice said:
It's super frequently foggy here, especially between July and September. The one thing that smacks fake in that shot is the color of the bridge, which wouldn't be that desaturated at that range. Trust me. :)
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IIRC, from the ST'09 BR extras, the shot in question is an aerial shot of current-day SF with CG buildings added (unlike ID, where most SF distance shots were pure CG)
 
I'd join the echo and say it's just a light fog. The one and only morning I spend in SF it was foggy. Though it lifted as the morning went on.
 
As a former resident of the San Francisco Bay Area, I will add my voice to the chorus saying, "looks normal to me".
 
The Wormhole said:
The "haze" is nothing more than fog. Typical every day fog is quite common in San Francisco, and according to the novels continues on into the 24th century.
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``The 23rd Century was such a primitive time,'' said Doctor NuCrusher. ``Before we understood the nature of fog.''
 
BillJ said:
I have a feeling this was intended as an underhanded slap at the Abrams films. All that "smog" in the 23rd century when Roddenberry said Earth was a paradise.
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If that's truly the case, then this topic has my vote for Silliest Nitpick of a NuTrek Film.
 
King Daniel Into Darkness said:
Maurice said:
It's super frequently foggy here, especially between July and September. The one thing that smacks fake in that shot is the color of the bridge, which wouldn't be that desaturated at that range. Trust me. :)
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IIRC, from the ST'09 BR extras, the shot in question is an aerial shot of current-day SF with CG buildings added (unlike ID, where most SF distance shots were pure CG)
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That doesn't mean they didn't desatarate it. :)
 
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