Birthdays of the Voyager crew-a suggestion

[Lynx]

For some reason, I decided to do something constructive today.

A while ago, I read a thread where Janeway's year of birth was discussed.

So after some thinking, I decided to come up with a suggestion for all the characters birthdays so that you all know when it's time to bake a cake, light some candles, hang up a picture of the birthday crew member, raise a toast and sing "Happy Birthday To You" in your most sweet and respectful voice.

With the help of Memory Alpha, Memory Beta, some Voyager books, my own Voyager Timeline (which can be found at the Kes Website) a Stardate Calculator and my own imagination, I have made this suggestion for official Voyager birthday celebrations.

Here we go:

Kathryn Janeway: Born 20 May 2335 (Stardate 12383.22)

Comment: According to Memory Alpha and Memory Beta, Janeway's birthday is 20 May. But no official year of birth is
to find anywhere. The most realistic year of birth seems to be 2335 which will make the character's age the same as Kathryn Mulgrew's when Voyager started. It will also fit into the scenario in the book "Pathways" in which Janeway met William Riker at Starfleet Academy during her first year there.

Chakotay: Born 19 November 2329 (Stardate 06884.75)

Comment: According to Memory Alpha and Memory Beta Chakotay was born in 2329. The day and month of birth is the same as actor Robert Beltran.

Tom Paris: Born 9 November 2346 (Stardate 23855.06)

Comment: According to Memory Beta, Tom Paris was born in 2346. The day and month of birth is the same as actor Robert Duncan McNeill.

B'Elanna Torres: Born 11 September 2346 (Stardate 23693.37

Comment: According to Memory Alpha, Torres was born in 2349, however Memory Beta states her year of birth to 2346. After some consideration, I've decided to go with Memory Beta on this one.
The day and month of birth is the same as actress Roxann Dawson.

Tuvok: Born 22 June 2264 (Stardate -59472.67, old stardate system 38774)

Comment: Memory Alpha and Memory Beta states Tuvok's year of birth to 2264. Memory Beta states that Tuvok was born
at stardate 38774. That must refer to the old stardate system used before 2323, otherwise Tuvok would be born in 2361 which is far from the truth. With the systems for stardates used since 2323, Tuvok would be born at stardate -59472.67 which is 22 June 2264. The day and month of birth is the same as actor Tim Russ.

Kes: Born 17 December 2369 (Stardate 46959.2)

Comment: Kes's birthday is celebrated in the season 1 episode "Twisted". Since the episode takes place in 2371, Kes's year of birth is 2369 which is also stated at Memory Alpha and Memory Beta. "Twisted" has no official stardate but since the episode takes place between "Elogium" (stardate 48921.3 = Friday 3 December 2371) and "The 37's (stardate 48975.1 = Wednesday 22 December 2371), I took the liberty to pick 17 December as Kes's birthday.

Neelix: Born 8 February 2337 (Stardate 14104.14)

Comment: According to Memory Beta, Neelix was born in 2337. The day and month of birth is the same as actor Ethan Phillips.

Harry Kim: Born 21 January 2349 (Stardate 26054.81)

Comment: In the book "The Black Shore", Harry Kim mention that it is his birthday. Since the events in "The Black Shore" takes place shortly after Voyager has left Kazon space and after the events in te episode "Basics, part 2", I took the liberty to pick a date between the date for Basics, part 2 (stardate 50037.2 = Sunday 14 January) and the events in "Sacred Ground" (stardate 50063.2 = Wednesday 24 January) which in this case would be 21 January.

The Doctor: Activated 23 April 2371 (Stardate 48308.2)

Comment: According to Memory Alpha and Memory Beta, The Doctor (also known as Lewis Shmullus Zimmerman) was activated at stardate 48308.2 = Friday 23 April 2371, three days before the official stardate for the episode "Caretaker" which is 48315.6 = Monday 26 April 2371, the day when the crew was beamed back to Voyager from the Caretaker's array and Janeway noted it in the ship's log.

Seven Of Nine: Born 24 June 2348 (Stardate 25479.5)

Comment: According to Memory Alpha, Seven Of Nine (or Annika Hansen) was born at stardate 25479 which according to
my Stardate Calculator is 24 June 2348. However, Memory Alpha states her year of birth to 2350 while Memory Beta
states her year of birth to 2348. I prefer to go with Memory Beta here since my Stardate Calculator states stardate 25479 as 24 june 2348.

And here are some other Voyager charaters:

Joe Carey: Born 15 August 2338 (Stardate 15622.11)

Comment: According to Memory Beta, Joe Carey was born in 2338. The day and month of birth is the same as actor Josh Clark.

Samantha Wildman: Born 5 May 2347 (Stardate 24356.27)

Comment: According to memory Beta, Samantha Wildman was born in 2347. The day and year of birth is the same as actress Nancy Hower.

Naomi Wildman: Born 19 July 2372 (Stardate 49548.7)

Comment: Naomi Wildman was born in the episode "Deadlock" which takes place at stardate 49548.7 which according to my calculations is Wednesday 19 July 2372.

 

[hux]

Harry Kim and B'Ellana are the same age!

Is that right?

Also, in my mind Voyager is set in 2371 (around eye of a needle) so Janeway would only be 35/6

She seems way older than that

 

[Lynx]

Harry Kim and B'Ellana are the same age!

Is that right?

Also, in my mind Voyager is set in 2371 (around eye of a needle) so Janeway would only be 35/6

She seems way older than that

I have to give you a point here, especially when it comes to B'Elannas and Kim's age.

So I've decided to go with Memory Beta here and change B'Elanna's year of birth to 2346. As you can see, I've changed the OP too.

As for Janeway, I'm not sure. I don't think she looks that old in season 1. I can imagine her being 35, celebrating her 36th birthday on the ship somewhere between "Caretaker" and "Parallax".

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think this is excellent Lynx and I think we need to have a huge party on this forum for every birthday.

 

[Catarina]

Janeway's bday has been discussed. It is different depending on the source. (Year)

 

[hux]

I have to give you a point here, especially when it comes to B'Elannas and Kim's age.

So I've decided to go with Memory Beta here and change B'Elanna's year of birth to 2346. As you can see, I've changed the OP.

25 still seems young for B'Ellana. I guess it's possible, she just seemed older and more mature (at least 30+) Paris likewise

Maybe it's cos I'm so immature and I just assume everyone else is much older

There should be threads started to celebrate each birthday

Without doing any research whatsoever, I would say:

Janeway - 41
Chakotay - 43
Paris - 34
B'Elanna - 31
Kim - 21
Neelix - 46
Seven - 28
Carey - 43

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Nice research. The only one I knew was Janeway. How do you convert normal dates to stardates?

 

[Orphalesion]

B'Elanna Torres: Born 11 September 2346 (Stardate 23693.37

Comment: According to Memory Alpha, Torres was born in 2349, however Memory Beta states her year of birth to 2346. After some consideration, I've decided to go with Memory Beta on this one.
The day and month of birth is the same as actress Roxann Dawson.

Ha! Cool, B'Elanna and Roxann Dawson have the same birthday as my sister.

 

[Lynx]

Nice research. The only one I knew was Janeway. How do you convert normal dates to stardates?

I found one when I did the Voyager Timeline (which can be viewed at the Kes Website) a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, the site with the Stardate Calculator doesn't seem to exist anymore.

But this one is also a good Stardate Calculator:http://stevepugh.net/fleet/stardate.html

 

[Hando]

About Harry Kim,
as you say he mentioned that it is his birthday in "The Black Shore",
but this novels starts with a stardate 491750.0, so his birthday should be on:
5 March 2349.

About Kes,
I have Twisted noted with stardate 48945.8, not sure of my source (probably VHS or Star Charts), so her birthday should be on:
12 December 2369.

 

[Melakon]

Kate Mulgrew was 39 when she did "Caretaker".

 

[Jeri]

Great idea, Lynx! Thank you!

Can you dig up any Libra birthdays...? We are missing a Libra.

 

[Hando]

I have done some calculations on Tuvok,

based on the stardates of "No Time Like the Past" and "Live Fast and Prosper", I went from "Fury" to Vulcan date to Vulcan birthdate to Earth birthdate.
And have an limit of 23 July to 14 August 2264. My money is on the 2 August 2264.

Also it is possible that Tuvok's correct birth-stardate is 3877.4 - just a small correction and it looks like a TOS stardate...

 

[kirkfan]

Nice work!

I wish I had the patience to do something like that.

 

[Lynx]

About Harry Kim,
as you say he mentioned that it is his birthday in "The Black Shore",
but this novels starts with a stardate 491750.0, so his birthday should be on:
5 March 2349.

About Kes,
I have Twisted noted with stardate 48945.8, not sure of my source (probably VHS or Star Charts), so her birthday should be on:
12 December 2369.

Thanks for your suggestions here. I can always need some corrections because some of my ideas are based on guesses and not facts.

As for Kim's birthday, the stardate in "The Black Shore" is obviously not correct. I've checked it twice on two different Stardate calculators and the stardate 491750.0 would be 1 October 2814 which can't be correct. For now, I will stick with my original suggestion.

As for Kes's birthday, I think you are correct there so I will change that to 12 December 2379. Just imagine that I've been celebrating Kes's birthday on the wrong day for a couple of years. Shame on me!
I don't think the stardate you mentioned was in "Star Charts", probably it was on the VHS.

I'll also buy your suggestion about Tuvok when it comes to the birthday and the TOS stardate.

Jeri wrote:

Great idea, Lynx! Thank you!

Can you dig up any Libra birthdays...? We are missing a Libra.

I'll see if I find one.

Melakon wrote:

Kate Mulgrew was 39 when she did "Caretaker".

Janeway is the most complicated in this project because there are a lot of condtradictions here and there. Backing her year of birth with three years to 2332 (which would make her 39 in 2371) would make her three years older than Riker who she met during her first year at Starfleet Academy and that was obviously not the fact. So for now, I'll stick to the original suggestion.

I'm not sure if it's possible to edit the OP now but during the weekend, I will add a "Voyager Birthdays" page o the Kes website and I will also come up with a corrected post here soon.

I'm grateful for all suggestions I can have on this project.

 

[Hando]

As for Kim's birthday, the stardate in "The Black Shore" is obviously not correct. I've checked it twice on two different Stardate calculators and the stardate 491750.0 would be 1 October 2814 which can't be correct. For now, I will stick with my original suggestion.

Right, 49175.00 seems more sensible so I used this. "Adventures In Time And Space: Star Trek All Series" makes the same comment. Could they have left Kazon space once and then returned or intersected it again?

I just noticed that 50175 is used on Memory Beta, no idea where this came from.

Perhaps Greg could comment.

 

[kirkfan]

Didn't Tuvok say that he was twenty nine during his time on Sulu's ship?

 

[Lynx]

As for Kim's birthday, the stardate in "The Black Shore" is obviously not correct. I've checked it twice on two different Stardate calculators and the stardate 491750.0 would be 1 October 2814 which can't be correct. For now, I will stick with my original suggestion.

Right, 49175.00 seems more sensible so I used this. "Adventures In Time And Space: Star Trek All Series" makes the same comment. Could they have left Kazon space once and then returned or intersected it again?

I just noticed that 50175 is used on Memory Beta, no idea where this came from.

Perhaps Greg could comment.

Well, that would mean that your earlier proposal for Kim's birthday at 5 March would be correct since Stardate 50175 is 5 Mar 2373 according to my calculations. It would place the events in the book between "The Chute" (stardate 50156.2 = 26 February 2373) and "Remember" (stardate 50203.1 = 16 March 2373). That could be a plausible date for the episode since it isn't that far away in time from when they actually did leave Kazon space.

To be honest, I didn't check Memory Beta for any stardates for "The Black Shore" since I thougt they would go with the official stardate in the book which isn't entirely correct. Sloppy of me, I have to admit that. I wonder where Memory Beta got 50175 from?

It would also be interesting to hear what Greg had to say about this. Anyway, "The Black Shore" is my all-time favorite among the Voyager books. I remember buying it on a Saturday and spending the whole afternoon reading it from beginning to end. It was so exciting that I just couldn'stop, except for some minutes of coffee-making.

As for me, my coffee intake will rise in the coming days because it looks like I have a lot of re-editing of maps and timeline to do.

 

[Hando]

^Actually, both are 5 March, 49175 is 2372 and 50175 is 2373 and some extra hours between them.

Could be that someone moved the events to the next year.

I use my own calculations, but they are seemingly the same as at: http://www.hillschmidt.de/gbr/sternenzeit.htm.

 

[Lynx]

^Actually, both are 5 March, 49175 is 2372 and 50175 is 2373 and some extra hours between them.

Could be that someone moved the events to the next year.

I use my own calculations, but they are seemingly the same as at: http://www.hillschmidt.de/gbr/sternenzeit.htm.

As Janeway said to Tuvok in "Caretaker": You're right as usual

I remember trying the date 41975 some years ago when I was working with the Voyager Timeline in which I tried to put the events in the books in the same timeline as the episodes and in that case the events in "The Black Shore" should have happened shortly after "Cold Fire" which wasn't correct at all.I still have a comment on that on the Kes Website.

Maybe someone came up with the same conclusion as you did and changed the date on Memory Beta.