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Odd Choices in TOS-R cgi fx
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It wasn't just the budget limitations they were under, but the time constraints, too. They had to remaster every episode from practically the day they announced it in 2007 until "The Cage" aired in early 2009 because every episode was being aired in syndication. TNG-R went straight to home video and furthermore had the advantage of having the original film stock of all the space FX to work with, making their task slightly easier. TOS-R made the most of what they had to work with pretty much like their forebearers.
Which is why I qualified my statement with "too often." If a CGI artist has the time & really knows what he or she is doing, the models they animate have weight to them.
The FX in the Star Trek Continues fan series are what TOS-R's should have been.
Pretty much. Thank you, Doug Drexler.
Well said!
I saw an interview with the head of CBS Digital saying that the texture they used for the Doomsday Machine was the same sun texture they used in Tomorrow is Yesterday! (another painful effort)
I also agree about the lighting (as I mentioned earlier)
This picture below of Eden FX (whom as I said were turned down for the job to save money) vs CBS,
the lighting, wrong font, and overall flatness issues are abundantly clear.
Look at the nacelles! (LOL)
Imagine what the Big E would look like with today's cameras and compositing.
At 3 feet longer than the TMP Enterprise it would look absolutely huge and more importantly, real.
Considering that "Amok Time" was the very first time we saw the planet Vulcan anywhere, I'm curious how you feel it wasn't in line with the original concept.
Other "best of" moments include Stratos ("The Cloud Minders"), the city on Scalos ("Wink of an Eye"), and the Sarpeidon supernova ("All Our Yesterdays"). That's where TOS-R really shines.
I hate this crap where they display the surface if a star as if seen through 800 feet tinted glass. If you want the star too look hot and dangerous then you render it as blinding light with the ship's shadowed side being maybe the only thing you can really make out.
At least in TVH they made an attempt to make the sun look hot and seething (albeit they messed up the same effect during the reverse trip).
I believe I recall this same quote. In it, okuda claimed the intent was for the fx to look like something done in the 1960s . Perhaps that's why the cgi models were done in this manner?
If their intent was for the VFX "to look like something done in the 1960s," then they failed miserably at that.
Nor is (or should there have been) there a reasonable expectation of that. Digital recording is never going to sound like 1960s analog tape and CGI is never going to look like 1960s VFX, at least not completely.
That the CGI effects completely missed the photographic style of the show is the most damning thing about it. The use of light and shadow in the new FX is inconsistent and incompatible with the photography of the bulk of each episode. Further, the colored lighting on the Yonada asteroid or on the Tholian ships in the originals was keeping with the use of colored lighting on the sets. Redoing them without that was to ensure the new VFX didn't feel like they were part of the show. It never made sense to me to attempt to vaguely modernize a few seconds of each show when 97% of what's around it remains firmly planted in the 1960s.
That's The Destiny of The Daleks DVD right? I've heard about that one although I haven't seen it! The Dalek firing shots are supposed to be more on target though aren't they?
JB
Definitely. TOS-R got a lot of attention when it came out and some who weren't enamored with it could be tagged as narrow minded. And yet there have been fan efforts that have managed to do what CBS failed at.
