Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).

[Cyke101]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Okay, this is too good not to share:

http://jezebel.com/new-all-feminist-ghostbusters-is-a-punch-in-the-dick-to-1682292125

"Yes it's true. This team has no dicks."

Anyway, I love that the picture in the article implies that girls also didn't grow up with Ghostbusters, either. My baby sister would jump up and down with excitement whenever Janine suited up for action in the cartoon.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Besides, women have been ghostbusting since 1982, and were more successful at it than their male counterparts.

 

[Cyke101]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

And McCarthy has also guest-hosted SNL a few times, and worked with Wiig on Bridesmaids as well.

True about McCarthy on SNL (which I think is her best work), but I thought Bridesmaids was stating the obvious

Which makes me glad that Wiig, Jones, and McKinnon are on board, because they have past experience with each other (or at least concentric circles of experience) all from SNL. I'm still iffy on McCarthy, but like Wiig she has Second City experience as well.

I've been out of the loop on SNL for several years because I only just picked it back up this year, but did Wiig and McKinnon ever overlap? I just assumed she left before McKinnon and Jones showed up.

Which doesn't account for the fact that Wiig has returned several times just for the hell of it, so what I said is pretty moot anyways.

But I definitely agree with your point that it's nice the cast has previously worked together, should make for some nice chemistry in the film.

You're right about Wiig and McKinnon -- they only overlapped for a couple months I think, so hardly enough time to build a working relationship... BUT they strike me as professionals at this point who can get the job done.

In any case, I'm sure between the four of them combined, you could get to Kevin Bacon really fast!

 

[Trekker4747]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

I'm not going to make the argument that ghostbusting would be a largely male-dominated profession. I guess it makes "sense" in terms of the idea that men mostly go into extermination or other forms of harder labor, but, again there's a lot to accept when you have to deal with any movie. The idea of four women going into ghostbusting isn't too terribly out of the line.

My biggest problem with the concept is that it's an unusual and somewhat worrying approach to say, "We're doing Ghostbusters but with all women!" is an odd way to start your movie-making venture. It just reeks of trying to capitalize or otherwise pander in some manner or other.

It's not like they come out and say "we're making a movie with all male leads" or when it comes to many other movies with female leads to say, "we're doing The Hangover but with all women!"

They just make the movie and but it out there and the audiences, reviewers, whoever say "It's like The Hangover but with women!"

It just reeks of "trying too hard" to make the movie "bold" and "exciting" and "thinking outside of the box!" It'd be something else entirely if they just made the movie without making the big announcement they're going with an all-female cast and that that's just how the writing and casting process turned out.

It reeks of a gimmick when the movie is being pretty much being sold as a gimmick from its very inception.

The movie could well be good, I'll likely end-up seeing it (but that'll likely depend on how much McCarthy annoys me in the trailers, I suppose.)

I just as of yet remain unconvinced the movie is being made with any intent behind it to try to be anything more than a cash-grab.

And, yeah, you could argue all movies are an attempt at a "cash grab." But plenty of movies try on many levels to be entertaining, thoughtful or exciting.

This one came out of the gate by going, "Look! We're being different by using all women in the lead roles! You were expecting men, weren't you?"

Most movies have done a lap or two before the casting shake-ups or edginess is revealed.

The movie made an all-female cast the issue, not the fans or followers of the movie. If casting and making the movie turned out that way things would be different, for me at least, but this one decided to announce itself to the world by declaring how "different" it was being.

That doesn't leave me with too much to not worry about.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Taking a job that would seem largely oriented toward men and casting it all with women though adds a whole other level to that gimmick.

We're constructing arbitrary glass ceilings on completely fictional careers now too? Jesus.

Besides, women have been ghostbusting since 1982, and were more successful at it than their male counterparts.

You made me chuckle.

Yeah, after thinking about a movie about busting ghosts, it doesn't really matter too much what's realistic or not. The entertaining part might be how it's contrary. if they do it right.
http://www.trekbbs.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

 

[Aldo]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

That doesn't leave me with too much to not worry about.

If you're worrying over a movie, than you need to recheck your priorities.

 

[EnriqueH]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Well, I don't watch Saturday Night Live so I have no idea what to expect from the cast, but I am familiar with Melissa McCarthy's increasingly tiresome schtick and I am familiar with Feig's chick-flick sensibilities.

For me, it's not that it's a female cast, it's that I have a strong feeling it's going to be chick-flicky. I love all kinds of movies, but chick flicks is probably the only exception. I hate chick flicks.

I hope McCarthy plays a different character. She driving that persona into the ground. It's like Johnny Depp playing weirdos. Enough already! Play a normal character for once, just to change it up! You'd think after 5 flops in a row that he'd take a hint and realize people want to see him do something different!

McCarthy is headed that way at the rate she's going.

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.

 

[Aldo]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Yes, because having a female cast automatically makes it a "chick flick."

I wish some of you guys could hear yourselves.

 

[Mudd]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

What "chick flicks" and male-oriented buddy comedies have in common right now is that even the worst of them tend to have more carefully worked plots, more interesting characterization, and of course more humor than almost all the tent-pole franchise blockbusters that the studios spend five or six times as much to make.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

When was the last time a man died or was seriously harmed from watching a chick - flick? Good grief, if a man is worried about whether or not a movie might be a chick flick what does that say about him?

 

[Venardhi]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

I do agree that McCarthy has unfortunately been stuck in the rut of being the butt of fat jokes, which may not be her fault as that may be all she's been offered. I hope they avoid relying too heavily on that in Ghostbusters, because I think she's very talented and has a lot more to offer.

It isn't even (or rather, just) the "fat" shtick, but rather that her characters tend to be the aggressively loud, gross, rude, close-minded and obnoxious variety. Even Chris Farley at his worst had a thread of likability in his performances.

 

[EnriqueH]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Yes, because having a female cast automatically makes it a "chick flick."

I wish some of you guys could hear yourselves.

I wish you'd read my posts.

If you did, then you'd see that I mentioned earlier: Feig's Bridesmaids had chick-flick sensibilities and I don't like chick flicks.

Is that a crime?

My wife HATES Star Trek.

In fact, anything science fiction, she can't stand. Does that mean she's anti-somebody? No, it just means she doesn't like science fiction.

My previous girlfriend HATED action movies. I love action movies. Rambo, Terminator, I love that guy stuff. But my previous ex? She preferred watching The Notebook. Does that make her anti-male? She just preferred girlie movies.

All female cast doesn't equal chick-flick.

But Feig's Bridemaids had that quality, and it's a type of movie that I just can't stand.

 

[Aldo]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

What does that even mean? Bridesmaids was a funny movie that happened to star women. I'm not even sure where the chick flick sensibilities would come in?

 

[Owain Taggart]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

I'll repeat what I've said earlier in the thread. The original movies never were about being men. they were simply about people doing what they do, which was busting ghosts. They just happened to be men busting ghosts. If the new movie is more along those lines, I won't have a problem. I think there's room for women in on this too, as long as they keep things neutral and don't bring about too much attention to that fact. If the director is smart enough, he'll realize that.

 

[Dream]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

My wife HATES Star Trek.

I feel sorry for you!

 

[Trekker4747]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

I'll repeat what I've said earlier in the thread. The original movies never were about being men. they were simply about people doing what they do, which was busting ghosts. They just happened to be men busting ghosts. If the new movie is more along those lines, I won't have a problem. I think there's room for women in on this too, as long as they keep things neutral and don't bring about too much attention to that fact. If the director is smart enough, he'll realize that.

Pretty much how I feel, but this movie came out of the gate going, "they're going to be women!" and cast one of the women who makes a living off of doing "look! I'm goofy and FAT!" so that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

I've no problem with a cast of women, it's just that the way this production is going at this point (granted, which is not far) doesn't feel like it's got the best of intentions behind it.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Yeah, I understand the unease, but I'm going with benefit of the doubt with this one and will judge it at a later date. It's way early. There's time for it to come into its own yet.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

My biggest problem with the concept is that it's an unusual and somewhat worrying approach to say, "We're doing Ghostbusters but with all women!" is an odd way to start your movie-making venture. It just reeks of trying to capitalize or otherwise pander in some manner or other.

It's not like they come out and say "we're making a movie with all male leads" or when it comes to many other movies with female leads to say, "we're doing The Hangover but with all women!"

They just make the movie and but it out there and the audiences, reviewers, whoever say "It's like The Hangover but with women!"

It just reeks of "trying too hard" to make the movie "bold" and "exciting" and "thinking outside of the box!" It'd be something else entirely if they just made the movie without making the big announcement they're going with an all-female cast and that that's just how the writing and casting process turned out.

It reeks of a gimmick when the movie is being pretty much being sold as a gimmick from its very inception.

I just as of yet remain unconvinced the movie is being made with any intent behind it to try to be anything more than a cash-grab.

This one came out of the gate by going, "Look! We're being different by using all women in the lead roles! You were expecting men, weren't you?"

The movie made an all-female cast the issue, not the fans or followers of the movie. If casting and making the movie turned out that way things would be different, for me at least, but this one decided to announce itself to the world by declaring how "different" it was being.

Pretty much how I feel, but this movie came out of the gate going, "they're going to be women!"

What a wondrous gift you have to read all of that information from a Tweet by the director with only four pictures of the cast and literally no descriptive text. I mean you have quotes and exclamation points galore that you obviously must have read in the metadata of the photos; or maybe they're some MagicEye posters with a hidden message, because I could never see those no matter how hard I stared.

No really, here's the Tweet in its entirety:

Please, share your gift of insight and tell us where the quotes with the director or the movie making a huge deal about the all-female cast to the exclusion of all else came from other than your own imagination, Trekker.

I've no problem with a cast of women, it's just that the way this production is going at this point (granted, which is not far) doesn't feel like it's got the best of intentions behind it.

You clearly do, since you've manufactured a justification for opposing it that wasn't there, pretending that it's all about the "gimmick" and that they don't have good intentions behind it (what does that even mean?) and don't want to make a good movie first and foremost.

 

[Amaris]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

Oh no! These women are going to get their estrogen all over the proton packs! This can't be allowed! I can't conceive of the notion that four women would willingly do this project for any other reason than they want to push their breasts into our faces! No other reason! No other reason! I am the put-upon male!

 

[Awesome Possum]

Re: Ghostbusters reboot: We're (almost, maybe, sorta) ready to believe

I just hope Slimer shows up.


Really the only thing that is going to upset me are the props. I love the proton pack more than any other prop. I know it's going to be different, I just hope it looks like something that looks hand assembled.