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Simon Pegg, Doug Jung To Write Star Trek 3

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And Roberto Orci? He's been with these movies every minute of their rebooting..

He's still on board as a producer, alongside J.J. Abrams and Bryan Burk. Although his former writing/producing partner Alex Kurtzman is no longer associated with the film.
 
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I'm excited about this. I love Simon Pegg, and when it comes to stuff like this, he's a consummate professional.

Not sure if this is how you meant it, but most hilarious of all for me, when Bob Orci said "fuck off" to that troll on Trekmovie, he was quoting Simon Pegg!:lol:
 
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And Roberto Orci? He's been with these movies every minute of their rebooting..

He's still on board as a producer, alongside J.J. Abrams and Bryan Burk. Although his former writing/producing partner Alex Kurtzman is no longer associated with the film.

If that actually means anything. Even Abrams once admitted that despite being credited as producer for LOST's entire run, he had no substantial involvement with it beyond the first season. I guess it's more of a contract thing.
 
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Well, I think two things:

1) I've liked all of his movies, so I have high hopes for his take on Trek
2) It's going to be funnier, which does lend some credence to the Farachi 'make it like Guardians of the Galaxy' rumour.
 
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Well, I think two things:

1) I've liked all of his movies, so I have high hopes for his take on Trek
2) It's going to be funnier, which does lend some credence to the Farachi 'make it like Guardians of the Galaxy rumour.'

I agree with both points.

I personally thought GotG was a fantastic film, so I have no issue with Star Trek taking some cues from that film, especially when it comes to exotic and interesting locations.
 
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So wait, writers names are now spoilers? How much longer before the existence of a new movie is considered a spoiler? And what are our conversations going to be like then?

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The AbramsTrek films are the only ones I've seen Simon Pegg do, but I think this is great news. If he's enthusiastic enough about ST3 to want to contribute to writing it, that gives the film an advantage, IMHO. :techman:
 
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Do you remember when Simon expressed what he would like to see from Scott in Star Trek 3?

"I would like to see Scotty challenged more. He is always complaining so if you ask him he is always challenged. I would like to see him in more situations of adversity. It is fun playing Scotty seriously too. I think he has a very serious heart. He is somebody who takes his job incredibly seriously. He is somebody who is fiercely loyal. He has a lot of attributes that are deadly serious. He just goes through life with an attitude that is fairly light and ironic"

I can´t wait to see Simon in his first interview as ST 3 writer. :techman:
 
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Yes, hopefully Simon Pegg writing the movie will mean that Scotty will be more in line with TOS Scotty, who was never really a comedic character so much as he was a serious character who also happened to be funny.
 
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I also recall him saying everything's gonna go to shit, Spock grows a beard and it turns out they're the mirror universe.:p
 
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I wonder if Pegg will write a completely new script or if the script is based on Ocris ideas with enough pegging to make a good movie out of it.
 
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Depressing.

Not a Shaun of the Dead fan, I take it?

I expressed my opinion about Simon Pegg in the Star Trek's Troubling 50th Anniversary thread... anyway tl dr: I'm not impressed by his writing and I don't trust him being able to deliver when it comes to writing something with more depth and not just comedy. The director also did mostly action movies. In short, I fear that this new creative team will dramatically (no pun intended) change the tone of the other movies. I sort of also expect to see unrecognizable characters and bias from Pegg's part when it comes to his own character (and possibly his little alien friend)
From the little I know about Pegg, I can't even imagine what he will do with Uhura and Carol since he seems to be a guys only kind of fanboy.
The fact that he's a trek fan is more worrying than anything too. Fanboys and fangirls alike might fall in the tedious trap of self-serving nostalgia.
I doubt that compared to the last movie we will have less critics and fans complaining that the movie has too many nods to the old series and fanservice...

add to that, it seems that the rumor that paramount wanted the last movie to look like GOTG is founded... and while I liked that movie and it was fun, it is nothing like the reboot movies and the reason why I like them. Ditto for the fast and furious ones. Which is not to say that the reboot movies don't have action or funny moments because they do have that too. But they also have drama and character arcs and interesting dynamics between the characters.
Orci admitted that his decision to not direct was over creative differences too. I sure hope that paramount didn't reject his script because it was more character driven and they wanted a more cliché action movie with comedy instead. Ultimately, Paramount&Co are all about the money.
 
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UPDATE:

Pegg’s official Twitter account just announced:

It’s true! Simon is currently working on the screenplay for the third Star Trek film with Dark Blue writer, Doug Jung. – HC

— Pegg News (@simonpegg) January 22, 2015
 
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thing is, I wish I could share the optimism here and think that Pegg and the other guy were hired to add great character development and depth to the story and thus end this trilogy with the greatest movie ever. But frankly, of all the writers and directors in Hollywood I seriously doubt that Paramount chose Simon Pegg of all the people because they wanted a more character driven story (or because he's a 'star trek fan that gets star trek' - Orci is a star trek fan too and he isn't that loved :lol:) and quality writing. I can very easily imagine why they hired both him and the other two guys and what is their goal here (especially if the rumor about them wanting to mirror Gotg success is true) and it's for everything but quality writing and character development.
 
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I've always thought Spaced was very well-written. Sure, it was just a TV show and not a movie, but Pegg's writing on that show (along with his co-writer and co-star Jessica Stevenson) was simultaneously both funny and intelligent.

That description sounds like some of my favorite "Treks" of the past.
 
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I wonder if Pegg will write a completely new script or if the script is based on Ocris ideas with enough pegging to make a good movie out of it.

The rumors are that Paramount was unhappy with Orci's script and that's why they dropped him as director. If that's true, this is probably a whole new script.



anyway tl dr: I'm not impressed by his writing and I don't trust him being able to deliver when it comes to writing something with more depth and not just comedy.

Okay, there's a fundamental misconception here, which is that comedy can't be deep. On the contrary, the best comedy is as rich and deep as any drama, because both are about exploring the complexities of human behavior and emotion. And I think the Cornetto Trilogy films have a lot of psychological and thematic depth to them.


The director also did mostly action movies.

There are plenty of directors who can do more than one type of film. There was a time when nobody would've expected that the director of Raiders of the Lost Ark and E.T. was capable of doing a film like Schindler's List or Saving Private Ryan.


In short, I fear that this new creative team will dramatically (no pun intended) change the tone of the other movies.

Is that bad? I liked the first two films for the most part, but I still hope to see something new in the third. A shift in tone and approach could revitalize things.


I sort of also expect to see unrecognizable characters and bias from Pegg's part when it comes to his own character (and possibly his little alien friend)

Now, that's unfair and unjustified. Lots of writer-actors are perfectly capable of putting their egos aside and telling well-balanced stories. Especially comedy writers, given how much comedy is about self-deprecation. Pegg may have played the lead characters in all three Cornetto films, but in each case his character was something of the butt of the film's jokes, especially in The World's End. He wouldn't be so willing to make himself look bad if he were the egomaniac you're assuming.

Besides, Abrams and Burk (and possibly Orci) will still be the hands-on producers of the film, and I assume Abrams will approach it like the TV showrunner he used to be, revising other writers' scripts to ensure the characters and world are portrayed consistently. Filmmaking is a collaborative process.


add to that, it seems that the rumor that paramount wanted the last movie to look like GOTG is founded... and while I liked that movie and it was fun, it is nothing like the reboot movies and the reason why I like them.

Well, that depends on what aspects they emulate. GotG had a sense of wonder about the universe and a fairly epic scope. I'd prefer a Trek movie's portrayal of the cosmos to be less fanciful -- no giant alien skulls turned into space habitats, please -- but I would like a movie that focuses on space exploration and the grandeur of the cosmos, something we've never really gotten in a Trek movie.
 
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