Episode of the Week : Friday's Child
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Guys, Julie Newmar was known for her sexiness.
I've heard women complaining that they didn't see "Vanilla Sky" because Tom Cruise was playing a disfigured guy, and they only wanted to see "pretty boy" Tom Cruise despite that Cruise can be a phenomenal dramatic performer.
Newmar was known for being a hottie, not for being Meryl Streep.
So I was kinda looking forward to seeing some sparks flying between her and Kirk or Spock, but she didn't play that kind of character. She played a matronly, pregnant woman. And that's ok.
It's like imagine a movie with Clint Eastwood and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Wouldn't it be cool to see the two kicking ass side by side? But now imagine the movie is about two grandfathers in a home? Yeah, it would still be interesting, but I think a lot of people would rather see them kicking ass first before they attempt something dramatic.
Why?
Because Eastwood and Arnold are known for being badass types. Not grandpas.
Same thing here: Newmar was known for being a powerful, provocative villainess, not a vulnerable mommy.
Yeah, it's cool in a way, but not what I was hoping for.
I've heard women complaining that they didn't see "Vanilla Sky" because Tom Cruise was playing a disfigured guy, and they only wanted to see "pretty boy" Tom Cruise despite that Cruise can be a phenomenal dramatic performer.
Newmar was known for being a hottie, not for being Meryl Streep.
So I was kinda looking forward to seeing some sparks flying between her and Kirk or Spock, but she didn't play that kind of character. She played a matronly, pregnant woman. And that's ok.
It's like imagine a movie with Clint Eastwood and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Wouldn't it be cool to see the two kicking ass side by side? But now imagine the movie is about two grandfathers in a home? Yeah, it would still be interesting, but I think a lot of people would rather see them kicking ass first before they attempt something dramatic.
Why?
Because Eastwood and Arnold are known for being badass types. Not grandpas.
Same thing here: Newmar was known for being a powerful, provocative villainess, not a vulnerable mommy.
Yeah, it's cool in a way, but not what I was hoping for.
Ugh! For crying aloud, do you have any idea? Women are WORSE than guys when it comes to stuff like this.
TRUST ME.
I have many, many, many female friends---including my wife---and they'll be the first to admit that women are worse than the guys.
It's all in good fun anyway, man, so CHILL.
I was hoping for a Julie Newmar that would make me do this:
But instead, I got this:
I can respect if Julie Newmar was stretching her range or whatever, but I was hoping for a sexier role.
And yes, this is a show where the female officers ARE wearing miniskirts 24/7.
So here's my hand, I'll help you get off that high horse.
Sex has always been a part of Star Trek. It's why the women wear miniskirts and why Kirk is the only one who gets his shirt ripped open in a fight to reveal his manly shoulder. Eye candy is part of the very fabric of Star Trek right from the beginning, and I am here to say I approve wholeheartedly.
I agree. I visited the Friday's Child filming location recently, and I am very impressed with how they pulled off the hunting scenes in this episode. Unfortunately there is no cave at Vasquez Rocks so the cuts to the "in studio" cave don't quite work.
Those rocks where Kirk and Spock decide to make their stand against the Klingon and the hunters are really quite steep and dangerous to access. Also there are loose rocks and gravel everywhere. It's hard to imagine the two leads being asked to climb into an area like this these days. Well done Bill and Leonard.
I can only imagine what it would have been like filming out there in 100+ degree temperatures. Ouch.
My personal summary for this episode is The Enterprise visits a renaissance faire.
I would buy a ticket for that movie.
I would buy a ticket for that movie.
Ugh! For crying aloud, do you have any idea? Women are WORSE than guys when it comes to stuff like this.
TRUST ME.
I have many, many, many female friends---including my wife---and they'll be the first to admit that women are worse than the guys.
It's all in good fun anyway, man, so CHILL.
I was hoping for a Julie Newmar that would make me do this:
But instead, I got this:
I can respect if Julie Newmar was stretching her range or whatever, but I was hoping for a sexier role.
And yes, this is a show where the female officers ARE wearing miniskirts 24/7.
So here's my hand, I'll help you get off that high horse.
Sex has always been a part of Star Trek. It's why the women wear miniskirts and why Kirk is the only one who gets his shirt ripped open in a fight to reveal his manly shoulder. Eye candy is part of the very fabric of Star Trek right from the beginning, and I am here to say I approve wholeheartedly.
Two words:
BILL THEISS.
Time for a nap? I believe Newmar is known for BOTH being a serviceable if not good character actress as well as her sex appeal. No sin in citing either quality.
That's why there's Law & Order. This is Star Trek. It should ooze sex appeal.
In your opinion.
I think it's a nice change. She plays a dignified and strong woman. Doesn't get made-out-with by the Shat. Not in a love triangle.
I am getting on my high horse now . . . yup, there we are . . .
But really, I don't need to be titillated every episode by the female guest star.
2. I HATE this ep. Gave it a 2. There was a thread elsewhere to de-canonize one episode. This might be mine. Why? Not sure.
I think it's a nice change. She plays a dignified and strong woman. Doesn't get made-out-with by the Shat. Not in a love triangle.
I am getting on my high horse now . . . yup, there we are . . .
But really, I don't need to be titillated every episode by the female guest star.
2. I HATE this ep. Gave it a 2. There was a thread elsewhere to de-canonize one episode. This might be mine. Why? Not sure.
As a young girl, I was drawn to Star Trek for its hope - that we'd survive the future and not nuke ourselves. There are better shows for sex appeal if that is what is wanted.
Never noticed miniskirts on the show, since they were still around around me in real life. In 1971 when I began watching, it was still the mode of dress. Now it's just "oh, those mad 1960s/early 1970s, when we froze our asses off in the winter in the name of fashion!"
Star Trek has many good qualities.
Hope, sex appeal, action, social commentary, social exploration, adventure, friendship.
You name it. Star Trek probably has it.
Like De Kelley said, if we could nail down the formula, we could bottle it up and resell it. Hard to duplicate.
Star Trek is a freak of nature.
Hope, sex appeal, action, social commentary, social exploration, adventure, friendship.
You name it. Star Trek probably has it.
Like De Kelley said, if we could nail down the formula, we could bottle it up and resell it. Hard to duplicate.
Star Trek is a freak of nature.
I can't say I hate "Friday's Child," but it's never been one of my favorites. Maybe because there's no science fiction in it. Just change a few minor details and it could be a story of early colonial America, with the British and French competing for the alliance of a local Indian tribe.
But then, "Conscience of the King" isn't a science fiction story either. It could just as easily have been an episode of a cop show or a detective show or a Western. And I like that episode. So go figure.
But then, "Conscience of the King" isn't a science fiction story either. It could just as easily have been an episode of a cop show or a detective show or a Western. And I like that episode. So go figure.
Never noticed miniskirts on the show, since they were still around around me in real life. In 1971 when I began watching, it was still the mode of dress. Now it's just "oh, those mad 1960s/early 1970s, when we froze our asses off in the winter in the name of fashion!"
The ironic thing about all these people who call 'sexism' at the sight of a miniskirt, is that those people really need to take a look at some of what young people wear in the name of fashion these days... miniskirts were relatively modest by comparison.
It isn't the miniskirt per se, but rather the idea that female personnel on a military space vessel would wear minidresses as their standard duty uniform. But, hey, it was the Sixties, man!
It isn't the miniskirt per se, but rather the idea that female personnel on a military space vessel would wear minidresses as their standard duty uniform. But, hey, it was the Sixties, man!
Pretty much this. I wince when I see the cute 'lil panties showing during various episodes. Super unprofessional in my book. Besides, we don't even have the excuse nowadays of them being fashionable as they were when Star Trek was first aired.
But it was the crazy sexist 60s! And I do remember some amongst my sex who LIKED to expose their undies. I wasn't one of them. I was constantly tugging those damned skirts down a bit.
Cleavage on the other hand....
Ugh! For crying aloud, do you have any idea?...
It's all in good fun anyway, man, so CHILL.
So here's my hand, I'll help you get off that high horse.
Telling people to "nap" and "chill" etc. is saying "shut up" without using those words, and about 5th grade level on the debate scale.
Ugh! For crying aloud, do you have any idea?...
It's all in good fun anyway, man, so CHILL.
So here's my hand, I'll help you get off that high horse.
Telling people to "nap" and "chill" etc. is saying "shut up" without using those words, and about 5th grade level on the debate scale.
You're not being very nice. And you're misunderstanding the meaning.
Actually, no it doesn't mean "shut up". It means "RELAX".
Sorry is "chill" is a little too East Coast for you?
And nobody is debating with you. I thought we were just conversing.
Clearly you got all aggressive, with a holier than thou attitude, and I just tried to make nice with you by keeping it casual. But if you want to get downright insulting...hey.
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