TAS freighter...
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Some quick orthographic views. After TOS this was the first major Starfleet ship design we saw in Trek--certainly before we saw new designs in TMP and TWOK. And interestingly it didn't follow the familiar saucer and nacelles approach that FJ took. Of course it could be that whoever drew this wasn't thinking in the same terms as FJ or MJ. I've also no idea whether the original illustrator had been given any sort of direction for the design or just told to "come up with something interesting."
The dark spots that look like unlit windows on the lower section and on the support pylons I do not intend to be actual windows. I'm thinking they are simply more sensor units on the ship's exterior.
The dark spots that look like unlit windows on the lower section and on the support pylons I do not intend to be actual windows. I'm thinking they are simply more sensor units on the ship's exterior.
Great orthos.
I realize you are understandably not keen on Geoffrey Mandel's Independence schematics (linked upthread), and, of course, all fan-based schematics are a "take it with a grain of salt" affair anyway. But one interesting thing Mandel did with the Independence was to take that aft-underside keel-like structure and draw up internal floor plans for crew quarters there. Of course, you're not following anything like that, but what do you think would be house there? Do you think crew quarters would fit?
The drawings of the Huron from TAS "The Priates of Orion" are vague, naturally, but that fantail shape you have blacked out is really weird in the Animated artwork. Could it be the impulse engines, or maybe a clamshell door for a shuttlecraft hangar? The Independence drawings suggest shuttlecraft land on an external landing target, DEEP SPACE NINE-style, on the external topside of the aft-quarter, and are then lowered into the cargo hold via elevator. Do you think your Huron has shuttlecraft capacity? If so how would these small craft ingress/egress/be hangared?
I realize you are understandably not keen on Geoffrey Mandel's Independence schematics (linked upthread), and, of course, all fan-based schematics are a "take it with a grain of salt" affair anyway. But one interesting thing Mandel did with the Independence was to take that aft-underside keel-like structure and draw up internal floor plans for crew quarters there. Of course, you're not following anything like that, but what do you think would be house there? Do you think crew quarters would fit?
The drawings of the Huron from TAS "The Priates of Orion" are vague, naturally, but that fantail shape you have blacked out is really weird in the Animated artwork. Could it be the impulse engines, or maybe a clamshell door for a shuttlecraft hangar? The Independence drawings suggest shuttlecraft land on an external landing target, DEEP SPACE NINE-style, on the external topside of the aft-quarter, and are then lowered into the cargo hold via elevator. Do you think your Huron has shuttlecraft capacity? If so how would these small craft ingress/egress/be hangared?
The blacked out fantail section does indeed have internal detail for the impulse drive. It's just not really showing up here because it's in shadow.
I haven't yet given much thought to how the interior is laid out. I'm assuming the bridge is in the foremost dome section. The bits that look almost like bug eyes on top of the dome will be lighted much like the upper and lowermost domes on the Constitution-class. I have an idea about the hangar area, but it isn't clear yet.
Mandel's design really departed from the TAS ship such that it is its own thing that bears only a remote resemblance to what we saw onscreen.
I haven't yet given much thought to how the interior is laid out. I'm assuming the bridge is in the foremost dome section. The bits that look almost like bug eyes on top of the dome will be lighted much like the upper and lowermost domes on the Constitution-class. I have an idea about the hangar area, but it isn't clear yet.
Mandel's design really departed from the TAS ship such that it is its own thing that bears only a remote resemblance to what we saw onscreen.
Could be. It's hard to judge. As is they look okay when viewed from the front. But then since the idea is that they can pivot they could be reoriented.
Bummer, but I didn't model them to pivot easily which I should have done.
I've just finished adding windows. There's also signage and running lights to add. The running lights are up to me since none can be seen on the onscreen version. I can add a few other details like hatches. Then it's on to rendering some space scenes.
I shared this WIP with Doug Drexler and Gary Kerr and they both seem to quite like it. I also shared it with Robert Sawyer who also quite liked it given he's a huge TOS fan.
I'm wondering about the registry. Onscreen it says NCC-F1913. I don't know whether to go with that given I'm not envisioning this as primarily a freighter. I'm also thinking of giving it a name of my own rather than Huron or Antares.
Antares in "Charlie X" remastered was not the same as the TAS Huron. It was significantly different in appearance from the Huron. The remastered Antares (Antares-R?) was the same type of vessel as the TAS "More Tribbles, More Troubles" robot grain haulers and the remastered Woden ("The Ultimate Computer") but with the addition of a squared-off pseudo-saucerette-like command module attached to the front, as in Rick Merk's thread (link provided upthread).
Maurice is absolutely right that the "whiskers" aren't angled out as much as in TAS. If you attempt to superimpose a matching orientation in perspective with the first picture in the OP, it should be quite evident.
Yes, I see it, but I'll have to think about whether I can change it.
Considering the scale I have for this (which is a bit bigger than I depicted initially earlier upthread) the fantail section (where I have the impulse engines) wouldn't have a big enough opening to allow for a shuttlecraft. And the openings at the aft end of the aft dome like structure certainly aren't large enough to allow a shuttlecraft to pass through. The general idea I have at present is that the lower mid section could be the hangar bay wherein the shuttlecraft would access through something like a bomb bay style arrangement.
And if this were indeed a survey ship then perhaps the shuttlecraft it carries could be a heavy lander type.
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I agree with you in that sense of the design. Why use a cargo drone for a survey ship? The Huron design works much better, even a modified version would work too. I have played around with a modified design of the Huron and could easily make it into a survey ship.
Possible names for the Huron's sistership:
Gitche Gumee
Superior
Erie (or Lake Erie)
Gales of November
Whitefish Bay
Lake Michigan
Edmund Fitzgerald
Arthur Anderson
(Thank you, Gordon Lightfoot)
Gitche Gumee
Superior
Erie (or Lake Erie)
Gales of November
Whitefish Bay
Lake Michigan
Edmund Fitzgerald
Arthur Anderson
(Thank you, Gordon Lightfoot)
