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TMP civilian clothes

PCz911

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It has been pointed out to me that the "civilian" clothing in TMP bear an uncanny resemblance to those from 'Logans run' (note the air tram scene and the extras)

Was this just a coincidence? A function of 70s style? Any ideas?
 
I don't see any resemblance. TMP clothing is dull and mute, with browns, grays, etc.

In Logan's Run, people wear the same color clothing as what's shown on their "life clock":

- Birth to age 8: white (clear)
- Ages 8 to 16: yellow
- Ages 16 to 24: green
- Ages 24 to 30: red

Nowhere in TMP, that I can see, does anyone wear 'sharp' colors like yellow, green or red.
 
Even the equivalent colors among the Starfleet uniforms are muddied, washed out, or darkened. Yellow becomes mustard/beige, green that sallow grey/green in engineering, and the red becomes almost brown, like rust.
 
Even the equivalent colors among the Starfleet uniforms are muddied, washed out, or darkened. Yellow becomes mustard/beige, green that sallow grey/green in engineering, and the red becomes almost brown, like rust.

No, the three division colours of TOS became six divisions in TMP, but represented only in the background circle of the insignia patch and the epaulettes (ie. command white, sciences orange, medical green, engineering red, ship's services yellow, security grey). Blue was avoided because, with the early bluescreens, the old science blue uniform would have been problematic.

The uniform colours are not meant to be reminiscent of TOS at all, and the ship's officers are supposedly able to choose whether they wore the beige or blue/grey (hence Ilia and the Rhaandarite bridge ensign wear blue/grey, and Decker did some publicity shots in beige), with medical and engineering utility uniforms being white, non-com crew being brown and starbase personnel green.
 
I don't see any resemblance. TMP clothing is dull and mute, with browns, grays, etc.

In Logan's Run, people wear the same color clothing as what's shown on their "life clock":

- Birth to age 8: white (clear)
- Ages 8 to 16: yellow
- Ages 16 to 24: green
- Ages 24 to 30: red

Nowhere in TMP, that I can see, does anyone wear 'sharp' colors like yellow, green or red.

Even the equivalent colors among the Starfleet uniforms are muddied, washed out, or darkened. Yellow becomes mustard/beige, green that sallow grey/green in engineering, and the red becomes almost brown, like rust.

No, the three division colours of TOS became six divisions in TMP, but represented only in the background circle of the insignia patch and the epaulettes (ie. command white, sciences orange, medical green, engineering red, ship's services yellow, security grey). Blue was avoided because, with the early bluescreens, the old science blue uniform would have been problematic.

The uniform colours are not meant to be reminiscent of TOS at all, and the ship's officers are supposedly able to choose whether they wore the beige or blue/grey (hence Ilia and the Rhaandarite bridge ensign wear blue/grey, and Decker did some publicity shots in beige), with medical and engineering utility uniforms being white, non-com crew being brown and starbase personnel green.

I was referencing Riu Riu Chiu's (mods please make the appropriate change after the holidays) quote above mine, and meant the color palette used in the film rather than the uniform colors carrying over from the series. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
 
The uniform colours are not meant to be reminiscent of TOS at all, and the ship's officers are supposedly able to choose whether they wore the beige or blue/grey (hence Ilia and the Rhaandarite bridge ensign wear blue/grey, and Decker did some publicity shots in beige), with medical and engineering utility uniforms being white, non-com crew being brown and starbase personnel green.

I always thought that officers and crew in TMP got to wear pretty much whatever color uniform they wanted. Actual *division* colors are only shown in a little circle on the shoulders (where the rank stripes also are).

Starfleet uniforms as seen in TMP are a mishmash of white, gray, brown, beige, etc. which appear to have nothing to do with rank or position.
 
I always thought that officers and crew in TMP got to wear pretty much whatever color uniform they wanted. Actual *division* colors are only shown in a little circle on the shoulders (where the rank stripes also are).

Starfleet uniforms as seen in TMP are a mishmash of white, gray, brown, beige, etc. which appear to have nothing to do with rank or position.

Which is what I said. :confused: Yes, "in a little circle" behind the insignia" and "on the shoulders" (ie. epaulets). Although I also recall Robert Fletcher saying the brown rec deck uniforms were not for officers. And green was reserved for starbase personnel (ie. Rhaandarite officer with scanner when Kirk beams up to the Office complex).
 
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What a fantastic link! This is soooooo true.

Yeah TV tropes is awesome :)

TMP seems to have cruised on that wave lenght in general. It's quite a bit more alien than the rest of Star Trek, with this strange, cold, slightly unsettling atmosphere that was really part of the package with a lot of older SciFi literature.

I read on TV Tropes and Memory Alpha once that in the novelization there are even hints at the Federation (outside Starfleet) entering the transhumanist stage with "New Men" gathering in mass minds and such.
However I haven't read the novelisation myself, so I have no way of verifying that and in any case it would be restricted to TMP's novelisation. Trek is not really pro-transhumanism.
 
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What a fantastic link! This is soooooo true.

Yeah TV tropes is awesome :)

TMP seems to have cruised on that wave lenght in general. It's quite a bit more alien than the rest of Star Trek, with this strange, cold, slightly unsettling atmosphere that was really part of the package with a lot of older SciFi literature.

I read on TV Tropes and Memory Alpha once that in the novelization there are even hints at the Federation (outside Starfleet) entering the transhumanist stage with "New Men" gathering in mass minds and such.
However I haven't read the novelisation myself, so I have no way of verifying that and in any case it would be restricted to TMP's novelisation. Trek is not really pro-transhumanism.

Pretty much - GR repositions the Trek crew as throwbacks who to an extent don't fit in on earth.
 
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