Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

[Donny]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Now this looks like a damn computer center...


Obviously still a work in progress. I have to build the lab equipment before I can call this wall of the office complete.

 

[Mytran]

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One of the rare improvements that the TNG set made to this area was the addition of a DOOR at the end of the room. Otherwise it's a very dangerous dead-end when monsters are rampaging in your sickbay!

It would also have allowed access to the second ward. Ah, well. Looks good though!

 

[FalTorPan]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Now this looks like a damn computer center...


Obviously still a work in progress. I have to build the lab equipment before I can call this wall of the office complete.

You're doing an astounding job with this effort, Donny. It's fun watching each interior space of the Big "E" come alive again through your work.

Did you by chance make a mesh of the rec deck at one point, long ago? I remember an old thread about that. Just curious!

Keep up the amazing work!

 

[cardinal biggles]

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^Was that the thread about Andy Probert's unused concept sketch for the Rec Deck that would have used a series of terraces to allow the room to work with the curved underside of the saucer?

 

[Donny]

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Did you by chance make a mesh of the rec deck at one point, long ago? I remember an old thread about that. Just curious!

Keep up the amazing work!

I have never attempted the Rec Deck (but can't wait to!). I did, however, build the officer's lounge in an older version of this project. You can see screenshots here. I will be rebuilding this area for Unreal 4 as well.

 

[Basill]

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I love this! The actual view from the perspective of the V'Ger/Ilia probe.

<brash door explosion> "I have recorded enough here... YOU will now assist me further!"

I assume the entrance door near the corner of the wall to the far right is merely out of site in this render, since screen shots seem to indicate the office windows (opposite side of course) don't begin until that door ends, just past the right edge of its frame? I hate that I never made it that far into my facility model.

I LOVE your floaty green micro-bio screen! And isn't it so cool how many things you can use over and over for different sets?

 

[MarsWeeps]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Now this looks like a damn computer center...


Obviously still a work in progress. I have to build the lab equipment before I can call this wall of the office complete.

Very nice! One question, is this shot in the movie? One change I would make is McCoy's name display

CDR. L. MC COY, M.D. <....way too many abbreviations on a huge window.

 

[Donny]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Now this looks like a damn computer center...


Obviously still a work in progress. I have to build the lab equipment before I can call this wall of the office complete.

Very nice! One question, is this shot in the movie? One change I would make is McCoy's name display

CDR. L. MC COY, M.D. <....way too many abbreviations on a huge window.

I agree that it has way too many abbreviations, but the window sticker stays as it is in the movie: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twokhd/twokhd0807.jpg

 

[Firebird]

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One of the rare improvements that the TNG set made to this area was the addition of a DOOR at the end of the room. Otherwise it's a very dangerous dead-end when monsters are rampaging in your sickbay!

It would also have allowed access to the second ward. Ah, well. Looks good though!

The set plans show there is a door leading to the corridor from that office/lab area, so it's not completely a dead end.

 

[Firebird]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Donny, I just found this old thread on the TMP sickbay that might be of interest for you: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=133252

Of note, it was pointed out that the wall that we see on the extreme left of these two shots:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2011/twokhd0807.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/61505200@N02/15809108499/

It came from the airlock set from ST:TMP, you can see it behind Spock:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd2033.jpg

I'm not sure how that wall was placed in there in respects to the access corridor and McCoy's office. Although, this shot from Roddenberry's intro to The Cage shows some separation between the two sets, also the height difference between them: http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x01/thecgaeintro01_044.jpg

Not sure if any of that will help with your models of sickbay and the transporter room, but I found them pretty enlightening.

 

[Donny]

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Donny, I just found this old thread on the TMP sickbay that might be of interest for you: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=133252

Of note, it was pointed out that the wall that we see on the extreme left of these two shots:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2011/twokhd0807.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/61505200@N02/15809108499/

It came from the airlock set from ST:TMP, you can see it behind Spock:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd2033.jpg

I'm not sure how that wall was placed in there in respects to the access corridor and McCoy's office. Although, this shot from Roddenberry's intro to The Cage shows some separation between the two sets, also the height difference between them: http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x01/thecgaeintro01_044.jpg

Not sure if any of that will help with your models of sickbay and the transporter room, but I found them pretty enlightening.

Thanks for all that. I've worked out in my mind how I will connect this service corridor to the rest of Sickbay, but I will have to do so after I have the office, exam room, and ward rooms complete.

 

[Maurice]

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It came from the airlock set from ST:TMP, you can see it behind Spock:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd2033.jpg

More likely the converse. They borrowed bits from the standing sets to use in the one-off sets like the airlock staging area, Epsilon Nine, etc.

I'm not sure how that wall was placed in there in respects to the access corridor and McCoy's office. Although, this shot from Roddenberry's intro to The Cage shows some separation between the two sets, also the height difference between them: http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x01/thecgaeintro01_044.jpg

The grilled floor in the transporter room was elevated above the molded plastic "equipment" panels (you can see Kirk and Bones step down to the door as they exit the transporter in TMP), and said raised floor walkway passed through the area outside Bones' office windows, and is indicated as such on the set plans.

 

[Basill]

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It came from the airlock set from ST:TMP, you can see it behind Spock:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd2033.jpg

More likely the converse. They borrowed bits from the standing sets to use in the one-off sets like the airlock staging area, Epsilon Nine, etc.

Indeed, in addition to appearances in TWOK and TSFS, it popped up a significant number of times in TMP alone...

http://starstation.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/green_thingies.jpg

...and it appears there were no less than two such units at the ready.

That upper left portion of the Airtram matte shot from TMP, which utilized the wall elements, has actually had me wondering if those live action portions weren't filmed using the large windows in and about the sickbay office.

 

[Donny]

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Indeed, in addition to appearances in TWOK and TSFS, it popped up a significant number of times in TMP alone...

http://starstation.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/green_thingies.jpg

...and it appears there were no less than two such units at the ready.

That upper left portion of the Airtram matte shot from TMP, which utilized the wall elements, has actually had me wondering if those live action portions weren't filmed using the large windows in and about the sickbay office.

You beat me to it, Basill. I was just logging on to point out all the instances our green computer panel appears in the early movies.

However, I never noticed it was up there in the Airtram control room. And I can say, after modelling the sickbay windows, that those Airtram control room windows looks VERY similar.

 

[Tallguy]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

Indeed, in addition to appearances in TWOK and TSFS, it popped up a significant number of times in TMP alone...

http://starstation.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/green_thingies.jpg

...and it appears there were no less than two such units at the ready.

That upper left portion of the Airtram matte shot from TMP, which utilized the wall elements, has actually had me wondering if those live action portions weren't filmed using the large windows in and about the sickbay office.

You beat me to it, Basill. I was just logging on to point out all the instances our green computer panel appears in the early movies.

However, I never noticed it was up there in the Airtram control room. And I can say, after modelling the sickbay windows, that those Airtram control room windows looks VERY similar.

Wow. That's quite a find!

 

[Mytran]

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One of the rare improvements that the TNG set made to this area was the addition of a DOOR at the end of the room. Otherwise it's a very dangerous dead-end when monsters are rampaging in your sickbay!

It would also have allowed access to the second ward. Ah, well. Looks good though!

The set plans show there is a door leading to the corridor from that office/lab area, so it's not completely a dead end.

Do you mean this set plan? I'm pretty sure those gaps are just the full height windows.
It also shows just SIX sickbay beds when all these years I swore there were seven. Too much Shane Johnson in my youth I guess!

 

[Firebird]

Re: Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

One of the rare improvements that the TNG set made to this area was the addition of a DOOR at the end of the room. Otherwise it's a very dangerous dead-end when monsters are rampaging in your sickbay!

It would also have allowed access to the second ward. Ah, well. Looks good though!

The set plans show there is a door leading to the corridor from that office/lab area, so it's not completely a dead end.

Do you mean this set plan? I'm pretty sure those gaps are just the full height windows.
It also shows just SIX sickbay beds when all these years I swore there were seven. Too much Shane Johnson in my youth I guess!

Yeah, that was the one. I was actually talking about the doorway that leads into the radial corridor, not the windows. They did fix that issue with access to McCoy's office by TWOK; they simply took the windows out and made it open access to the side corridor, making it easy to drop by and annoy Dr. McCoy

 

[cardinal biggles]

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Actually, the door was there the whole time — it's visible on the set plans, as well as in this shot after Ilia goes "HULK SMASH" on the locked door. All the other shots in that Kirk-Spock-Decker conversation were blocked so the door wasn't visible (or might have even been a camera position).

 

[Maurice]

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Yes because Decker and Ilia-probe exit via that door.

 

[Donny]

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They did fix that issue with access to McCoy's office by TWOK; they simply took the windows out and made it open access to the side corridor, making it easy to drop by and annoy Dr. McCoy

I don't think so. A set of windows still separate the office from the service corridor in TWOK as well. You can see the reflection in the glass, and the beam that separates the two panes:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twokhd/twokhd0807.jpg

Also, regarding the office doors, there are two as indicated on screen and on the set plans. One leading into the concentric corridor and one leading into the exam room:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd1960.jpg



Anyway, now that all that is cleared up

I spent the morning and Christmas Day evening working on the "lab equipment" that occupies space on the consoles in the good doctor's office:

The equipment is depicted in the Phase II Enterprise Flight Manual:
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/efm/efm-page-37.jpg

But only ever appear briefly in TMP:


And The Cage Documentary:
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x01/thecgaeintro01_037.jpg

Here are my renditions of this bulky and arguably old-fashioned equipment, along with some notes:

The object to the right is supposed to be a high-powered microscope, and by careful observation I was able to determine that it was, in fact, made up of a Sonobuoy (click here to read Basill's blog post on their use in Trek), which turn up all throughout the early movies and bits of TNG. The object to the left is a centrifuge for separating blood samples into layers for chemical analysis. The panel with the four cylinders is an autoclave for sterilizing medical tools.



The objects on the left in the screenshot below were, to my knowledge, never seen in any Trek production, but are depicted in the Enterprise Flight Manual. I don't know if these elements were ever constructed or what their final appearance was if so, so I had to pretty much make a guess. The object to the right is hardly visible in the screencaps, so I had to guess it's final shape as well.


Here are some up-close shots of the equipment:

According to the Phase II Flight Manual, this is supposed to be chemical analysis equipment, where chemical samples are placed inside each of the glass globes and analyzed. The helical object in the glass container is supposed to be a theremin-like control for the analysis.


And this is a spectroscope, where specimens are bombarded by different types of radiation for testing.