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The Flash - Season 1
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Maybe Cisco wouldn't notice, but you'd think Barry would have seen enough during all their fights to realize it was a similar kind of costume to what he was wearing. And of course the fact they both can run at superspeed and put off the same kind of electrical energy should be a pretty big tip off too.
That's what I thought too. If they weren't planning on using Thawne as the Reverse Flash, then why use Thawne as a character name at all?
Maybe because they have some story to tell that relies on the family connection between them. Maybe Eobard will play on that connection to turn Eddie to the dark side, or maybe Eddie will be repulsed that his descendant could go down that path and that conflict will drive his arc. Maybe Eobard is a descendant of Eddie and Iris and is trying to ensure they get married, i.e. that Barry loses her. There are lots of ways they could go with it. Family is a driving factor behind the majority of stories ever told.
The funny thing about names, when you show up in a new city, you can use what ever name you want. Especially if you are from another time, right Mr. Wells.
There is red & yellow blur and red & yellow lightning. The red lightning belongs to the Yellow blur and the yellow lightning belongs to the red blur.
That's what i think too...with the yellow blue being Kid Flash/Wally West. The Yellow Blue did "save" Barry.
Hmm....could Wells be a future Wally West who's gone off the deep rails a bit.
Here's a crazy thought -- Harrison wells is a "real" person who really did lose his wife at his old lab (in NY?). "Professor Zoom" came back, killed the real wells, and had surgery/future magic to make him into Wells, and took over Wells life, giving him plausibility to build StarLabs in Central City.
The mannequin was naked.
Then Wells pressed the Ring against an activator plate.
The yellow suit appeared.
1. The suit was invisible when not being used.
2. The suit was secured in a safe.
3. This is an older suit from uptimeline.
4. Wells "took" the Reverse Flash's suit and sucked it or pumped it, and put it back without the reverse Flash noticing.
Then Wells pressed the Ring against an activator plate.
The yellow suit appeared.
1. The suit was invisible when not being used.
2. The suit was secured in a safe.
3. This is an older suit from uptimeline.
4. Wells "took" the Reverse Flash's suit and sucked it or pumped it, and put it back without the reverse Flash noticing.
I assumed Wells was putting the suit back when he was done, after storing it in his ring. He probably doesn't want to wear the ring all the time (its kind of noticeable), and he doesn't really need it when he's not actively being the reverse Flash, so he probably stores the suit on the mannequin until he needs it. When he does, he loads it onto the ring. Its a fast way to get it on/remove it, and he can carry it around in a pocket or something if he thinks he needs to bring it with him. Just like what Barry did in the comics for a long time (minus the mannequin thing, but maybe he just likes having it there to look at, or if he needs to modify or repair it).
If Dr. Wells can store the suit in his ring as a transporter pattern, and then teleport it to where he needs it to be, including on himself, then Wells is a #### because that is exactly the tech he described as uninvented that was needed to separate Plastique from the bombshell casing that she had become molecularly bonded to.
Wells is playing this game with both hands tied behind his back, but there is going to come a point where he applies something obvious to an intellect from the 25th century, and Cisco is going to take a step back and say "Duuuuuuuuuude".
Harrison wants meta humans, not former metahumans. It would have been counter productive to his end game to lose a soldier. But then she died, so the problems of three metahumans don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world... Unless she didn't die?
Could The Reverse Flash, if he is Wells have been faking all the many meta human deaths during the course of season one? When building an army, it's not completely wise to let the enemy know too much about it's size or configuration.
Wells is playing this game with both hands tied behind his back, but there is going to come a point where he applies something obvious to an intellect from the 25th century, and Cisco is going to take a step back and say "Duuuuuuuuuude".
Harrison wants meta humans, not former metahumans. It would have been counter productive to his end game to lose a soldier. But then she died, so the problems of three metahumans don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world... Unless she didn't die?
Could The Reverse Flash, if he is Wells have been faking all the many meta human deaths during the course of season one? When building an army, it's not completely wise to let the enemy know too much about it's size or configuration.
No, they're not "fascists," because that would mean they're doing it out of ideology. Rather, they're doing it out of necessity because they don't see any other way these individuals can be contained. It's not their ideal, desired solution, just a necessary stopgap.
Also, if they were fascists, that would mean they wished to mobilize the entire nation under an authoritarian state built around militant ultranationalism, imperialism, and reverence and submission toward a strong leader. Fascism is a fundamentally public doctrine, built around subordinating one's nation to the absolute rule of the state and subordinating other nations to the military power of one's own nation. It is therefore contradictory to use the word "fascist" to refer to the practices of a small group seeking to hide their activities from the public.
Rather than fixating on that one word - Are you really arguing that private citizens who lock up other private citizens because *they* have decided that there is no other way isn't a human rights violation and wouldn't land all of them in prison?
Those people are being held in private cells with no access to legal redress, no access to their family members, it's not even clear they have access to books or any form of media. Even the simple act of keeping them in that small room on a long-term basis in those conditions would be a human rights violation.
Barry and the team would be looking at long term prison sentences.
Don't get me wrong, it's not something that particular bothers me as this is just a bit of fluff to pass an hour but it is telling that in American TV shows this sort of stuff just passes without any level of commentary by any of the characters.
My point is that they're doing this because they don't see a better alternative, not because it's their preference. Would you rather they just killed them? They're trying to cope with this unprecedented new situation in the best way they can, but they don't have a lot of good options. The existing penal system isn't equipped to cope with metahuman powers.
Granted, the ideal solution would be to come forward about metahumans and work with the legislature, courts, and penal system to imprison the metahumans in the Pipeline or comparable facilities after due process. But even if the series did go that route, it would take time to set up such a system, and the metahumans can't just be allowed to run around killing people while the legal system struggles to catch up to the new reality. Not to mention that a lot of people would blame Wells and STAR Labs for creating the situation i the first place, which would make it a lot harder for the STAR team to convince the police, legislature, or courts to cooperate with them on this.
So, no, I'm not saying that what they're doing is right. I'm saying, can you suggest a better alternative?
That it's not a perfect world and it's not upto them to decide the best solution, so they go to the authorities - that wouldn't mean that the cells would be turned off but there would be oversight. By your logic, they might decide that the best solution is to gas them to prevent an escape.
Think about this from the other perspective, we as the viewer have personal clarity and know what these people have done - but from an in-world perspective, none of these people have been arrested, tried or convicted - Barry and the gang are running a meta-human Gitmo.
We don't know that. As I said, the authorities would have little reason to trust Wells and STAR at this point -- and what if they demanded that the Flash be locked up along with all the others? Yes, official action is the best option in the long run, but it could take years for the law and the courts to get their act together, and something has to be done as a stopgap.
Wrong, and completely uncalled for, because my logic already includes the premise that they're looking for a better alternative to killing them. That was made explicit in the show itself -- that the reason they devised the Pipeline was because they didn't want to go on killing the bad guys. That was stated in actual onscreen dialogue and is thus axiomatic to this discussion.
Again, not because they want to, but because it's currently the only option they have other than killing. Perhaps over time, they will find a more appropriate solution, but at the moment they're stuck with this stopgap.
