So we know the scenario. Kruge, to show Kirk he means business, orders his men to kill Either David, Savvik, or teen Spock. The Klingon pulls his knife and circles around to their backs. He raises the knife to kill Savvik, but David turns his head slightly and sees what's coming out of the corner of his eye and he heroically jumps the Klingon to save her. Only the fight is over in about 10 seconds, David gets manhandled the whole time, doesn't land what could be described as a single good blow before they end up on the ground and he takes a knife full force in the chest.
Now from a reality perspective I realize this is how it would have pretty much played out. David had a very slight build, was obviously not very strong and was a scientist with no training or real experience in hand to hand combat. All of which is backed up by the fact Kirk kicked his ass pretty handily in TWOK. The Klingon of course is bigger, stronger and a trained warrior. So on paper it's a pretty clear cut outcome.
But movies aren't reality. Thanks to the show Alias we now live in world where 100 pound women, like Jennifer Garner and Scarlett Johannson who posses no superpowers like Wonder Woman, regularly kick the shit out of trained male fighters, often taking on several at once, who are at least twice as big and probably 4 or 5 times as strong and these women are able to do so because their "special training and skills" and things like size and strength play no factor in these fights.
So with that in mind do you think the makers of the film should have let David die after putting up at least some what of a fight? I'm not saying it had to be something ridiculous like a 5 minute Kirk style brawl or that David actually was winning against the Klingon and the second one had to step and kill David. But personally I think it would have been nice to see David put up a decent struggle andd land at least a few good blows and maybe appear for a few seconds like he he might have a chance instead of getting totally creamed like he did. After all was basically a good character. He loved his mother, bonded with Kirk at the end of TWOK, and he did sacrifice himself to save Savvik. Yes he did a bad thing in using protomatter but that doesn't mean he was a bad guy.
I know he wasn't an indispensible character or anything of that nature, but I think he did enough to have at least a little emotional connection with a lot of the ST audience and I would have liked to see him get to make more of a stronger last stand than getting wasted so easily. Especially after Kruge had referred to him as a weakling human, it would have been nice for him to prove Kruge wrong that, even though he doesn't win, he shows that he isn't a weakling. The way he died totally affirmed that Kruge was correct in his insult.
Oh well just my two cents. Shame that in real life he died young as well.
Now from a reality perspective I realize this is how it would have pretty much played out. David had a very slight build, was obviously not very strong and was a scientist with no training or real experience in hand to hand combat. All of which is backed up by the fact Kirk kicked his ass pretty handily in TWOK. The Klingon of course is bigger, stronger and a trained warrior. So on paper it's a pretty clear cut outcome.
But movies aren't reality. Thanks to the show Alias we now live in world where 100 pound women, like Jennifer Garner and Scarlett Johannson who posses no superpowers like Wonder Woman, regularly kick the shit out of trained male fighters, often taking on several at once, who are at least twice as big and probably 4 or 5 times as strong and these women are able to do so because their "special training and skills" and things like size and strength play no factor in these fights.
So with that in mind do you think the makers of the film should have let David die after putting up at least some what of a fight? I'm not saying it had to be something ridiculous like a 5 minute Kirk style brawl or that David actually was winning against the Klingon and the second one had to step and kill David. But personally I think it would have been nice to see David put up a decent struggle andd land at least a few good blows and maybe appear for a few seconds like he he might have a chance instead of getting totally creamed like he did. After all was basically a good character. He loved his mother, bonded with Kirk at the end of TWOK, and he did sacrifice himself to save Savvik. Yes he did a bad thing in using protomatter but that doesn't mean he was a bad guy.
I know he wasn't an indispensible character or anything of that nature, but I think he did enough to have at least a little emotional connection with a lot of the ST audience and I would have liked to see him get to make more of a stronger last stand than getting wasted so easily. Especially after Kruge had referred to him as a weakling human, it would have been nice for him to prove Kruge wrong that, even though he doesn't win, he shows that he isn't a weakling. The way he died totally affirmed that Kruge was correct in his insult.
Oh well just my two cents. Shame that in real life he died young as well.
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