The Flash - Season 1
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Hmmmm. Forgotabout that. 
I actually thought he was more like Cole MacGrath from inFamous. The comics based on that game were also published by DC.
The one thing that nobody seemed worried about when they talked about jump-starting Barry's powers: Didn't the first lightning bolt put him in a coma for months?
"Hey, let's recreate the accident that gave you your powers. Then, when you come to in six months, you can save us!"
Yeah, yeah, you can rationalize it away with some comic-book science, but I was surprised that nobody even brought it up.
"Um, didn't this put me in a coma last time?"
"Hey, let's recreate the accident that gave you your powers. Then, when you come to in six months, you can save us!"
Yeah, yeah, you can rationalize it away with some comic-book science, but I was surprised that nobody even brought it up.
"Um, didn't this put me in a coma last time?"
Also Grant Emerson, the tragic hero Damage of the previous DCU.
My hope for Ralph Dibny is that he becomes a recurring character that pops up whenever the Flash needs an assist from a twitchy-nosed detective and omits the Elongated Man shtick from his résumé. That way, we still get the Silver Age team-up aspect without the silly hero persona bouncing at Barry's side.
I think it can be hand-waved with Wells' line about Barry's cells being primed, but yeah, it did seem a bit odd that it wasn't directly addressed as a concern.
^I had the same thought too.
I really enjoyed the episode. Blackout was a cool villain, and even though the superpowered hero loses his powers is a cliched story, I thought they managed to do it really well. I also enjoyed the secondary story with Clock King, and I was surprised they brought back Girder, I was not expecting that.
As for the end, I'm pretty sure that Wells was trying taking Blackout's blood to see how he stole Barry's powers.
I was kind of surprised to see that what is happening now actually changed the future that Wells has been getting information from. I'm curious if there was a timeline where he didn't come back and things played out differently.
I really enjoyed the episode. Blackout was a cool villain, and even though the superpowered hero loses his powers is a cliched story, I thought they managed to do it really well. I also enjoyed the secondary story with Clock King, and I was surprised they brought back Girder, I was not expecting that.
As for the end, I'm pretty sure that Wells was trying taking Blackout's blood to see how he stole Barry's powers.
I was kind of surprised to see that what is happening now actually changed the future that Wells has been getting information from. I'm curious if there was a timeline where he didn't come back and things played out differently.
Well, even a cliched idea can be good if there's a meaningful point to it. And there was here, because it illustrated how much Barry cares about helping people, and that's his most appealing quality. There are so many film/TV heroes who are driven by personal tragedy or revenge, so that it's ultimately more self-directed than genuinely altruistic. The Flash has had this silly "Reverse Flash killed my mother" backstory tacked onto his origin in recent years in a totally unnecessary attempt to make him just another angst-driven hero, but while the show has included that as a thread, it wisely hasn't made it Barry's primary motivation for being a hero. It was his motivation for being interested in the weird, but since he's gotten his powers, his greater altruism has come to the fore, and it's wise of the writers to focus on that. Even the arc about his mother's murder is more about helping his father than about getting revenge on the killer. And here, when he lost his powers, his reaction wasn't "Oh, now I'll never avenge my mother," it was "I'm bummed that I can't help make life better for total strangers." And that's so refreshing, to see a hero whose heroism is an end in itself rather than a side effect of whatever angsty personal quest they're on.
Nice bit of inter-series continuity there. We've had hero crossovers, now there's a villain crossover. (And I'm sure that a certain boomerang-wielding bad guy who showed up in the tag of last week's Arrow episode will wend his way to The Flash eventually.) And it was nice to see Iris get to be a self-rescuing damsel -- another positive benefit that made the "cliched" premise worth doing.
I wasn't expecting it so soon, but once he did show up, I knew right away that he probably wouldn't survive. Historically, learning the hero's secret identity is not good for a villain's life expectancy.
I'm actually not entirely convinced that Wells is from the future. Sure, he has dropped hints about waiting centuries or something, but his behavior here in particular suggests that he's a man from the present who's gained knowledge of the future and who's determined to bring that future about. Maybe he knows from the newspaper that the Flash is the one who resolves the Crisis, and therefore needs to exist. (Although the problem there is that when the newspaper's main article changed, the article below it about the red skies vanishing -- i.e. the Crisis ending -- remained unchanged. But that could've been a production error.)
Compounded by the more immediate fact that Wells let Girder see him walking.
I have access to pause and rewind technology.
04:12 Flash Missing: Vanishes in Crisis. Wayne tech/Queen Inc Merger Complete. Red Skies Vanish. Woolly Mammoth charms at zoo.
12.12 Return to sender: US Post Office Shuts down permanently. Wayne tech/Queen Inc Merger falls through. Carla the Woolly Mammoth Charms at Zoo. Red Skies Threaten.
40:24. Flash Missing: Vanishes in Crisis. Wayne tech/Queen Inc Merger Complete. Red Skies Vanish
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At some point the Newspaper may have said in another episode that the woolly mammoth charged people at the zoo, but the person on google who said that admits that they were squinting, but I'm kinda %50 percent that I saw the same thing.
Okay here's the thing about the Mammoth... Holes/Portals in time might be rending open and the mammoth was not part of a cloning experiment, but they caught after it walked through a portal, which is a known aspect of the Crisis.
If Mammoths can accidentally walk between centuries, why not then a man?
Good theory about Metron. It makes a lot of sense and would also give an excuse for his behavior.
Does anybody have a full list of the names that Wells rattles off?
Does anybody have a full list of the names that Wells rattles off?
Al Rothstien = Atom Smasher
Ralph Dibney = Elongated Man
Jake Davenport = Farooq/Blackout's Friend
Daria Kim = Farooq/Blackout's Friend
Grant Emmerson = Damage
Will Everette = Amazing Man.
Beau Dacosta = Fire/The Green Flame
Ronnie Raymond = Fire Storm
Ralph Dibney = Elongated Man
Jake Davenport = Farooq/Blackout's Friend
Daria Kim = Farooq/Blackout's Friend
Grant Emmerson = Damage
Will Everette = Amazing Man.
Beau Dacosta = Fire/The Green Flame
Ronnie Raymond = Fire Storm
Anthro!
Bring Wildcat over from Arrow and Jay from Keystone and we have a Justice Society series.
I have a couple of possibilities for Wells other than Metron:
It is possible that he is someone connected directly with the Crisis, I was thining. A Pariah type character.
It is also possible he is from Earth 2 and escaped the Crisis on that Earth. This could be a good parallel to what is happening in the new 52.
And Jim Corrigan from CONSTANTINE.
& Maybe an alien???
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=253543&page=19
ETA: I am having technical difficulty! LOL!!!
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=253543&page=19
ETA: I am having technical difficulty! LOL!!!
You know that Supergirl dies in the Crisis right?
Wells is obsessed by the Crisis, so maybe his first interest was saving Supergirl, which could have been how everything started to spin out of control?
Wells is obsessed by the Crisis, so maybe his first interest was saving Supergirl, which could have been how everything started to spin out of control?
You know that Supergirl dies in the Crisis right?
Wells is obsessed by the Crisis, so maybe his first interest was saving Supergirl, which could have been how everything started to spin out of control?
Then he would be interested in that. Barry dies four issues later (or is it three?).
That would make him...Brainiac 5!
No, Brainy wouldn't just kill people. Also, his ego would be too big to play dumb (as Wells is compared to Brainiac 5).
