Would Nolan have made a great Star Trek Film

[xavier]

Nolan is viewed by many as one of the greatest director of this era, I personally find him overrated.

Looking at his films such as The dark knight, the dark knight rises, batman begins, memento, inception, the prestige and interstellar. All I can say is the idea of Nolan directing star trek would be a 50% yes and 50% no and here is why:

Advantages of A Nolan Trek film.

1. focused story

2. story not been second to the action scenes and visual effects

3.lots of character interaction

4. critics and male movie fans going easy on the film when it time for reviews.

5. Huge Box office potential


6. good research effort on real science and how it works well with science fiction or science fantasy


Disadvantages of A Nolan Trek film

1. bland and annoying characters with about only 1 or 2 standing out and been likeable

2. awful romantic story telling

3. forgettable to weak female characters

4. everything is taken way to seriously and no light hearted or fun moments

5. forgettable action sequences



So this is why I give it a 50/50 when I think of Nolan as a director of a trek film.

what is even more interesting is that there were many star wars fans who never wanted him to direct episode 7 because they believed he did not fit star wars at all and I very much agree. However I think he partially fits star trek and Interstellar is prove.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Nolans ST09:

Kirk - Leo Dicaprio
Spock - Christian Bale
Bones - Guy Pearce
Scotty - Gary Oldman
Sulu - Ken Wantanabe?
Chekov - Joseph Gordon Levvit
Uhura - ??
Pike - Aaron Eckhart
Nero - Liam Neeson
Sarek - Michael Caine
Amanda - Marion Colltard
George Kirk - Matt Damon
Winona Kirk - Ann Hathaway

 

[Cyke101]

Nolan is viewed by many as one of the greatest director of this era, I personally find him overrated.

...who said that he was today's greatest director? Honest question here. I like him and his body of work for the most part, but that's one heck of a statement to make, one I've not heard any critic or publication declare.

 

[xavier]

Nolans ST09:

Kirk - Leo Dicaprio
Spock - Christian Bale
Bones - Guy Pearce
Scotty - Gary Oldman
Sulu - Ken Wantanabe?
Chekov - Joseph Gordon Levvit
Uhura - ??
Pike - Aaron Eckhart
Nero - Liam Neeson
Sarek - Michael Caine
Amanda - Marion Colltard
George Kirk - Matt Damon
Winona Kirk - Ann Hathaway

the fact that you give uhura a question marks proves one of the legitimate criticism of Nolan films. his female character are usually forgettable or weak.

 

[Relayer1]

Nolan is viewed by many as one of the greatest director of this era, I personally find him overrated.

That's putting it mildly. A couple of decent films (and some very poor ones) does not greatness make.

People act as if I am mad saying that. Especially when I repeat it about Spielberg...

 

[Tom Servo]

Nolan is viewed by many as one of the greatest director of this era, I personally find him overrated.

That's putting it mildly. A couple of decent films (and some very poor ones) does not greatness make.

People act as if I am mad saying that. Especially when I repeat it about Spielberg...

While he's lost a bit of his fastball recently, I can say comfortably that Spielberg will be remembered as one of the greats. I'll defend that to the death.

 

[M'Sharak]

Nolan is viewed by many as one of the greatest director of this era...

He is? How many is "many," and who are they? How many people who regularly watch/critique movies which are not genre films would even recognize his name?

 

[Dukhat]

I'm not sure how Nolan would have done anything differently than Abrams did.

 

[Cyke101]

I'm not sure how Nolan would have done anything differently than Abrams did.

Probably would have brought in Hans Zimmer and, by extension, completely disregard the Alexander Courage theme outright in favor of a lot of synthetic drumming to "distinguish" it from past Trek.

 

[Set Harth]

everything is taken way to seriously and no light hearted or fun moments

Anyone who paid attention to the cited films would find this statement to be inaccurate.

 

[Malaika]

He'd end it all with Spock as a captain and probably add 150% more manpain by killing Uhura and someone close to Kirk. I bet he loved the first movie..

Anyway, that's a bit like asking if Kubrick would make a good trek movie...
Nolan is great in his genre but not for everyone. Some might find his movies too cryptic but that's why I love him lol
He loves to play with the audience and leave people wondering if they got some things right (inception and the prestige endings coming to mind) but I wouldn't want to feel like that after a trek movie. I prefer JJ vision( I wouldn't have minded if he co wrote the script either)

Back to Nolan, I loved his batman as well as the prestige and inception. Had not watched the last one. Yes, female characters and romance are not one of his qualities (though, to be fair, I found the one from Inception moving even if so tragic)
...he doesn't seem to care about diverse casting either.
He is a one man show (or two, one rival of the other)
I don't think he'd be the right dude for trek because this franchise wouldn't give him what he wants in his movies so he'd either change the tone so much that even reboot haters would miss JJ, lol, or he'd end up making a movie that doesn't look like one of his movies.

 

[xavier]

I'm not sure how Nolan would have done anything differently than Abrams did.

he would have. no way is nolan going to...

1. put a woman stripping down for no reason in his film like carol

2. neither will he directly lift scenes from old films like into darkness did wrath of khan.


5. he would also never allow the action to overtake the drama like jj did with into darkness.

 

[Khan 2.0]

STID:
Carol - Jessica Chastain
Khan - nestor carbonell

 

[The Wormhole]

Disadvantages of A Nolan Trek film

1. bland and annoying characters with about only 1 or 2 standing out and been likeable

2. awful romantic story telling

3. forgettable to weak female characters

4. everything is taken way to seriously and no light hearted or fun moments

5. forgettable action sequences

When you put it that way, he would have been the perfect for Berman era.

Hey, I like Berman era, but I'm not blind to its flaws.

 

[F. King Daniel]

2. neither will he directly lift scenes from old films like into darkness did wrath of khan.

Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy had a few massive repeats, like Thomas and Martha Wayne's shooting in Batman Begins, and the scene from The Dark Knight, where Batman almost runs down The Joker, which is almost identical to the one in 1989's Batman (with a plane swapped for a motorbike)

5. he would also never allow the action to overtake the drama like jj did with into darkness.

It didn't. The characters and emotions were the core of ID, not the 'splosions.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

2. neither will he directly lift scenes from old films like into darkness did wrath of khan.

Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy had a few massive repeats, like Thomas and Martha Wayne's shooting in Batman Begins, ...

But that's the pivotal moment that defines Bruce Wayne / Batman. You can't claim Nolan "lifted" that from a previous version. It's like saying all incarnations of the Hulk "lifted" from each other because they contained a scene where Bruce Banner's DNA is altered by radiation.

and the scene from The Dark Knight, where Batman almost runs down The Joker, which is almost identical to the one in 1989's Batman (with a plane swapped for a motorbike)

Again, not a "lift".

 

[DWF]

I'm not sure how Nolan would have done anything differently than Abrams did.

There'd be less lense flair and of course Michael Caine.

 

[Set Harth]

Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy had a few massive repeats, like Thomas and Martha Wayne's shooting in Batman Begins

Isn't the killing of the Waynes a core component of the Batman mythology? As such it doesn't seem like Nolan copying the 1989 film specifically.

 

[Cinema Geekly]

Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy had a few massive repeats, like Thomas and Martha Wayne's shooting in Batman Begins

Isn't the killing of the Waynes a core component of the Batman mythology? As such it doesn't seem like Nolan copying the 1989 film specifically.

Given that Star Trek does not have nearly the number of stories and retelling of Batman.....putting it on a sliding scale....

I'd say the Spock death scene in WOK is just as important to Trek lore as Bruce's parents biting it.

 

[F. King Daniel]

2. neither will he directly lift scenes from old films like into darkness did wrath of khan.

Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy had a few massive repeats, like Thomas and Martha Wayne's shooting in Batman Begins, ...

But that's the pivotal moment that defines Bruce Wayne / Batman. You can't claim Nolan "lifted" that from a previous version. It's like saying all incarnations of the Hulk "lifted" from each other because they contained a scene where Bruce Banner's DNA is altered by radiation.

Compare with Man of Steel, which retold Superman's origins on Krypton, but massively changed the setting and characters from those in Superman: The Movie and Superman II. Bruce Wayne's parents' death could have been similarly altered but weren't. Identity of the killer aside, it could have been the same scene.

and the scene from The Dark Knight, where Batman almost runs down The Joker, which is almost identical to the one in 1989's Batman (with a plane swapped for a motorbike)

Again, not a "lift".

By that standard, Into Darkness isn't a "lift", either.