TOS: Foul Deeds Will Rise by Greg Cox Review Thread (Spoilers!)
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Federation: The First 150 Years conflicts with the novel continuity in many ways. It isn't binding on the novelverse, so it's beside the point here.
I recall the inconsistencies now, but there's nothing that can't be reconciled. Easy enough to assume that Klingon politicians can have career setbacks and recoveries, even granted that most Klingon career setbacks are fatal.
That's a shame...Honestly, not a big effort. I did a bit of homework to see what had already been done in that era (and even picked Christopher's brain a bit regarding the novels), but the main thing I picked up from the earlier novels was the idea that Kevin Riley eventually became a Starfleet ambassador.Was there any effort to incorporate elements of/references to those DC Comics?
Considering how much of a role they played in my becoming a hardcore Star Trek fan, I know what I'd like the answer to be.
I can understand not trying to incorporate the initial DC Comics run (it has too much of what I'll call "Konom Baggage" attached to it), but the second run shouldn't have any similarly problematic elements (IMO), and it would be nice to see this era get the same sort of unified-continuity approach that other eras have gotten in the current novelverse.
Well, there are some continuity concerns with the early issues in Volume 2. Peter David's run and one or two of Howard Weinstein's stories following up on them include a Klingon emperor, something that TNG's "Rightful Heir" says the Klingons hadn't had since the 21st century. Although that's not necessarily irreconcilable, given what TNG also established about Klingon chancellors rewriting their history. Maybe there was an emperor at the time who got written out of the history books later.
^I just thought of something. Do you suppose that when Martok became chancellor, he erased all records of Kor's existence?
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Doubtful, Kor sacrificed his life for Martok and Martok wouldn't disrepect the memory of someone who did that, regardless their past.
No worries. We all have to set our priorities.
I doubt it. In A Good Day to Die, set in ~June 2376, the Hall of Warriors contains a prominent statue of Kor.
Questions of Klingon and Romulan governance seem to be a common source of discontinuity, as we're seeing in multiple threads around here...
Having said that, if all you need to do in this case is squint and pretend they said "Chancellor" instead of "Emperor" (he doesn't get named, after all, IIRC), then that doesn't seem like a difficult problem to overcome.
Fortunately, there are no Klingons or Romulans in this book!
Basically this is a sequel to "Conscience of the King." It just happens to be set in the Movie Era because that suited the needs of the plot, but my main goal was to write a story about Kirk and Lenore Karidian, not to explore the Movie Era, so there was no need to include Saavik or stuff from the comics because that wasn't what the book was about.
Or so I figured at least.
Basically this is a sequel to "Conscience of the King." It just happens to be set in the Movie Era because that suited the needs of the plot, but my main goal was to write a story about Kirk and Lenore Karidian, not to explore the Movie Era, so there was no need to include Saavik or stuff from the comics because that wasn't what the book was about.
Or so I figured at least.
I totally get that--and I still look forward to reading it.
I just thought I'd ask about the continuity end of things, especially since you have a history of drawing together disparate continuity elements in your work; and as a big fan of the Movie Era, I still hope (in a generalised way) to see work in the future that explores its nooks and crannies.
Or maybe he was a chancellor who insisted on being called "Emperor," but whose claim to the title was rejected by later historians.
That might be plausible. I think your prior comment about high councillor setbacks being fatal might eliminate that as an option. Rewriting history is something I can see.
I'm in the same boat as you. I haven't read In The Name Of Honor either (of course I haven't been able to find a copy yet to read---but there's always someday). Of course I still have to pick up my copy of Foul Deeds Will Rise. Bookstore emailed Tuesday to say that it was in, but I just haven't had a chance to pick it up.
But I did read the novelization of The Final Frontier there about 2 years ago, but Riley, aside from The Lost Years books, and I recall one of William Shatner's books delved into what occurred with Kirk and Riley in their kid years, what other books deal with Riley as a diplomat or even as a kid?
The Lost Years and Probe.
Okay, I remember Probe now. And I remember that it was in Avenger that Shatner delved into Kirk-Riley's past. Plus according to Memory Beta, another book to cover that period was Recovery, also part of the Lost Years series.
In The Name of Honor is available in all of the major e-book formats. At this point, I think there are only a small handful of Star Trek books that aren't available as e-books.
Looked for a copy at B&M and failed.
In theory, it officially goes on sale next week. Thanks for trying, though!
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