The World of Star Trek
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"Rawhide?"
And there are probably people right on this very Board who would add "Rowdy Yates" to that list of prime filet,
Meh. No other casting directors will consider him until he does something about that Adam's Apple.
Without going back and finding it in the book, I think Gerrold must have meant he prefers sci-fi novels over ST.
You've never heard that story told by Clint Eastwood? I'm shocked.
^ first I've heard of it.
Was it in "World of Star Trek" or in "Making of 'The Trouble With Tribbles'" in which Gerrold complained about "Lost in Space" airing for "five years, five achingly long years"? I definitely recall the "achingly long" qualifier. It confused me when I finally got the issue of StarLog that included an episode guide for the Irwin Allen series. That article stated "...Space" aired for just three seasons (read: years) with 80 something episodes, not that many more than Trek. But, but...? Gerrold said it was on five years. Surely he couldn't be wrong?
Now, I certainly enjoyed Gerrold's prose as it was usually quite pithy. But looking back, I now realize he had some opinions about certain matters that affected the accuracy of his claims. I forgot his adoration for Roddenberry. Maybe in the early 70s he was still hoping to work with the producer on his next "big" project. If it weren't for the ongoing legal battles concerning "Next Gen" that required a bit of "silence" from all involved parties, I suspect David would have written very different opinions about Roddenberry.
Thanks for reminding me about his infamous "Klingons fart in airlocks" description! I literally had not thought of that line for a decade, maybe two! Now I'm snickering like lunatic at my desk and co-workers are giving me strange looks!
Sincerely,
Bill
Now, I certainly enjoyed Gerrold's prose as it was usually quite pithy. But looking back, I now realize he had some opinions about certain matters that affected the accuracy of his claims. I forgot his adoration for Roddenberry. Maybe in the early 70s he was still hoping to work with the producer on his next "big" project. If it weren't for the ongoing legal battles concerning "Next Gen" that required a bit of "silence" from all involved parties, I suspect David would have written very different opinions about Roddenberry.
Thanks for reminding me about his infamous "Klingons fart in airlocks" description! I literally had not thought of that line for a decade, maybe two! Now I'm snickering like lunatic at my desk and co-workers are giving me strange looks!
Sincerely,
Bill
For all the book's faults it does fairly point out some of the sillier things about the show, and it's right on the money about the difference between the show's "format" and the "formula" it frequently lapsed into. And, hey, "Klingons pick on old ladies. Klingons fart in airlocks," was damned funny to me at age 11.
I was about the same age when I read "The World of Star Trek" and was quite amused by the "Klingons fart in airlocks" line. It still makes me chuckle forty years later.
Yes, I think that was basically what he was saying.
If Gerrold said that, then yes, he was wrong. And stop calling me Shirley.
Maybe Lost in Space was so painful to him, that the three years seemed like five?
Back in the 70s (before TMP) almost everyone was into Roddenberry worship. After Gerrold got burned during the TNG pre-production (leading to a lawsuit) he wasn't worshipful at all any more.
Back in the 70s (before TMP) almost everyone was into Roddenberry worship. After Gerrold got burned during the TNG pre-production (leading to a lawsuit) he wasn't worshipful at all any more.
Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds both tell it, as it was a conversation they had after seeing a casting director about a role some time in the '60s. As the story goes, the casting director told Reynolds he was a bad actor, and Eastwood that his Adam's Apple was too big for either of them to ever be considered as leading men. As they walked out of his office, Reynolds laughed at Eastwood, and said, "Hey, I can always take acting lessons. You'll never be able to do anything about that Adam's Apple."
Cut to the '90s, when they really started talking about their long-standing friendship dating back to when they were both on westerns on TV, and they laugh about the "limitations" their acting and physical attributes have placed on their careers.
Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds both tell it, as it was a conversation they had after seeing a casting director about a role some time in the '60s. As the story goes, the casting director told Reynolds he was a bad actor, and Eastwood that his Adam's Apple was too big for either of them to ever be considered as leading men. As they walked out of his office, Reynolds laughed at Eastwood, and said, "Hey, I can always take acting lessons. You'll never be able to do anything about that Adam's Apple."
Cut to the '90s, when they really started talking about their long-standing friendship dating back to when they were both on westerns on TV, and they laugh about the "limitations" their acting and physical attributes have placed on their careers.
Now THAT is one funny and good story! Thanks for sharing!
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IIRC one point Gerrold brings up in The World of Star Trek became a signature change when TNG was launched- the Away Teams. He though it was stupid-dangerous to have the Captain of the vessel beam down all the time into unknown situations, he likened it to what would happen in today's Navy if the Captain of an aircraft carrier marched on shore with the recon. Riker's first conversation with Picard brings up this issue and it is something which does make sense.
Thats if you regard Picard as equivalent to the Captain of an aircraft carrier. I regard Starship captains as explorers like Columbus, Captain Cook, Neil Armstrong. Those Captains didn't cower aboard ship when discovering America or Australia or the Moon, did they?
OK Neil Armstrong didn't discover the moon but he really wanted to be the first in the "Away Team"
Well said! If GR had been told that when he was setting up TNG, it would have blown away Gerrold's Navy analogy and its effect on Picard.
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