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The Walking Dead Season 5

"Come on out."

That was a weird hook.

...and no Carol--so far.

I think Daryl:

1. Says "come on out" to yet another Termite--who took Daryl prisoner.

2. Beth was rescued...but something happened to Carol.

3. Daryl loses Beth and Carol--but runs into Morgan.

4. Daryl meets someone who will be the next big bad for season 5.

Theories?
 
"Come on out."

That was a weird hook.

...and no Carol--so far.

I think Daryl:

1. Says "come on out" to yet another Termite--who took Daryl prisoner.

2. Beth was rescued...but something happened to Carol.

3. Daryl loses Beth and Carol--but runs into Morgan.

4. Daryl meets someone who will be the next big bad for season 5.

Theories?

5. He and Carol rescued more people than just Beth.
 
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Well, I wonder what happened to Beth and Carol? (Though, I suspect at least Beth is okay as it seems indicated from stuff I seen she's a surviving character for now.)

I'm surprised Gareth is gone already! I thought his character was going to be more of a threat and around until at least the mid-season finale!

Brutal killing of the Termites but they deserved it.

Good seeing some bit of comradery between Abraham and Rick, though I wish Abraham had deferred to Rick's "command" and not taken Rick's people from him. Or that Eugene had stepped up more to assert that they stay until Rick is ready to leave/wehn Daryl returns. Shit, they're weaker without Daryl!

Now this just means group is broken up again. Ugh.

I do wonder if the "tainted meat" from Bob would have mattered given everyone is already is infected and that a bitten person doesn't die from the "zombie disease" but just from a severe infection from the diseases present in the walkers' mouths. So in that sense cooking the meat fully would clear out the infection. But the meat looked to be cooked medium or medium rare which isn't enough to cook out all possible pathogens in the meat.

Not surprised to see Bob go, as we were talking about last week it seemed pretty telegraphed he'd been bitten in the food pantry.

With the roughly two-day jump between the first night when Dary/Carol took off and the end of the episode I figured Daryl would show up at the end and the next episode would be a flashback to what happened with those characters while all this was going on.

Next week with Beth looks like it should be interesting.

And Chloe on "Talking Dead" looks damn good! Amazing how much different a person can look when they're not "in character" especially given the differences between Mary Lynn and Chloe.

Good episode and the Terminus/Cannibals storyline I guess is officially over so time to move on the Alexandera Safe Zone storyline!

Once next week's Beth sub-story is done I hope the group is reunited quickly enough so we're not jumping between Abraham/Glenn/Maggie and Rick's group.
 
I don't think it would be Carol in the bushes unless there was something really wrong with her. It's going to be a reveal of some sort. Either Beth or Morgan would be a reveal, but I have reservations about those.

Beth seems like it would be too quick for that to happen. How much time really elapsed there anyways?

Morgan doesn't know Daryl or Carol, so I don't know how all of that would come about.

It could be that he finds the driver of the car with the cross, and that's who it is. I don't know what that means for Carol though or why he didn't return in a car.

I do wonder if the "tainted meat" from Bob would have mattered given everyone is already is infected and that a bitten person doesn't die from the "zombie disease" but just from a severe infection from the diseases present in the walkers' mouths. So in that sense cooking the meat fully would clear out the infection. But the meat looked to be cooked medium or medium rare which isn't enough to cook out all possible pathogens in the meat.

If the infectious agent were perhaps a prion, like in mad cow disease, it's possible it couldn't be cooked out. But yeah, the workings of infection are anomalous. Perhaps it's best that way.
 
Morgan doesn't know Daryl or Carol, so I don't know how all of that would come about.

If I'm not mistaken the show-runners have said that Morgan encountered the "No Sanctuary" sign "months" after Rick and co. passed it. So the person hiding in the woods isn't Morgan, it's just likely the moment was a tension sting and the person in the woods is just Beth. She was announced as being on Talking Dead next week so that means the episode obviously centers around her and she likely survives.
 
I don't think it would be Carol in the bushes unless there was something really wrong with her. It's going to be a reveal of some sort. Either Beth or Morgan would be a reveal, but I have reservations about those.

It could be Beth, but if that's the case, why would Daryl be cautious before spotting Michonne? Did he notice the bus missing and thought his crew left the church?

If it is Beth, was she apprehensive because Gabriel (or others) took her to the church (where she experienced something terrible) before moving on to her current location?

Also note her wrists are bandaged....

Bites? Suicide attempt?

Beth seems like it would be too quick for that to happen. How much time really elapsed there anyways?
Since escaping Terminus? I'm just guessing, but it seemed to be three days.

Day 1: Rick's group leaves Terminus and spent a night in the woods.

Day 2: They met Gabriel in the morning or afternoon (including the trip to the food bank), and camped there overnight, when Bob was kidnapped / Daryl & Carol took off. The night was long, so the Terminus conflict covers that, until...

Day 3: The next morning - Bob's death, burial, and Abraham's group leaving. That evening, Daryl returns.



It could be that he finds the driver of the car with the cross, and that's who it is. I don't know what that means for Carol though or why he didn't return in a car.

Was the cross-marked car bait, and Daryl managed to escape? Is it a case of Beth being rescued, but Carol--still feeling she is an outcast--leaves?

I do wonder if the "tainted meat" from Bob would have mattered given everyone is already is infected and that a bitten person doesn't die from the "zombie disease" but just from a severe infection from the diseases present in the walkers' mouths. So in that sense cooking the meat fully would clear out the infection. But the meat looked to be cooked medium or medium rare which isn't enough to cook out all possible pathogens in the meat.

It matters, since the Terminus group immediately spit out Bob's flesh, while Gareth offered some flimsy cooking theory. For the Terminus members to react so fearfully suggests they had deadly experiences with people eating tainted flesh in the past.
 
The more I think about it, the more it seems like it's not a character we know at all yet. The reason the person didn't come out with Daryl is because they would be unknown to Rick's group, and could therefore cause tension.

I am going to say that it's the driver of the car with the cross, or someone from the hospital that Beth is at. I'm guessing the story isn't going to start right off from where we left off. There's probably going to be a lot of back story of what happened to Beth, and in that story we will meet whoever Daryl has. The reveal may not even come next week. The story might go over more than one episode.
 
So far, Season 5 is gearing up to be the best so far.

Usually, after an action-centric season opener, the pacing drops significantly as the group wallows in their sorrows and what-have-you and we get a bit of filler. Now, it seems like everything is ramped up.

I just hope nothing happens to Sasha (she's cute and is my favorite character...lol).
 
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I really like what they are doing with Tyreese. Making him a very complicated character and Chad Coleman's performance is outstanding. He says so much with just a look.
 
I suspect Daryl has rescued someone from the car, who was abducted like Beth. It feels like it's been too soon for him to have rescued Beth and whoever else is at this hospital looking place with her. Beth's wrist bandages were holding in a needle, which she brandished as a weapon. It could've been talking blood to test for infection, but what I hope is that it is someone trying to use her blood for transfusions, in an attempt to save someone infected. That might be cool. Haven't seen anyone trying to treat the infected yet.
 
I really like what they are doing with Tyreese. Making him a very complicated character and Chad Coleman's performance is outstanding. He says so much with just a look.

Agreed. At times I feel like some of the actors on the show tend to overact a bit, Coleman is more subtle and yet full of emotion.
 
Morgan doesn't know Daryl or Carol, so I don't know how all of that would come about.

If I'm not mistaken the show-runners have said that Morgan encountered the "No Sanctuary" sign "months" after Rick and co. passed it. So the person hiding in the woods isn't Morgan, it's just likely the moment was a tension sting and the person in the woods is just Beth. She was announced as being on Talking Dead next week so that means the episode obviously centers around her and she likely survives.

I wouldn't be so sure about the "most likely survives" part of your post. This show has a long history of killing a character almost immediately after they start to develop that character. A Beth-centic episode followed by an appearance on Chris Hardwick's "Couch of Death" is never a good sign for the actor in question!
 
group immediately spit out Bob's flesh, while Gareth offered some flimsy cooking theory. For the Terminus members to react so fearfully suggests they had deadly experiences with people eating tainted flesh in the past.

Which makes sense, except for the part where they were acting confused and asking what would happen, and Gareth's "we cooked it" explanation seemed to be pulled out of his ass.

In regards to why Daryl was cautious about calling whomever was in the woods out, I still call into play the "it makes a good cliffhanger" card. Remember, we are watching a TV show here so characters do odd or dumb things from time to time for the sake of the show's drama. (Like making the decision to not go back to finish off the Termites, or apparently not having a regrouping contingency plan in the case of the prison falling.)

Daryl could have been scouting out the area to make sure it was safe, probably hearing the gun-fire from the church's area and suspecting something was up. He scouts it out, sees Michonne, deems the coast clear and calls whomever is in the woods out.

It's very likely not Morgan. Not only does Daryl not know who Morgan is nor does Morgan know who Daryl is, but the show-runners have said the appearance of Morgan in the sting after the opening episode took place "months" after the events of the episode. (Noticeable due to the increased growth of the local foliage and the Termites' tracking mark.) I'm guessing Morgan follows the tracking marks and gets to the church, long after everyone has left, and finds some clues, likely the map Abraham gave Rick which, note, had his full name on it. So Rick likely memorizes the route on the map and they head off, the map just getting left behind. Rick and our group meets back up with Abraham/Glenn/Maggie then Morgan shows up at the church months later, finds the map, and heads off as well.

I doubt the person(s) in the woods are other survivors found by Daryl along the way. It's unlikely he'd take in more survivors as they don't really have the facilities to take in more people and their trust has been stressed lately.

Show runners have hinted that they're not done with Beth's character and she's, pretty openly, on Talking Dead next week which may suggest she at least survives the episode. (Mostly in the past when someone dies in an episode the special guest isn't revealed in the Talking Dead tease for the following week. Instead we're told it's a special guest.)

I also doubt Carol is dead, though honestly I think she's sort of over due for it, since she's an original cast member and I'd think it's likely she'd appear on Talking Dead as a special guest.

So it's possible she's in the woods with Beth keeping watch there for possible assailants/walkers and Daryl scouted ahead to make sure the coast was clear.
 
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