Yeah, the hat never shows up again. Too bad - it was kinda a nice touch.
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Yeah, the hat never shows up again. Too bad - it was kinda a nice touch.
Just a little set decoration, probably supposed to remind us of something like this, a pre-WW2 officer's stateroom of the cruiser USS Brooklyn:
Note the cap on the shelf and the sword and .45 on the wall.
Yeah, but up close it might look too real-world familiar to some viewers. GSchnitzer did a write-up on the cap a while back:
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/?p=2030
Yeah, its not like its the MU.
The what? I can handle insider references when they're about TOS, but... what?
Mirror Universe. First seen in TOS.Yeah, its not like its the MU.
The what? I can handle insider references when they're about TOS, but... what?
It was not unheard of in real navies for officers to keep sidearms in their cabins. Certainly, the captain has the authority to request and issue them, doe she or she not? But at the same time, it does not have to be a working model. It could in fact be just for display. We even see Kirk with antique pistols in his San Francisco apartment in the Star Trek films.
Just a little set decoration, probably supposed to remind us of something like this, a pre-WW2 officer's stateroom of the cruiser USS Brooklyn:
Note the cap on the shelf and the sword and .45 on the wall.
Yeah, but up close it might look too real-world familiar to some viewers. GSchnitzer did a write-up on the cap a while back:
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/?p=2030
It was not unheard of in real navies for officers to keep sidearms in their cabins. Certainly, the captain has the authority to request and issue them, doe she or she not? But at the same time, it does not have to be a working model. It could in fact be just for display. We even see Kirk with antique pistols in his San Francisco apartment in the Star Trek films.
Just a little set decoration, probably supposed to remind us of something like this, a pre-WW2 officer's stateroom of the cruiser USS Brooklyn:
Note the cap on the shelf and the sword and .45 on the wall.
Yeah, but up close it might look too real-world familiar to some viewers. GSchnitzer did a write-up on the cap a while back:
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/?p=2030
Good point about Kirk and his apartment. I suppose I was just reacting to the current safety standard where one keeps their firearms locked (a legal requirement in California ) , and typically in a safe.
Kirks flintlocks could be non functional....or just by not having ball and powder they are essentially non functional.
We see officers pulling phasers out of drawers in their quarters semi-frequently in the 24th C shows. Always good for an eye-roll from anyone who knows anything about gun safety.
As we never see the interior of the drawers, the 'lax gun safety' argument isn't so cut and dried. The drawer may be designated for phaser storage, and have the holster in there as well. Indeed, every crewmember may have a storage locker or drawer at their disposal for phaser storage. What was silly was the phaser locker in the kitchen in TUC. It would have more likely been in the hall everyone entered the kitchen through at the beginning of the scene.
Oddly enough, there might be a defense for that, if we are to assume that Starfleet has essentially been on war footing with the Klingons for years. If that is the case, then placing weapons lockers in various otherwise secure places aboard a ship might make sense if there is fear, for instance, that an enemy could somehow beam aboard without warning.
In Day of the Dove, we see a specific armory room, but I can't remember if any dialogue refers to it being locked.
I think it's only in TNG and onward that we see phasers casually stored in drawers in quarters, sickbay, etc. However (and I think someone already brought this up on the board in past years), it's feasible that the drawers and/or weapons are keyed to only activate when an authorized person operates them.
That is, unless the script demands otherwise...
I think it's only in TNG and onward that we see phasers casually stored in drawers in quarters, sickbay, etc. However (and I think someone already brought this up on the board in past years), it's feasible that the drawers and/or weapons are keyed to only activate when an authorized person operates them.
That is, unless the script demands otherwise...
The endless war that (*) wanted the crew to fight, wouldn't really work if there were no weapons available. So (*) probably unlocked the armory so everyone could get in.
I remember this happening just once: in "Aquiel", with LaForge having a spare Type 2 lying about. Perhaps he had not yet returned the gun assigned to him for the duration of the investigation?
Elsewhere in TNG, our heroes had to go to the Armory or to dedicated lockers at Sickbay (!) for guns; supposedly, there would have been lockers at Transporter Rooms, too. In DS9, O'Brien had to break into a locker in a cargo hold to attempt suicide. Ops had some sort of an unseen supply of both Bajoran and Starfleet hand weapons, but that's hardly surprising.
"Starship Mine" suggests that not even Captain Picard had a weapon in his quarters. But the capacity to safely store a weapon there at least temporarily might well exist.
Or it could be unnecessary, because while shipboard, all phasers can be remotely commanded not to fire - see "A Matter of Time". They can probably also be commanded to go to stun mode, or even to fire...
Well, our Starfleet heroes would have had the clearance to open the lock by themselves - and the Klingons got their weapons from a separate supply, apparently, one that need not have been an armory to begin with. The thing would have seen to there being an alternate supply, possibly in the galley or the utensils storage room...
Who invented * to signify the beast, BTW? I first saw it used in that Tales of the Dominion War story.
Timo Saloniemi
I *think* it was Greg Cox, in the Q-Continuum trilogy. (I also think that book used the format "(*)" that George Steinbrenner used, rather than just "*".)
I could be wrong though. Mr. Cox is a member on the board, so maybe he'll drop by to confirm or deny.
