Gotham - Season 1

[Guy Gardener]

A finger in the eye socket worked great.

Using a knife has potential.

Swift kick to the happy sack.

Incapacitating someone permanently where they will need years of hospitalization or a coffin is actually very easy.

This punching each other in the head and chest thing we do is more of a social contract to mutually avoid becoming a gimp.

A "fight" is when you allow the possibility of losing.

If you don't care about the consequences, it's easier and less risky to your own safety to kill people than to fight them.

If you can put enough weight behind a kick to the knee, especially if something snaps, your opponent will be on the ground immediately, and then you can jump up and down on their face until it is pulped.

So it really come down to how strong what's between your ears are, than your biceps, no matter what your gender is.

 

[Icemizer]

You wouldnt look twice at Ronda Rousey in street clothes but heaven help you if she grabbed your arm.

 

[Timby]

Only better.

Christopher, that comes across super-skeevy. I can't imagine you meant it in a pervy way, but given the actress' age there's a subtext there.

Oh, come on. Admiration of aesthetics does not have to be sexual. There's only a "subtext" there if you're looking for an excuse to be judgmental.

C'mon, man, you said a fifteen-year-old girl looked "better" than a grown woman. I'm sure you didn't mean it in a skeevy way, but to have the interpretation Allyn did requires no subtext -- that was just text.

 

[Fist McStrongpunch]

She does though.

 

[Christopher]

C'mon, man, you said a fifteen-year-old girl looked "better" than a grown woman. I'm sure you didn't mean it in a skeevy way, but to have the interpretation Allyn did requires no subtext -- that was just text.

Not at all. People have been admiring the beauty of children and adolescents for thousands of years without any "skeevy" intent behind it. It used to be seen as a compliment to call a child beautiful. It's only in the past generation, when we've become more aware of sexual predation and hypersensitized to the risk, that we've stigmatized that attitude. Which is really misguided, because sexual predation is about power, not physical attraction. Predators don't choose their victims because they're good-looking, but because they're vulnerable. So a person who expresses admiration of a young person's beauty probably has nothing more than an aesthetic appreciation, the same as one would have for a beautiful painting or sculpture. Beauty is not necessarily the same thing as sexiness.

After all, the admiration that I and others have expressed toward Camren Bicondova's beauty is in response to her face, not her body, since she's not dressed in an enticing or revealing manner. And it's a given that her beauty was a factor in her casting, as it always is for actors; does that mean the show's producers have "skeevy" intentions for her?

 

[Guy Gardener]

A modifier like "for her age" would have kept you off most watch-lists.



(Tell an older woman that she is attractive her age and she will break your nose.)

 

[CorporalClegg]

It's a silly thing to say, anyway. Michelle Pfeiffer is one in a million, even at 56.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ah, but that's because you kept getting maturer.

If you were still the same age you were when you saw Grease II, you'd probably only see someone's grandmother because you hadn't had an ongoing relationship with the woman for the last thirty years.

 

[Christopher]

It's a silly thing to say, anyway. Michelle Pfeiffer is one in a million, even at 56.

It's not silly to have different tastes from another person. It's normal.

I wish I hadn't said it anyway, because of how it's dragged things off-topic. All I was really trying to do was to push back against the tendency to define Camren Bicondova merely as "That girl who looks like Michelle Pfeiffer." I think people deserve to be judged on their own qualities. I think Bicondova will prove to be an intriguing performer in her own right, not just a Mini-Michelle.

 

[shapeshifter]

'Nother fan checking in.

Character improvements this outing include, E. Nigma is beginning to sound more like Carrey. M. Caine was coming through loud and clear in Alfred, especially when emoting about Bruce. Penguins nose actually seemed to get a little pointier.

Welp, time for a second viewing.

 

[Christopher]

Character improvements this outing include, E. Nigma is beginning to sound more like Carrey.

How is that an improvement? Carrey was the worst Riddler ever -- or at least was saddled with the worst-written Riddler ever. The Riddler isn't a raving, antic lunatic; he's a cunning intellectual, a master of deceptions and brain teasers.

 

[shapeshifter]

I happen to like Carrey's personification of the Riddler, even if the material he was working with was weak.

It's only two episodes in, Chris. Can you say positively for sure he wont be developed towards a version of the character you prefer?

 

[Agent Richard07]

Harvey Dent has been cast.

Another Batman nemesis is heading to Fox’s Gotham. Nicholas D’Agosto (Masters Of Sex) has joined the cast of the freshman drama as Harvey Dent. He will be recurring this season with an option to become a regular in Season 2.

 

[CorporalClegg]

They cast a 34 year old as Harvey Dent when Bruce is a pre-teen?

No thanks.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

How long will they be able to resist turning Harvey into Two-Face?

 

[Christopher]

I happen to like Carrey's personification of the Riddler, even if the material he was working with was weak.

It's only two episodes in, Chris. Can you say positively for sure he wont be developed towards a version of the character you prefer?

I'm making no assumptions about the show one way or the other. I was merely taken aback by the suggestion that being like Carrey's Riddler could be a positive thing.

 

[DigificWriter]

JOOC, Chris, what don't you like about Carrey's Riddler?

Personally, I'm a fan of Carrey's performance, but don't see any resemblance between his Riddler and Corey Michael Smith's.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Jim Morrison was right, about everything.

 

[Kelthaz]

I rather enjoyed Carrey's performance too. It's not his fault the script sucked.

 

[theenglish]

I rather enjoyed Carrey's performance too. It's not his fault the script sucked.

I disagree. Both Carrey and Jones were trying to to their own impressions of Nicholson's Joker, not the characters they were actually playing. This could very well have been direction rather than their own choice.