I would like to see a ship stumble across a stable wormhole in Federation space. A wormhole that permits transportation to another galaxy. And circumstances that permit this other galaxy to become a new frontier.
Your ideal New Trek Series
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But how would it be any different than TOS, TNG, VOY or ENT beyond changing the names of the place they explore?
Good point, BillJ. On the other hand, the Bajorian wormhole permitted an invasion by a previously unknown power-but of course, that has now been done.
I would like to see how the Earth governments consolidated in the wake of First Contact. I would also like to see how the UFP consolidated in the wake of the Romulan War. Maybe the show could feature representatives from Earth, Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite governments negotiating their conflicting ideals with the help of an Earth historian who tells tales of the 2060s-2100s. Perhaps in the parallel timelines we see the economics and politics of Earth influence the economics and politics of the UFP, but also integrate the socioeconomic solutions created by more experienced unified governments such as the other three major powers of the UFP.
Such a show would definitely feature interstellar travel between the worlds and adventures like the solo runabout adventures on DS9 could occur. A Daedalus-class ship could serve a more official, diplomatic role.
Such a show would definitely feature interstellar travel between the worlds and adventures like the solo runabout adventures on DS9 could occur. A Daedalus-class ship could serve a more official, diplomatic role.
What could be cool is if a space station, a fleet, or something larger did get transported across the galaxy (or to another) and got stuck there.
They would set up a new government modeled on the Federation, but they would have no higher government to report to yet, so they have growing pains. Also they are completely surrounded by the unknown. It would be a chance to do everything original they ever wanted and give all the benefits of a reboot without actually rebooting anything.
Probably the simplest motif would by the further exploration and colonization of the Milky Way. The Hero ship/crew help to open up a new sector of the galaxy. Beside potential sites of colonization, they find humans transplanted by Preservers, Skags, or Briori; high tech artifacts left by Iconians, the Tkon Empire, the First Federation, even hardware abandoned by the Borg or the Dominion. Potential conflict with neighboring/expansive alien empires, who are also interested in resources, colonization sites, alien technology.... A few adventurers from Earth, who seek to make their fortune. A scoundrel or two, maybe a skamp. Refugees from where ever.
And, of course, The Unknown.
And, of course, The Unknown.
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I don't kn ow exactly what premise I want to see, but here are elements I would like to see:
1. 13 episode seasons...get rid of the filler episodes
2. Keep it serial...each episode should be like an episode in a book
3. have multiple arcs throughout the seasons
4. have a fairly large cast, say a dozen main characters, but each episode only centers on 3 or 4 at a time
5. Base it far enough in the future where neither TOS nor TNG are in living memory of anyone, not even Vulcans.
6. NO TIME TRAVEL!
7. Consider multiple settings with multiple crews, with something that ties them together..Maybe the pilot depicts 12 cadets graduating Star Fleet, and we see groups of 3 or 4 of that 12 going off in directions: group A is stationed on a Deep Space Station assignment, group B is assigned to a Ship, Group C is assigned to a rear echelon command staff.
8. Maybe the Federation is fractured after a war or catastrophic event, and the pilot starts with trying to bring order back to the federation.
9. Leave it ambiguous whether it is the prime or nu universe, or a different one altogether.
1. 13 episode seasons...get rid of the filler episodes
2. Keep it serial...each episode should be like an episode in a book
3. have multiple arcs throughout the seasons
4. have a fairly large cast, say a dozen main characters, but each episode only centers on 3 or 4 at a time
5. Base it far enough in the future where neither TOS nor TNG are in living memory of anyone, not even Vulcans.
6. NO TIME TRAVEL!
7. Consider multiple settings with multiple crews, with something that ties them together..Maybe the pilot depicts 12 cadets graduating Star Fleet, and we see groups of 3 or 4 of that 12 going off in directions: group A is stationed on a Deep Space Station assignment, group B is assigned to a Ship, Group C is assigned to a rear echelon command staff.
8. Maybe the Federation is fractured after a war or catastrophic event, and the pilot starts with trying to bring order back to the federation.
9. Leave it ambiguous whether it is the prime or nu universe, or a different one altogether.
"...they would be completely surrounded by the unknown...." Good point! 
So where would the wormhole go? One of the dwarf satellite galaxies of the Milky Way? Triangulum or Andromeda? Or perhaps to a galaxy in another cluster of galaxies?
So where would the wormhole go? One of the dwarf satellite galaxies of the Milky Way? Triangulum or Andromeda? Or perhaps to a galaxy in another cluster of galaxies?Two things:
One, since the timeline(s) are so convoluted anyway, they might as well to a temporal section series.,, And since the idea of concurrently existing parallel universes is also established have the temporal be also involved in parallel exploration, perhaps even working to prevent the various parallels from being "timeline shifted," by a mirror organization that definitely doesn't have a temporal prime directive.
Two: The cast should be more fluid than other series, with new replacements brought in on a more realistic basis than the seven year ensign syndrome other series experience.
One, since the timeline(s) are so convoluted anyway, they might as well to a temporal section series.,, And since the idea of concurrently existing parallel universes is also established have the temporal be also involved in parallel exploration, perhaps even working to prevent the various parallels from being "timeline shifted," by a mirror organization that definitely doesn't have a temporal prime directive.
Two: The cast should be more fluid than other series, with new replacements brought in on a more realistic basis than the seven year ensign syndrome other series experience.
"...they would be completely surrounded by the unknown...." Good point!
That all depends on what they want to do with the story. I think it would be most interesting if they were somehow transported far away in an earlier time so that they are without a lot of the technology of TNG.
Imagine if a chunk of Federation society was taken out of the TOS timeline and how they would be 100 years later. They might be wearing some derivative of the TOS Starfleet uniform - those that are actually involved in the defense and exploration. The rest would obviously turn to establishing everything the new world/s would need, like schools, government, food production, etc.
They could make an emphasis on more realistic and scientific devices and plot-lines. Without the backing of the federation and the most advanced ships, how exactly are they going to establish a base on an asteroid? How are they going to recalibrate ships to fly in new types of atmospheres that they have never seen before?
The types of aliens would be a part of where they are. If they ended up in another galaxy, it might mean that they are the only humanoids around. Alternately, they might run into another human-like civilization which is structured completely differently, having much more primitive technology in some ways but much more advanced in others. They might even find themselves in a largely hostile new sector of the galaxy, similar to what the Gamma Quadrant was under the Dominion. Maybe their arrival even breeds hope amongst rebel forces who are tucked away in some part of their new galaxy. That may sound like it's borrowing a lot from Star Wars or something, but think about how many times they did this on one-off planets throughout the whole Trek series.
A good mix of humanoids and more creative aliens would be the best, in my opinion. Did anyone play FTL? There are some pretty creative designs in that game which feel very Trek, but are unique still. They have actual cybernetic organisms that are almost indistinguishable from robots, but are in fact organic. They have reptilian-mantoid things acting as the warrior race. They have pure energy beings. They have metal deficient aliens who do anything to scrap metal and destroy oxygen...and so on. It's pretty cool and kind of inspiring. I like the Engi the best because they are basically good Borg who can reproduce on their own.
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Awhile back I came across a Klingon site which described/depicted their version of the Kinshaya. One of the least humanoid species yet, and the comparison to a griffin is not a close approximation. Like the Martians in War of the Worlds, these Kinshaya act almost like a force of nature, attacking the Klingon Empire with genocidal fury. Apparently located on the side of the Klingon Empire farthest from the Federation border. Given Star Trek cartography, I have to wonder if the Kinshaya have attacked other species, such as the Romulans.
(BTW, what kind of myths would people have in the far future? Urban myths? Myths about aliens?)
On the other hand, what if these critters threatened to over run weakened Klingon and Romulan empires?
Another idea would be to find the high tech remains of a Precursor species. If their tech was more sophisticated than the Federations's, I can imagine cloak and dagger, and an archaeological arms race.
Come to think of it, I can imagine Federation tech becoming two tiered in the aftermath of the Dominion War. The bleeding edge TNG/DS9/VOY stuff might be rare amongst the devastation, and difficult to build, maintain, or acquire. Make that three tiered, if Star Fleet can find ultra tech artifacts.
(BTW, what kind of myths would people have in the far future? Urban myths? Myths about aliens?)
On the other hand, what if these critters threatened to over run weakened Klingon and Romulan empires?
Another idea would be to find the high tech remains of a Precursor species. If their tech was more sophisticated than the Federations's, I can imagine cloak and dagger, and an archaeological arms race.
Come to think of it, I can imagine Federation tech becoming two tiered in the aftermath of the Dominion War. The bleeding edge TNG/DS9/VOY stuff might be rare amongst the devastation, and difficult to build, maintain, or acquire. Make that three tiered, if Star Fleet can find ultra tech artifacts.
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The point of visiting another galaxy is encounter something new, something different. Not strictly necessary. Voyager went to the other side of the Milky Way, and to a certain extent that volume of space seemed foreign to Federation space. Now, imagine a sector of space just beyond Federation which features stuff little or never seen in Star Trek. Stuff science fiction-y and strange. This sector is just being surveyed by Star Fleet, and seems like a strange/alien/foreign place.
Meanwhile, back in Federation space, its wagon train to the stars.
Meanwhile, back in Federation space, its wagon train to the stars.
I'm okay with "Wagon Train to the Stars". It is a flexible enough format that allows any kind of story to be told. Plus, the Enterprise in TOS ran into plenty of strange/alien/foreign things. The Milky Way is really big, even if you confine the adventures to a quarter of it, there are still seventy-five billion stars to explore.
What about starting over completely? Keep the basic, the very basic premise and go from their. Scrap everything we know about Trek and start from scratch. It's become too ingrained in our lives. I actually had a student think Vulcan was a real planet. So ditch the Vulcans, Klingons, etc.
But those are things that make Star Trek uniquely Star Trek. If you're going to strip away everything but a ship traveling through space might as well call it "Space Patrol" and save the licensing fees and other costs associated with calling it "Star Trek".
I think there is *some* merit to doing a strip down... But not that far. In Batman Begins. Batman is still Bruce Wayne. He's still 'The Dark Knight.' The Batmobile, Wayne Manor, Alfred, and Commissioner Gordon are all still there.
I think BillJ is right. It really has to stay with Kirk, Spock, and The Enterprise.
I'd love to see someone take the material that was fleshed out over the three seasons, animated series, and six films, and go back and restart fresh, but taking all the really good ideas into account.
With that better understanding of who Spock was you could totally revitalise the mystery of the character in new ways.
With McCoy you have hints of an ex wife, a daughter, and the fact that he euthanized his dad, only for shortly thereafter a cure to be found. All of those things could inform the "simple country doctor" personality.
Same for Kirk, he's the youngest Captain in the fleet, he's got these reputations formulating around him. What must that do to the man inside? You could go so much further with the characters now.
I think BillJ is right. It really has to stay with Kirk, Spock, and The Enterprise.
I'd love to see someone take the material that was fleshed out over the three seasons, animated series, and six films, and go back and restart fresh, but taking all the really good ideas into account.
With that better understanding of who Spock was you could totally revitalise the mystery of the character in new ways.
With McCoy you have hints of an ex wife, a daughter, and the fact that he euthanized his dad, only for shortly thereafter a cure to be found. All of those things could inform the "simple country doctor" personality.
Same for Kirk, he's the youngest Captain in the fleet, he's got these reputations formulating around him. What must that do to the man inside? You could go so much further with the characters now.
I'd probably keep Kirk, Spock and the Enterprise in a reboot. Try to figure an angle that allows the show to keep Number One, maybe as someone who thought they were in line for command after Pike was promoted. She doesn't see herself as a subordinate to Kirk, but a competitor for the Captain's Chair, also she handles the helm. I'd replace McCoy with a female Chief Medical Officer. Someone who is a brilliant researcher but has a lousy bedside manner. Kirk calling her "Bones" would be more of an irritant to her. She'd inherit McCoy's "He/She's dead, Jim." Scott would remain Chief Engineer, and be much older than the rest of the main cast. He would inherit McCoy's role as a foil for Spock and confidant for Kirk. Uhura would be the security chief. Sulu would handle the weapons console. Then I would bring in a Middle-Eastern female as a civilian specialist on first contact who has power over those types of missions that rivals Kirk's.
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