Notable characters who never got a full name (in canon, at least).
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What do you mean "Number One" never got a full name?
Given name: "Number"
Family name: "One"
That was only used once onscreen, by the Vulcan healer in "Yesteryear." To my ear, it sounds less like a formal name than a request for clarification of his identity. "You are Spock, son of Sarek, are you not?" Like "Yeah, you're Jimmy, Harold's kid from down the street, right?"
The one time we have really seen that form used was in The Search for Spock: "I am Sarek, child of Skon, child of Solkar." But that seemed like a ritual usage only. (And there were years of fan debate over whether that meant Skon and Solkar were Sarek's father and mother or that Skon was his father and Solkar his grandfather. It's now pretty much accepted to be the latter; in the books, Sarek's mother is T'Rama.)
On several occasions, we've heard Vulcan characters referred to as "Spock of Vulcan," "Sarek of Vulcan," "Sitar of Vulcan" ("The Ultimate Computer"), and in various DS9 and Voyager episodes, Senva, T'Pau, T'Hain, T'Pena, and T'Leel of Vulcan. Sarek's the one it's been used for the most, but it seems to be a fairly common honorific or address for Vulcans, at least when discussed or addressed by offworlders (since it would be kind of redundant on Vulcan itself).
The old Pocket novel Ishmael gave his full name as S'chn T'gai Spock of the clan Hgrtcha. Which doesn't seem that hard to pronounce (unless the apostrophes represent some kind of difficult clicks or aspirations or something), but it's a lot less dumb than "Xtmprszntwlfd." And it's been acknowledged by a couple of more recent works of Trek Lit.
William Rotsler chose "Leonard Edward McCoy" for his Star Trek II Biographies. Diane Duane, oddly, kept using that as his middle name even after The Search for Spock established his middle initial as H.
I think that was meant as a compromise between his first name from Vonda McIntyre's The Entropy Effect and a fan theory of his first name. Although another fan theory (popularized in the Best of Trek anthologies) was that his first name was Walter, and some post-1981 fan sources called him Hikaru Walter Sulu.
Again, a compromise between Penda or Upenda from the Best of Trek books and Nyota from Rotsler's biographies. We know which one eventually won out.
Not only did he never get a first name, he promptly got killed in the Abrams reboot.
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Abrams: Uhura? Yeah, she needs a first name, but let's have fun with it. Make Kirk keep guessing it.
Writer: What about Kyle?
Abrams: Who?
Writer: Kyle? Transporter guy? Never had a first name either?
Abrams: Oh, yeah, him. Kill him.
What are you talking about? Memory Alpha has no mention of an alternate-reality Kyle.
Is it possible you're thinking of the English-accented chief engineer Olson, who was killed in the orbital skydive in the first film?
Which struck me as an attempt to explain why Uhura never used her first name in the Prime reality.
Quark would be more than happy to tell you his family name ... for a small fee.
All non-canon, since DC comics, the novels and Best of Treks are all equally valid, you can choose which one name you please. I kind of like Winston (which I first read in Best of Trek).
If the Vulcan hearing range is larger than a Humans, then yes they could have more syllables than we.
Resently a poster here suggested (perhaps tounge in cheek) that Number One was "Commander Majel." To be honest, I like this.
At least in the alternate universe, the prime universe her first (and middle names) are still undefinied.
I'm rooting for Penda.
Uh, no. Why would Nero's arrival cause Uhura to change her name? That's the only reason this timeline even exists.
Even assuming that this version of Uhura was born at a different time (which is also not assured, since we have no idea when she was born), there's no reason this would cause her to have a different NAME.
As for Number One, I'm going with Morgan Primus/Lefler. I mean, come on, Number One is a popular nickname for first officers going back generations. Why should she be any different?
The Early Voyages comics call her Commander Robbins, first name something beginning with "Eure-" (probably Eureka -- something she's embarrassed to use, which is why she prefers to go by Number One). Some of the novels have called her Lefler, because Robin Lefler's mother Morgan Primus in the New Frontier novels was implied to have been Number One (hence the surname) -- although Peter David backpedaled from that once the fans figured out that was what he was hinting at, because he doesn't like to be predictable.
At least in the alternate universe, the prime universe her first (and middle names) are still undefinied.
I'm rooting for Penda.
Nyota's been pretty universally accepted since the '80s. Nichelle Nichols herself endorsed the name long ago. Starlog's official movie magazines for the Trek films called her Nyota Uhura, and countless novels have done so. "Penda" was never used outside of some fanfiction, as far as I know.
I'm quite fond of the full name "S'chn T'gai Spock", from Ishmael.
IIRC, another obsolete name from Best of Trek was "Walter Sulu", supposedly given by George Takei when fans asked at conventions for Sulu's first name.
IIRC, another obsolete name from Best of Trek was "Walter Sulu", supposedly given by George Takei when fans asked at conventions for Sulu's first name.
The captain of the Saratoga in STIV:TVH should have been named on screen.
Hardly a notable character in Trek lore, and indeed, she's one of many starship captains to be unnamed. Hell, no one on her crew was named either, for that matter, aside from Sisko, no one on the other Saratoga was named either.
Yeah, she was only the first female captain shown in canon. Hardly notable....
My point is, she's in what, one scene, and none of her shipmates are named. It's as much an issue as the punk on the bus not having a name.
Although, I guess they did give the captain of the Yorktown a name and he had an even smaller role, so maybe there was room for the Saratoga captain.
No, they didn't give him a name. In the script he was named Joel Randolph, but the name was never used in the film, and they cast Indian actor Vijay Amritraj in the role, which suggests they would've changed the name to something more South Asian if they had identified him onscreen. I think Memory Alpha is wrong to list the character under the name Joel Randolph. Just because something is in the script, that doesn't mean it's part of the final work.
True. Vijay Amritraj is just credited as Starship Captain in the closing credits.
Madge Sinclair isn't even credited as the Saratoga Captain, despite having a more prominent role.
Pfft. In TOS, most Romulans didn't even get *one*. Someone already mentioned the Romulan Commander from "The Enterprise Incident", but there was also the Romulan Commander and the Centurion from "Balance of Terror". I *think* there were only two Romulans actually named in TOS: Decius and Tal. (Even in TAS, I think the only Romulan to get a name was Xerius, whereas there were a couple of unnamed ship commanders in a couple of episodes.)
"The Dominion".
I have to say that I never really liked that particular one.
In a similar vein, I've always been partial to "Commander Hudec".
Yeah, I've always preferred Winston too. The name "Winston Kyle" just sounds a lot nicer to my ear than "John Kyle". (Apologies to any real life John Kyles!
) Perhaps one is his first name, and the other is his middle name, and at different points in his life he changes up which one he goes by?When you're that awesome, you only need one name!
Alternatively, his first name is "The".
^I don't know why, but the Punk always reminded me of Wayne Arnold from Wonder Years.
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