Temporal Agents in nuTrek
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Assuming the DTI exists back in Kirk's time (it probably doesn't, since time travel seems a new, surprising phenomenon when Kirk first encounters it in 'The Naked Time'- although later that same year they seem to use the slingshot effect rather routinely to take jaunts back to Earth's past- perhaps the DTI was hastily assembled around the same time), by the time they figured out the Narada was from the future and was responsible for altering the timeline (20 years later?) it was probably too late for them to do anything about it (it's not like they themselves jump forward and backwards in time to prevent incursions), and besides, there is probably a statute of limitations on their activities- after 20 years, they would probably say that the universe was 'meant' to be in the shape it was in after than incursion- indeed, the events of the reboot Star Trek film do sort of indicate that even with changes in the timeline, people still end up where they are 'meant' to be.
Since the more advanced tech of the Abramsverse is actually based on scans taken of the Narada, I suppose the DTI could have had a hand in it. Perhaps they were the ones who examined the sensor logs and assisted Starfleet in upgrading its fleet?
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Knock it off, Set. You've been here long enough that you're supposed to know better.
Christopher.
So, in other words, it's a Lit thing, rather than a stated/shown on screen thing?
Well, in DS9: Trials and Tribble-ations, the DTI guys say Kirk has the biggest file on record, so either someone was keeping tabs around the same time, or as a simple matter of historical research for case studies afterwards.
If you want a very detailed explanation of how the time travel in the new movies can be reconciled with the old (as well as how to reconcile all the contradictory time travels in classic Trek), you want to get Christopher's awesome novel Department of Temporal Investigations: Watching the Clock.
It merges real theories and Trek science, and will leave you thinking it all makes perfect sense. THESE annotations contain spoilers, but right at the top are links to the theories he used for the book's model of time travel.
It really is an outstanding book, especially if you're interested in time travel mechanics both in and out of Trek and enjoy seeing disparate timelines and storylines from across the Trek franchise seamlessly woven together. One of my favorites of Christopher's along with Ex Machina and The Buried Age.
The DTI stories are very well done and make the whole time travel thing as understandable as can be- plus the characters are engaging.
So … fortunately for the New Timeline, the Federation had adequately funded its Department of Teleological Investigations?
Actually, time agents were banned from fixing Kirk's messes when it was found that all of them run to him for autographs instead.
^ Yeah, that's one of my favorite bits in the novels:
Lucsly actually meets Kirk and works with him for a bit, then finds he actually kind of likes the guy. But Lucsly puts on a 'brave face' that he still hates Kirk because that's exactly what the DTI's mission needs: a clearly defined 'bogeyman'.
Don't know why they need Kirk when Janeway is an even better example seeing as she doesn't even give a crap about not changing the timeline if she benefits from it.
It has been repeatedly stated by the producers that there was no overwriting. The Abramsverse and the prime reality are parallel quantum realities.
^What King Daniel Into Darkness said. Watching the Clock is a fantastic novel.If you want a very detailed explanation of how the time travel in the new movies can be reconciled with the old (as well as how to reconcile all the contradictory time travels in classic Trek), you want to get Christopher's awesome novel Department of Temporal Investigations: Watching the Clock.
It merges real theories and Trek science, and will leave you thinking it all makes perfect sense. THESE annotations contain spoilers, but right at the top are links to the theories he used for the book's model of time travel.
