That makes little sense, the skit would have been written by the SNL staff writers. Shatner was playing a fictional version himself in the skit, he was working off of a script.
What was Doohan thinking?
What Became of Nimbus III/The Planet of Galactic Peace?
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What was Doohan thinking?
Regarding the location of Nimbus, note that both the Feds and the Klingons get there in no time flat, while the Romulans, well, don't.
Should this be taken to mean that the NZ in question is between the UFP and the Klingons but distant from the Romulan Star Empire? The Feds are compulsive Zoners, so such a spot would no doubt exist. But why, then, would the rather isolationist Romulans have any truck with this world?
My personal preference is to have Nimbus in the Romulan Neutral Zone, for a couple of reasons.
1) It was founded back when Klingons were the sworn and active enemies of the Federation but the Romulans had just come out of their closet and were an unknown quantity; it would make sense to do exotic and previously untried peace overtures with the Romulans, and later invite the Klingons to join.
2) Various factors conspire to place Romulans closer to the galactic core than Klingons. The plot would benefit from the galactic core being in a direction that takes our heroes and villains away from their home turf and possible reinforcements, not towards them.
Then again, the first point could work in reverse, too. Klingons did sign up for a grudging peace after "Errand of Mercy", while we never learned that the Romulans would have.
Timo Saloniemi
Should this be taken to mean that the NZ in question is between the UFP and the Klingons but distant from the Romulan Star Empire? The Feds are compulsive Zoners, so such a spot would no doubt exist. But why, then, would the rather isolationist Romulans have any truck with this world?
My personal preference is to have Nimbus in the Romulan Neutral Zone, for a couple of reasons.
1) It was founded back when Klingons were the sworn and active enemies of the Federation but the Romulans had just come out of their closet and were an unknown quantity; it would make sense to do exotic and previously untried peace overtures with the Romulans, and later invite the Klingons to join.
2) Various factors conspire to place Romulans closer to the galactic core than Klingons. The plot would benefit from the galactic core being in a direction that takes our heroes and villains away from their home turf and possible reinforcements, not towards them.
Then again, the first point could work in reverse, too. Klingons did sign up for a grudging peace after "Errand of Mercy", while we never learned that the Romulans would have.
Timo Saloniemi
I think it's entirely likely that, regardless of the location of Nimbus III, the Romulans didn't care enough to send assistance. They probably hoped Dar would get killed by a rock gun at some point.
Even Klaa was less interested in doing anything to help Koord than in going after Kirk.
Even Klaa was less interested in doing anything to help Koord than in going after Kirk.
Bennett: " we have a dangerous situation out on Nimbus Three."
Kirk: "On the 'Planet of Galactic Peace'?"
Kirk's sarcasm is obvious in his tone of voice. The Klingon Consul (General Korrd) was referred to by Spock as having fallen from favor. That might as be true of both the Federation and Romulan consuls as well. Sybok calling for a ship from the Federation might have been based in part on the knowledge that neither of the Empires would bother sending one.
Kirk: "On the 'Planet of Galactic Peace'?"
Kirk's sarcasm is obvious in his tone of voice. The Klingon Consul (General Korrd) was referred to by Spock as having fallen from favor. That might as be true of both the Federation and Romulan consuls as well. Sybok calling for a ship from the Federation might have been based in part on the knowledge that neither of the Empires would bother sending one.
Bennett: " we have a dangerous situation out on Nimbus Three."
Kirk: "On the 'Planet of Galactic Peace'?"
Kirk's sarcasm is obvious in his tone of voice. The Klingon Consul (General Korrd) was referred to by Spock as having fallen from favor. That might as be true of both the Federation and Romulan consuls as well. Sybok calling for a ship from the Federation might have been based in part on the knowledge that neither of the Empires would bother sending one.
I agree with this assessment. Klaa just happened to overhear Kirk was going to be there and he wanted a shot at him. No rescue intended.
Klaa was orignally going just because he knew Starfleet would definately send a ship, so he'd get better target practise. Once he found out it was Enterprise and Kirk, he increased interest and I think speed to get there.
Also, unless Pioneer 10 too went through some kind of wormhole, Klaa was very close to Earth when he intercepted the message about Numbus III.
Also, unless Pioneer 10 too went through some kind of wormhole, Klaa was very close to Earth when he intercepted the message about Numbus III.
Once the respective powers had recalled their ambassadors and abandoned the "Galactic Planet of Peace" project, the planet's economy (about 80% of which was comprised solely of Talbot's and Korrd's cigarette and booze purchases) cratered.
The planet became (even more than before) a desolate backwater until 2297 when Jason Wrigley IV purchased the planet and converted it into Wrigley's Pleasure Planet West.
The planet became (even more than before) a desolate backwater until 2297 when Jason Wrigley IV purchased the planet and converted it into Wrigley's Pleasure Planet West.
There are two separate scenes. First, Klaa learns that there's a hostage situation ongoing, and speculates that Starfleet will be sending a ship. Clearly Klaa decides all on his own to go after this ship; he receives no orders to do anything about the Nimbus III situation from his superiors. This is before Kirk has even been informed of the crisis. Then follows another scene where Klaa, already en route, learns that Kirk will be sent, and gets all hot and bothered.
We never quite learn whether these things are being broadcast on some sort of a generic rumor net that Vixis may not even be authorized to listen to, or are being included in official intelligence packages sent out to Klingon fighting vessels. If the latter, the Empire probably deniably wants hotheads like Klaa to take action - and it's something of a miracle that only Klaa does.
Perhaps we should take the fact that Klaa and Klaa alone acts in time as evidence that Klaa was truly exceptionally close to Nimbus III. Kruge was spying deep inside UFP territory in his cloakship; perhaps Klaa's mission was similar, only bolder? We know that a century on, Klingons are confident enough to send their cloakships right to within transporter range of enemy capital worlds... Klaa's lack of discipline would be a bit surprising, then, but Vixis' intercepting those messages, including the supposedly classified fact that Kirk is being sent, would be because of the exceptional spying mission, and a feat no other Klingon ship could achieve.
Then again, it would be something of a miracle if Pioneer 10 didn't get abducted across interstellar ranges...
Timo Saloniemi
Yeah, pretty much every early Earth probe/ship/whatever went through some kind of black hole/wormhole/graviton ellipse/whatever...
