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What would you recommend for ST4 to top $500 million box office?
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At the very least, I'd prefer the next one not be from Earth's past.
Maybe our society stops being inhabited by people who are constantly plagued by the unintended consequences of mistakes made by our predecessors and/or parents, leaving us to clean up the previous generation's colossal mess while still trying to forge a path forward and, if we're very very lucky, avoid making the same mistakes they did?
Here's a thought: The Klingons, devastated by the destruction of Praxis, apply to join the Federation. The situation splits the Federation into two factions: an ultra-nationalist group that wants to conquer the Klingons -- and everyone else -- through military action, and a unionist party that wants to bring the Klingons in and make them full members. Both factions discover the existence of a a dyson sphere or a ringworld or some other ancient alien megastructure that supposedly has some kind of hidden treasure on it; the nationalists think it's a superweapon, the Klingons think it's the key to saving their species from extinction.
So Captain Kirk has to go and retrieve it before the Romulans, the Klingons, the Cardassians, the Gorn, and the other Federation nationlists find it, and then he has to decide who -- if anyone -- he should give it to, because whoever gets the device will basically be able to write the destiny of the rest of the galaxy for the next hundred years.
Make it basically "Indiana Jones IN SPACE" with lots of shooting, trap doors, crazy alien natives, Romulan Space Nazis, Federation Space Nazis, Klingon mercenaries, Cardassian prostitutes, Gorn snipers, and Matt Damon gets his face melted off.
Sounds good, like a big budget Contagion/Chase
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Change anything that makes it look like an expensive parody of TOS. That includes the costumes and to a certain extent the ship design.
Don't try to copy the success of Wrath of Khan. Mostly because most writers/directors haven't a clue what made that movie so good anyway.
Don't have the Enterprise getting it's arse kicked again. The ship is almost as much the hero of the movie as the cast. It's to Star Trek what the Millennium Falcon is to Star Wars, even more so. It's hard to root for the Enterprise when it's lost every battle for almost 20 years (starting with Star Trek Insurrection). This also means not pitting the ship against overwhelming odds.
Don't bring back the Borg.
Don't make the story about aliens. No one outside of sci-fi fans give a damn about how a myxethoerbal eats a cabbage. It's just "silly meaningless rubbish" that takes them out of the movie. Heck, you could easily rewrite Wrath of Khan into a Hunt for Red October style thriller. Same goes for Star Trek VI.
Give the characters some real relatable drama, that gets some real focus (not a few scenes that feel out of place).
Don't rely on Trek nostalgia.
Don't try to copy the success of Wrath of Khan. Mostly because most writers/directors haven't a clue what made that movie so good anyway.
Don't have the Enterprise getting it's arse kicked again. The ship is almost as much the hero of the movie as the cast. It's to Star Trek what the Millennium Falcon is to Star Wars, even more so. It's hard to root for the Enterprise when it's lost every battle for almost 20 years (starting with Star Trek Insurrection). This also means not pitting the ship against overwhelming odds.
Don't bring back the Borg.
Don't make the story about aliens. No one outside of sci-fi fans give a damn about how a myxethoerbal eats a cabbage. It's just "silly meaningless rubbish" that takes them out of the movie. Heck, you could easily rewrite Wrath of Khan into a Hunt for Red October style thriller. Same goes for Star Trek VI.
Give the characters some real relatable drama, that gets some real focus (not a few scenes that feel out of place).
Don't rely on Trek nostalgia.
Basically. In much the same way TMP was a big budget "The Changeling"
Totes. The mirror universe, like the Borg before, are just made for the big screen. No ugly alien ships but supercool Starfleet designs battling off.
Those of us wanting Paramount to take a different path with Trek for a movie or two should be watching Arrival and next months Passengers box office takes. Arrival cost $50 mil and Passengers $100 mil. Moderately budgeted intelligent sci fi films with bigger name casts than the Kelvinverse. Arrival is a Paramount film. If they bring in the dough it make make lower key sci fi films more viable again.
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