So... about that black hole right next to Earth...

No black holes have been created at CERN. Theory says they could be created if certain conditions hold (like the universe has extra dimensions of space). But nothing like this has been confirmed.

Also, black hole evaporation is still only a theory. No proof yet.

 

Though I agree, you'll find that some people insist they were in the same place, in defiance of all the evidence we have to the contrary.

 

Yep. To me, the whole thing was explained rather neatly.

 

I'm not sure how massive this black hole was, or where exactly it was, but here is food for thought...

If the Sun suddenly turned into a black hole -- one with the same mass as the Sun has now -- the earth and other planets (even Mercury) would continue merrily in their orbits as if the Sun was still there.

The gravitational pull exerted by the sun-mass black hole would be the same as the gravitational pull exerted by the Sun. The difference would be that once matter got past this black hole's event horizon (which would be less than 10 miles in diameter), that matter would never escape.

Of course, this sun-black hole would continue to grow more massive, but it would take hundreds of millions of years before it would threaten Earth.

 

Yes, but the big problem then would be that Earth (and everyone on it) would freeze due to lack of sunshine. Also, those who managed to survive would probably be killed by the intense gamma radiation from matter in the accretion disk falling into the black hole.

 

But, we have onscreen evidence that they don't simply evaporate. After Spock detonates the red matter that takes care of the supernova, Nero arrives. Unless the black hole is still sucking in the supernova offscreen, it's still there. If it weren't, it wouldn't have pulled in both the Narada and the Jellyfish. Spock's a smart guy. He doesn't seem like the type to just set a course into a black hole willingly.

 

The red matter singularity doesn't dissipate immediately, and neither is it permanent. It lasted long enough for both Nero and Spock to fall through it, that's all.

 

Well of course -- but the black hole wouldn't suck the earth in.

 

Obviously the two ships arrived decades apart, but what was in in the movie that constitutes "all the evidence" that they were different locations?

 

According to dialogue when the Kelvin approaches the first lightning storm, they were virtually in Klingon space. Later during the mission broadcast, Chekov says the second lightning storm is in the Romulan neutral zone.

Plus, Ayel's "we've arrived at the co-ordinates you calculated" would make no sense if it were a simple return to the same location they arrived at.