General Music Thread

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by JayOwl, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. Zulu Romeo

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    Sigue Sigue Sputnik were very much a product of the 80s:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk[/yt]

    :D
     
  2. PKTrekGirl

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    You know, I do not own that "Very Best Of" album. At that point, I owned all of their studio albums and had purchased "Money For Nothing" a decade earlier (I always got a kick out of them using "Money for Nothing" as the title of that...like they had a sense of humor about the fact that there were no new songs on the record - it was just a 'best of' compilation. :lol: ) so I didn't buy "The Very Best Of". Would you recommend it to JayOwl? I don't even know what tracks are on it!

    Here is a link to their discography on Wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits_discography

    There you can see that, like most British bands, they got big in the UK before the US....I would say that over here, their 'breakout' album was Making Movies and of course, their mega-hit album was Brothers In Arms.

    JayOwl...if you end up liking Brothers In Arms..I would suggest Making Movies and Love Over Gold as next steps. You mentioned that you really liked "Telegraph Road" - well, that song is on Love Over Gold and is AWESOME. It was not a single...but it is the song that really got my personal attention, back in the day. Here is the studio version...all 14 minutes of it! :lol: :

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd3btVhwr48&feature=related[/yt]

    Beautiful song!
     
  3. Zulu Romeo

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    Its full title is "Sultans of Swing: the very best of Dire Straits" released in the late 90s, and is a collection of their singles, including the radio edit of "Money For Nothing" and live versions of Local Hero's "Wild Theme" and "Your Latest Trick." It's a decent introduction to their work, I think, and might inspire someone new to the band to seek the rest of their discography.

    Track list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultans_of_Swing:_The_Very_Best_of_Dire_Straits
     
  4. PKTrekGirl

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    Santaman...I agree with you about the 80's. I think that, like any era of music, there was good and bad. Most of the bad is sort of forgotten at this point (unless it was so bad that it is actually remembered for it's excessive badness! :lol: )...but there is good and bad in all eras.

    I mean, I was a child in the 70's...and I can tell you that while there were great bands making great music (Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones were all huge in the 70's, Motown was roaring, and bands such as Queen, Bruce Springsteen, and Aerosmith had made their marks with their best years still ahead of them). But then we had truly godawful music in the 70's too. Pop music in particular was just GHASTLY in the 70's. I mean, get a load of this piece of crap:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBYV_7a0FQs[/yt]

    I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. :lol:

    And then there was disco. I mean, I know she just died...but Jesus, this song is just TERRIBLE:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5AztWseIdU[/yt]

    Tremendous lyrics in that song, huh? I mean, in between the faux-orgasms. :lol:

    What I'm trying to say here is that these days, when people think about the 70's, they (thankfully) remember bands like Led Zeppelin...or The Eagles...or Fleetwood Mac....or even bands like the Commodores, who were AWESOME in the 70's:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBx6mAWYPU[/yt]

    But thankfully, for most of us, songs like this>

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_Fdly3rX8&feature=related[/yt]

    are largely forgotten by all but the most traumatized among us. :lol:
     
  5. Zulu Romeo

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    As someone who grew up in the 80s and 90s, I can definitely concur with this. In the UK, BBC Four rebroadcasts old episodes of Top of the Pops originally shown in the late 70s each Thursday (except when The Sky At Night is on) and the vast majority of the songs featured each week have been rightly forgotten in the mists of time, with only one or two songs that have survived in the general collective memory - not coincidentally, such songs are genuinely good. But yeah, the truly awful ones are remembered for their badness, and as such still stay with us whether we like it or not!

    Also, our Radio 2 each week has a Pick of the Pops programme which revisits the UK top 40 from the present week in 2 different years - occasionally featuring music from my childhood years - and while it gives us the chance to listen again to great songs, it does unearth some forgotten gems of songs and, again, some rubbish that should have stayed forgotten but didn't. :lol:
     
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  7. PKTrekGirl

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    Yeah...that one might well be a step better than Money For Nothing, if you are in the market for a 'best of'. Has more stuff on it, and since it's a decade newer, might have better sound quality, etc on a CD. I just own Money for Nothing and the more recent compilation that has both Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler's solo career featured.

    Still no Telegraph Road on that one...but then, that was never a single so was never considered an official 'hit'...even though lots of Dire Straits fans love that song.

    You know, JayOwl...I sort of got thinking about the 70's because of your mention of trying out all these bands that were either big in the 70's (Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles) or got their start in the 70's (Dire Straits)...and then the post that I made above.

    And based on what I know about you, you might want to add another very important singer/songwriter to your list of people to try out: James Taylor. As you know, I'm pretty much a grunge/hard rock/sometimes-metal kind of gal...but even *I* love James Taylor. One of the great singer/songwriters of our time, IMO:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dimDXTOf94&feature=related[/yt]

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv3kIw0lBqI&feature=related[/yt]

    When I'm in the mood for mellow music or am feeling kind of melancholy, I reach for James Taylor (or also some early Dan Fogelberg...but that's another story). I don't know...there is something soothing about his music...his voice...everything about him. Might be just me because I was a very small child when I first heard him - my older cousins had Sweet Baby James and played it all the time - but I find his music to be like a warm blanket.

    I don't know....just an idea. :)
     
  8. JayOwl

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    Tell me about it. I used to regularly listen to the charts but I stopped about a year ago because I just got so sick of it, and I'm glad I did. I've found much better music to listen to. Sure, there were some good tracks but it was getting to the point where a good week for me was where I liked 10 out of the 40 tracks... and I usually owned those anyway. :p

    I've made a note of those. Added them to my wishlist on amazon. I'm at my Dads this week, so I've asked if I can dig out a few of the records, and he's perfectly happy with that. I think I saw lightening on one of them, and looking at the video, that's "Love Over Gold". He's probably got them all somewhere or other though. :D
    The studio version is great, although the video is a little quiet. You know, I really really like this. I think you have a convert. We'll see what happens with the albums, but I'm optimistic. ;)

    ETA: I loaded this page ages ago, so I missed the last post. Sure, I'll give it a listen. :)
    ETA2: Sounds very nice. I'll look into that too. If you like that acoustic/ indie sound, would you listen to this?
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rePcHxFJIuU[/yt]
    and one more slightly more up tempo song of theirs:
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uizQVriWp8M[/yt]
    I've only recently got into Death Cab, but I'm glad I bought 3 of their albums, especially "Plans". Lovely stuff.

    I just ordered "Love Over Gold" too. They're very cheap at amazon. :p
     
  9. PKTrekGirl

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    Oh wow...I'd completely forgotten about that piece of magic. :lol:

    I was in my teens then...and really, there was some terrible music about. The late 70's is really one of the wastelands of music, IMO. I think that because of 'music' like this and the predominance of disco, I had my Eagles records (actually, 8-tracks!) on permanent rotation at all times for, like, a couple of YEARS! It was the only way to ward off the horrors of the music of the day! To this day, this song holds this odd sense of residual relief for me:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXT1h3Ags94&feature=related[/yt]

    The Eagles were truly a shelter from the storm of a really BAD era of music. In fact, the Eagles were my first real rock concert! Was too young for the Hotel California tour...but got them on The Long Run tour. HUGE crush on Glen Frey! :lol: My biggest fear as a teen was that Don Henley and Glen Frey would reach the point where they couldn't stand each other one second longer and The Eagles would break up. Because there was nothing else. I mean, Springsteen was up and running, but I was really too young to appreciate his greatness at that time. I love Springsteen now - including early Springsteen from the 70's...but at the time, I was just too young to get it - I didn't really begin to 'get' Springsteen until "The River", which came out in the early 80's. So The Eagles (and Fleetwood Mac's Fleetwood Mac and Rumours) were pretty much it, in terms of 'new' music.

    I was so thankful for the early 80's! When The Police came onto my radar in about 1980-81, I knew I was saved! :lol:
     
  10. Ar-Pharazon

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    ^ I agree the late 70's were a wasteland for Hard Rock, definitely.

    Led Zeppelin was really winding down, Deep Purple were over (for the time being) & Rainbow were around but kinda less than they had been.

    Boston was up & coming, but disco was taking over as the fad music.

    Still a ton of good "classic" rock, like you mentioned.
     
  11. JayOwl

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    Ah yes, Hotel California is one of the greats. :techman:
    I know what you mean. I saw a rerun of one of those 70s "top of the pops" recently. All that glitter... ugh. :lol:
    I did a few edits, so you might've missed some of my last post- do look at those videos if you're interested. ;)
     
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    1973 was a good year though, it brought us AC/DC :cool:
     
  13. PKTrekGirl

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    JayOwl, yeah...I like Death Cab okay - I especially like that first song, "I Will Follow You Into The Dark". Although I think my favorite more recent indie band is probably The Shins. This is not from their most recent album, but is still one of my favorite of their songs:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHTSxw6zN1E[/yt]

    It *has* to be impossible to dislike that song. :lol: And I say that as a gal whose favorite 'new' band of the last decade, by a long, long margin, is these guys:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAZux_FsqaM[/yt]

    I LOVE, Avenged Sevenfold. Synyster Gates, IMO, has the very real potential of being the greatest guitarist of his generation. I mean, we are talking the potential for Eddie Van Halen territory here, if he doesn't get sidetracked by things like too much partying, etc. This band, though, does not have a weak link - every single one of them are incredibly talented at what they do.

    Like I said...I'm really more of a Grunge/Hard Rock/Sometimes-Metal kind of gal. ;) Can't be *too* screamo...like, I prefer Corey Taylor in Stone Sour rather than in Slipknot. But a lot of today's hard rock is right up my alley - Stone Sour, Alter Bridge, Shinedown, Apocalyptica...Slash's new stuff with Myles Kennedy...some Breaking Benjamin...that sort of thing. I got stuck in Grunge for a really long time because the late 90's into the early part of the 2000's was, IMO, another one of those musical wastelands, for the most part. But about 20 months ago (early winter of 2010) I got some suggestions on here for some newer bands I had not previously tried...and that sort of got me moving again....and now I listen to a lot of newer stuff on the hard rock/metal end of the spectrum. Avenged Sevenfold was not one of the suggestions...but the suggestions given got me moving in that direction, and now they are among my top 5 bands of all time. :)

    I'll be honest and say that I will always take Korn over Lady Gaga...I like it hard, and I like it loud:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr3x7tS__dE[/yt]

    ^^This shit right here is MADE. OF. AWESOME!!! :D

    But there is some more recent indie stuff that I'm good with. I do have a very strong attraction to 'quirk'....and most of the indie artists I have enjoyed over the years have been/are quirky. The Shins fall into that category....Death Cab falls into that category until their songs get overplayed and I get annoyed. Beck, in my view, is King Of Quirk - really like Beck. Modest Mouse....CAKE....anything quirky, I usually like.
     
  14. PKTrekGirl

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    Yeah...I think that in particular, Zeppelin winding down was kind of taken as sort of a 'signal' at that time....like the era of "Sex Drugs and Rock 'n Roll!!!" was over...and now we were gonna be stuck in musical hell for who knows how long, listening to Donna Summer have orgasms while singing the same 6 words over and over for 20 minutes. :guffaw:

    Van Halen got up and running just as all hope was lost, however...and then we got a whole flock of new bands from the UK (The Police being chief among them...plus the punk bands like The Clash...and Dire Straits really getting onto our radar over here)...and then I 'discovered' Bruce Springsteen...and things started to look up again. :techman:

    EDIT: Glad you ordered Love Over Gold, Jay...and yeah, the great thing about going back to discover all the great bands of the 70's and 80's (and even the 60's - not sure how much you know about that era...but there is some cool stuff there!) is that alot of the CDs are dirt cheap now! You can pull together a pretty wicked music collection for not much money!

    How old is your dad, by the way? From what you have told me about his vinyl, I'm guessing he is about my age or just a bit older.
     
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    Nice. They sound a bit like The Hoosiers- to some extent.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeNNfS0ZTnU

    I'll be honest, I don't usually go for the really hard stuff. I'm more of a soft rock/indie/indie rock/electronica/classic rock fan, but there's always a few heavier tracks that I like every now and again. I don't go for the metal style 'screaming'. I like Linkin Park, but when the screaming comes in I often cringe. That last one you gave me however, really is quite nice. :)

    Well, here in the UK there's not much chance of DCFC being 'overplayed' as they haven't had much radio play, nor have they charted any higher than #24 in the Albums chart and they've missed the top 60 altogether in singles. I 'found' them because my cousin from South Africa liked them a lot, so I asked about them. I have played Plans loads, but it's different when you put the songs on yourself. ;)
    I know! Even albums from just a few years ago (mid 00s) are really cheap if enough were sold.

    He was 49 earlier this year.
     
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  16. Ar-Pharazon

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    ^ He's 5 years older than me. "Luke, I am your father".

    Still, I was never much into vinyl, outside of 45's. I started getting albums on cassette in the early 80's.

    I've got several never-on-cassette (or CD) albums on vinyl now though. I paid $200 & $80 for (sealed) Quiet Riot I & Quiet Riot II which were never available anywhere but Japan.
     
  17. JayOwl

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    THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

    ;)
     
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    Hummm....not if that link is any indication. The Hoosiers are way too 'poppy' to be close to The Shins - The Shins have a much more stripped down indie sound with less synth, etc. More examples:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ofWi5dIr0&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLC297CF27C5BC04F5[/yt]

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmuVLYfEoQ&feature=related[/yt]


    You mean that Korn track? You liked that? Wow!

    I don't know if you listened to that Avenged Sevenfold track or not...but outside of the very beginning, there is not any screamo on it. True, it's metal...but not screamo metal. ;) I'm not a huge fan of a lot of screamo either. I mean, it's fine here and there in a band's repertoire...but I don't care for a band whose songs are all screamo...or even a band who has screamo in every song. I don't mind it...but it has to be fairly limited.

    And by the way, Avenged Sevenfold is known for having a very wide range, in terms of genres they do well - they are not just about metal, but have a strong reputation for being able to cross genres with amazing ease. True...there are a lot of intense guitar riffs and hard rock/metal songs. But I think you would be very, very surprised.

    About as close to Alt-Country as a metal band gets:
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzX0rhF8buo[/yt]

    Rock Ballad...written by Synyster Gates upon the death of A7X's drummer in December 2009 (the guys in this band grew up together and were all best friends):
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ry4cx6HfY&feature=relmfu[/yt]

    Rock song, really....with a metal-esque guitar solo...but pretty mid-range, really:
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUkoL9RE72o&feature=relmfu[/yt]

    This band even has a song that has a couple of choral sequences in it...and one that starts out metal and ends up with an amazing classical guitar sequence. And yes, I do mean classical guitar. :lol: Don't believe me? Try 4:45 to the end, with 6:00 to the end being purely classical guitar:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GCCKt_Z1q8

    Beginning to understand why I think this band is so talented? :lol: I don't know of any other metal bands (or any bands, PERIOD) that are capable of writing across all those genres, let alone playing across all of them with such technique!



    Yeah...I think what is played here and what is played there must be very different, once you get outside the pure pop realm. The latest Death Cab album was very much promoted over here...but you say you would not have heard of them if it hadn't been for this cousin in SA? Wow! That's incredible...because it would have been impossible to miss them if you lived in the US.

    But then, I'd not heard of The Hoosiers before today...and I see from Wikipedia that they are a UK band. So that explains it, I guess...the other part being that I don't listen to pop stations at all. I do listen sometimes to indie rock stations...but I've never heard them on there....

    Oh...and yeah...your dad and I are pretty close in age...he only has me by a couple of years. Which is about what I expected based on what you have written about his vinyl collection. Mine looks very similar! :)
     
  20. Ar-Pharazon

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    Here's a newer group from Norway/Denmark called Amaranthe. Three vocalists, clean female, clean male & a growler. A little synthy for my normal tastes, but heavy enough to forget that.

    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y25snz83ms[/YT]
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8lV1To-_fU[/YT]
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DbAruY9z-w[/YT]