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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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AudioGene said:
Agreed and in hindsight, I'm glad it came up here before it went public and our audience may have taken the words the wrong way. Thank you.
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Why do you keep saying it's not public? Your initial post said, "Guys we wrote about this issue to get more exposure. Please share!" not "Please proofread before it goes live." Why would you want people to share an incomplete article? Why wouldn't you mention wanting to use the people here to fact check your article, and when they do you get angry about it?

Neil
 
feek61 said:
Well I would like to see one shred of evidence of the 501(c) being applied for other than AP saying so. It takes about a year to do this and they have not even started the paperwork to do it so why even mention it in your article; particularly when they have stated by their own comments and actions that they ARE for profit. It's totally misleading to publish that.
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I will ask Alec Peters for proof of his 501c filling and update before it goes live.
 
Indysolo said:
Why do you keep saying it's not public? Your initial post said, "Guys we wrote about this issue to get more exposure. Please share!" not "Please proofread before it goes live." Why would you want people to share an incomplete article? Why wouldn't you mention wanting to use the people here to fact check your article, and when they do you get angry about it?

Neil
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You're right I should have said peer before sharing. Bad judgement on my part. Thankfully this is a small website with little visibility. So far we've gotten a whopping 35 views to this article from this forum in contrast to over 2 million visits/mo on our site.
 
AudioGene said:
I hope that isn't the case. However you can rest assured if it is proven in the court of law to be, we will do a followup article. We are not fanboys of Axanar or Alec Peters and we will call him out if warranted once the dust settles.

We are sticklers for people/companies that abuse copyright IP and trademarks, etc as you can see in the following examples:

https://www.audioholics.com/news/blue-jeans-strikes-back

https://www.audioholics.com/news/monster-cable-mini-golf
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You must not have any idea how copyright works if you think there is a chance this could actually come out in Axanar's favor.
 
AudioGene said:
You're right I should have said peer before sharing. Bad judgement on my part. Thankfully this is a small website with little visibility. So far we've gotten a whopping 35 views to this article from this forum in contrast to over 2 million visits/mo on our site.
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Probably because it's not worth sharing. It's not an article. It's a deeply flawed opinion piece.

Neil
 
AudioGene said:
Man you guys hang on every word and really can't seem to decipher meaning. "Reinstated" as in "reincorporated" or "refilled" as...

However, I changed to this to be ABSOLUTELY clear:

*Note: Axanar Productions is NOT yet filled as non-profit, though Alec Peters previously claimed they were working on getting classified as a 501(C).
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If you're reporting on a topic, people expect you to be clear and concise with your writing. If not, you open yourself up to misunderstandings and false conclusions based on inaccurate statements. As you can see, you needed to do quite a few more passes at the grammar and word choice in your article before publishing it, to say nothing of the content itself.

AudioGene said:
I will ask Alec Peters for proof of his 501c filling and update before it goes live.
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OtherGene said:
As you appear to be sticking around now AudioGene any messages for all the "Paramount/CBS groupies that living in their moms basement suffering from hurtfeelioma" you referred to earlier?
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Yes but I think it's best delivered by Mr. Shatner himself :)
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JHarper said:
I really detest this elitist, holier than thou, attitude. I mean it's not like OldTrek wasn't made to appease the masses, or "dumbed down", or ever recycled plots. At worst NuTrek is guilty of the same sins as the rest of the Franchise, no better or worse than all of it. It's the reason I could never really get into projects like Axanar which are based on this sort of "we know better because we're staying true to the Vision (TM)", in spite of the fact that all evidence indicates that they were making a pretty straight forward shoot'em up film. It's not a bad thing to be that, but it's kind of hard for me to really get into with everything that's been said about it by the people making it.
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This is one aspect of Axanar that I have struggled with in its PR statements. Regardless of personal interest in the project, Axanar doesn't endear itself to me by stating it's "True Trek."

Honestly, looking at both, Axanar is quite similar to Abrams Trek, despite Axanar's vehement denials of Abrams Trek. Rather frustrating to me.
 
JD said:
You must not have any idea how copyright works if you think there is a chance this could actually come out in Axanar's favor.
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Hmm let's see. I'm the owner/founder of the industry's largest audited AV Magazine that deals with copyright on an almost daily basis since I started the site over 16 years ago. Yea I do know a thing or two about it and I am interested in seeing how this lawsuit plays out.
 
AudioGene said:
Hmm let's see. I'm the owner/founder of the industry's largest audited AV Magazine that deals with copyright on an almost daily basis since I started the site over 16 years ago. Yea I do know a thing or two about it and I am interested in seeing how this lawsuit plays out.
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So what you're saying is that I can't trust your site, Audioholics.com, to be unbiased in its various reviews, and that I should also expect the owner of that site to pick fights with people on a Star Trek message board with more than 25,000 members? Good to know.
 
fireproof78 said:
This is one aspect of Axanar that I have struggled with in its PR statements. Regardless of personal interest in the project, Axanar doesn't endear itself to me by stating it's "True Trek."

Honestly, looking at both, Axanar is quite similar to Abrams Trek, despite Axanar's vehement denials of Abrams Trek. Rather frustrating to me.
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Indeed. If it were just like "hey guys we're making a TOS setting action-adventure with good graphics", I'd be all for it.
 
I am a fan and in no way do Axanar or AP speak for me. In regards, to the earlier question as to whether the judge could cite the Washington case: I guess it would depend if there is no relevant case law at the federal level to give him guidance in this case. In precedent setting cases, judges have been known to look around the world for rulings in similar cases.
AudioGene said:
I will ask Alec Peters for proof of his 501c filling and update before it goes live.
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Be prepared for being branded as a "hater" and being excommunicated from the First Church of Axanar.
 
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