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I've said all this before elsewhere, but I don't know if I've shared it here so I'll just say it now.

Alec Peters has no problem attacking others when it suits his needs, or if he feels cornered (because he can't defend his appalling behavior) or if he thinks it will deflect negative attention or focus on his very clear and blatant wrongdoing. Time and again Peters shits on Star Trek Continues and Vic Mignogna in particular, and as recently as a few weeks ago threw his own "good friend" James Cawley under the bus as well.

It doesn't end there, either. The internet is littered with legions of people from various sites -- including here at the TrekBBS (where Peters has been banned three (THREE!) times -- who are sick of his petty, immature and childish behavior. This man-child has no concept, no microscopic sense of the word "accountability" for his own actions, consistently and continuously offloading blame and responsibility for any wrongdoing to others.

Tony Todd isn't with the production anymore? Oh, well that's because he wanted too much money! It can't possibly be that Todd is a respected actor who has worked consistently in Hollywood for over 30 years having issues with Peters' ineptitude as a producer. Perish the thought!

CBS sues because Peters tells everyone that he paid himself nearly $40K to work "full-time" on his fan film? Oh, well that's not fair at all! How is Peters supposed to support himself? It can't possibly be that CBS/Paramount are actually doing their due diligence to protect their property and property rights now that they feel someone has crossed a line beyond their generosity.

And let's not forget that Peters used the money he collected from goodwill of the fans and on the strength of a name and franchise he doesn't own to fund his own for-profit studio... and then announced exactly that plan to the world. That can't possibly be relevant to this case, could it?

As for Axanar "competing" with Star Trek Beyond, give me a fucking break. Prelude was shot well and the visual effects are pretty to look at because unlike Peters and Burnett, Chrisian Gossett and Tobias Richter actually knew what the fuck they were doing. But the piece itself is a glorified interview, a bunch of talking heads up against a green-screen discussing war. War! That's not what STAR TREK is, that's not what STAR TREK ever was, and it's not what STAR TREK is about. I've been more riveted by Bill Moyers interview with Joseph Campbell on Mythology than this sizzle reel, essentially all flash and zero substance but there is no way in any reality (or version of it that conforms to even the most liberal use of the word "reality") where Prelude to Axanar or the shitty Vulcan scene would ever seriously be taken as "competition" for any of Paramount's films. Axanerds claiming this as their defense are even more deluded than Peters if they believe the schlock he's selling them on that one.

The reason CBS and Paramount are suing is likely because Peters, the fool that he is, not only made money off this project but he broadcast it to the world and that -- making money on the STAR TREK IP -- has been, consistently, the one thing CBS and Paramount have said over and over and over again NOT TO DO.

Axanar is the only group that seem to fail to grasp this simple little concept.

New Voyages, Exeter, Continues, Potemkin, Farragut, Valiant, Intrepid, Secret Voyage, Hidden Frontier, Excalibur, Captain Pike, Exeter Trek, Lexington, Dominion, et al... they all play/played by the rules. Alec Peters and Axanar are the ones who have chosen to color outside those lines and are now paying the price for it.

Now, I don't believe that they started out this way intentionally nor do I believe that it was Peters' plan all along to hoodwink so many fans out of $1.1 million. I very much can see the likelihood that "scope creep" could be at fault as much as any of Peters' own stupid hubris and arrogance.

But make no mistake. Peters is arrogant as fuck. He encricles himself with an echo chamber on his Axanar Fan Page on Facebook, where only the "true" fans are safe from being banned. Peters, Burnett and Terry McIntosh are completely incapable of handling even the slightest negative commentary against them or their vanity project, or any critical discussion about anything Axanar or Peters may have done wrong to warrant this lawsuit. Peters himself has an IV of his own Kharn Coffee-flavored Kool-Aid hooked right into his bloodstream and he believes each outrageous and stupid comment he makes until it backfires on him and then he quickly backpedals it all.

Newsflash, Darth Garth: If you only meet one asshole today, they're the asshole. But if EVERYONE you meet today is an asshole, then chances are, YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE.

Alec Peters and Robert Meyer Burnett have spent the better part of the past two years going all over the internet, podcast, convention and social media world loudly proclaiming all their plans for what they would be doing with Axanar, Ares "Studios" and how they'd profit off it while at the same time taking massive conversational shits all over the official Paramount Star Trek films. Now, with this list of infringements, it's hard to defend all the wrongdoing by Peters and his cronies. Even if these jokers survive discovery during trial and somehow win, they still have to face the obvious and looming second reality of all this:

The simple fact is the other studios ABSOLUTELY WILL join in the inevitable and certain appeal CBS and Paramount will launch. You think Disney is going to sit idly by while someone else establishes law that says Joe Blow Trekkie can freely do whatever he wants with Mickey Mouse? Good luck with that.

No, Peters is screwed, and he deserves everything he's getting now, including, weirdly, doxxing himself, which he seems to stupid to realize he has done at least twice since the lawsuit was filed. Relatedly, he has not trouble doxxing others (as happened to me a few weeks ago) but becomes the same enraged hypocrite he becomes on other issues when he inadvertently revealed to someone that his address for Propworx (at the time) was his home address or when @Michael Hinman investigated the property in Florida that we learned later (from Peters himself!) was actually where his godchildren lived.

He's alienated, attacked, cajoled, threatened, trolled, insulted, demeaned, interrogated, bullied, doxxed (himself and others), and annoyed enough people online on FB, Twitter, TrekBBS and the comments sections of every single outlet that bothered to discuss Axanar that those same people are now speaking up.

The only person Peters has to blame for any of this is himself and his own stupid greed, hubris, and inexperience. He is a spoiled brat, a man-child incapable of standing up and taking the heat for his own actions and will be summarily crushed by the legal right CBS has to destroy his bug-eyed stupid ass for infringing on their rightfully-owned property.
 
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I've said all this before elsewhere, but I don't know if I've shared it here so I'll just say it now.

Alec Peters has no problem attacking others when it suits his needs, or if he feels cornered (because he can't defend his appalling behavior) or if he thinks it will deflect negative attention or focus on his very clear and blatant wrongdoing. Time and again Peters shits on Star Trek Continues and Vic Mignogna in particular, and as recently as a few weeks ago threw his own "good friend" James Cawley under the bus as well.

It doesn't end there, either. The internet is littered with legions of people from various sites -- including here at the TrekBBS (where Peters has been banned three (THREE!) times -- who are sick of his petty, immature and childish behavior. This man-child has no concept, no microscopic sense of the word "accountability" for his own actions, consistently and continuously offloading blame and responsibility for any wrongdoing to others.

Tony Todd isn't with the production anymore? Oh, well that's because he wanted too much money! It can't possibly be that Todd is a respected actor who has worked consistently in Hollywood for over 30 years having issues with Peters' ineptitude as a producer. Perish the thought!

CBS sues because Peters tells everyone that he paid himself nearly $40K to work "full-time" on his fan film? Oh, well that's not fair at all! How is Peters supposed to support himself? It can't possibly be that CBS/Paramount are actually doing their due diligence to protect their property and property rights now that they feel someone has crossed a line beyond their generosity.

And let's not forget that Peters used the money he collected from goodwill of the fans and on the strength of a name and franchise he doesn't own to fund his own for-profit studio... and then announced exactly that plan to the world. That can't possibly be relevant to this case, could it?

As for Axanar "competing" with Star Trek Beyond, give me a fucking break. Prelude was shot well and the visual effects are pretty to look at because unlike Peters and Burnett, Chrisian Gossett and Tobias Richter actually knew what the fuck they were doing. But the piece itself is a glorified interview, a bunch of talking heads up against a green-screen discussing war. War! That's not what STAR TREK is, that's not what STAR TREK ever was, and it's not what STAR TREK is about. I've been more riveted by Bill Moyers interview with Joseph Campbell on Mythology than this sizzle reel, essentially all flash and zero substance but there is no way in any reality (or version of it that conforms to even the most liberal use of the word "reality") where Prelude to Axanar or the shitty Vulcan scene would ever seriously be taken as "competition" for any of Paramount's films. Axanerds claiming this as their defense are even more deluded than Peters if they believe the schlock he's selling them on that one.

The reason CBS and Paramount are suing is likely because Peters, the fool that he is, not only made money off this project but he broadcast it to the world and that -- making money on the STAR TREK IP -- has been, consistently, the one thing CBS and Paramount have said over and over and over again NOT TO DO.

Axanar is the only group that seem to fail to grasp this simple little concept.

New Voyages, Exeter, Continues, Potemkin, Farragut, Valiant, Intrepid, Secret Voyage, Hidden Frontier, Excalibur, Captain Pike, Exeter Trek, Lexington, Dominion, et al... they all play/played by the rules. Alec Peters and Axanar are the ones who have chosen to color outside those lines and are now paying the price for it.

Now, I don't believe that they started out this way intentionally nor do I believe that it was Peters' plan all along to hoodwink so many fans out of $1.1 million. I very much can see the likelihood that "scope creep" could be at fault as much as any of Peters' own stupid hubris and arrogance.

But make no mistake. Peters is arrogant as fuck. He encricles himself with an echo chamber on his Axanar Fan Page on Facebook, where only the "true" fans are safe from being banned. Peters, Burnett and Terry McIntosh are completely incapable of handling even the slightest negative commentary against them or their vanity project, or any critical discussion about anything Axanar or Peters may have done wrong to warrant this lawsuit. Peters himself has an IV of his own Kharn Coffee-flavored Kool-Aid hooked right into his bloodstream and he believes each outrageous and stupid comment he makes until it backfires on him and then he quickly backpedals it all.

Newsflash, Darth Garth: If you only meet one asshole today, they're the asshole. But if EVERYONE you meet today is an asshole, then chances are, YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE.

Alec Peters and Robert Meyer Burnett have spent the better part of the past two years going all over the internet, podcast, convention and social media world loudly proclaiming all their plans for what they would be doing with Axanar, Ares "Studios" and how they'd profit off it while at the same time taking massive conversational shits all over the official Paramount Star Trek films. Now, with this list of infringements, it's hard to defend all the wrongdoing by Peters and his cronies. Even if these jokers survive discovery during trial and somehow win, they still have to face the obvious and looming second reality of all this:

The simple fact is the other studios ABSOLUTELY WILL join in the inevitable and certain appeal CBS and Paramount will launch. You think Disney is going to sit idly by while someone else establishes law that says Joe Blow Trekkie can freely do whatever he wants with Mickey Mouse? Good luck with that.

No, Peters is screwed, and he deserves everything he's getting now, including, weirdly, doxxing himself, which he seems to stupid to realize he has done at least twice since the lawsuit was filed. Relatedly, he has not trouble doxxing others (as happened to me a few weeks ago) but becomes the same enrages hypocrite he becomes on other issues when he inadvertently revealed to someone that his address for Propworx (at the time) was his home address or when Michael Hinman investigated the property in Florida that we learned later (from Peters himself!) was actually where his godchildren lived.

He's alienated, attacked, cajoled, threatened, trolled, insulted, demeaned, interrogated, bullied, doxxed (himself and others), and annoyed enough people online on FB, Twitter, TrekBBS and the comments sections of every single outlet that bothered to discuss Axanar that those same people are now speaking up.

The only person Peters has to blame for any of this is himself and his own stupid greed, hubris, and inexperience. He is a spoiled brat, a man-child incapable of standing up and taking the heat for his own actions and will be summarily crushed by the legal right CBS has to destroy his bug-eyed stupid ass for infringing on their rightfully-owned property.

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Alec, Terry and Robert haven't said anything about this yet........but surprisingly, Tobias has (reposting it seems to be the same as a silent endorsement given everything that's been seen/said up to this point)

 
Yeah, I've listened to a majority of the Axanar podcasts. Burnett and Peters take every opportunity to trash the new Trek movies, so I find the camp saying how much they're excited for Beyond a bit disingenuous.

The ass kissing tweets were authored by the PR guy. Not Alec.
 
I've said all this before elsewhere, but I don't know if I've shared it here so I'll just say it now.

Alec Peters has no problem attacking others when it suits his needs, or if he feels cornered (because he can't defend his appalling behavior) or if he thinks it will deflect negative attention or focus on his very clear and blatant wrongdoing. Time and again Peters shits on Star Trek Continues and Vic Mignogna in particular, and as recently as a few weeks ago threw his own "good friend" James Cawley under the bus as well.

It doesn't end there, either. The internet is littered with legions of people from various sites -- including here at the TrekBBS (where Peters has been banned three (THREE!) times -- who are sick of his petty, immature and childish behavior. This man-child has no concept, no microscopic sense of the word "accountability" for his own actions, consistently and continuously offloading blame and responsibility for any wrongdoing to others.

Tony Todd isn't with the production anymore? Oh, well that's because he wanted too much money! It can't possibly be that Todd is a respected actor who has worked consistently in Hollywood for over 30 years having issues with Peters' ineptitude as a producer. Perish the thought!

CBS sues because Peters tells everyone that he paid himself nearly $40K to work "full-time" on his fan film? Oh, well that's not fair at all! How is Peters supposed to support himself? It can't possibly be that CBS/Paramount are actually doing their due diligence to protect their property and property rights now that they feel someone has crossed a line beyond their generosity.

And let's not forget that Peters used the money he collected from goodwill of the fans and on the strength of a name and franchise he doesn't own to fund his own for-profit studio... and then announced exactly that plan to the world. That can't possibly be relevant to this case, could it?

As for Axanar "competing" with Star Trek Beyond, give me a fucking break. Prelude was shot well and the visual effects are pretty to look at because unlike Peters and Burnett, Chrisian Gossett and Tobias Richter actually knew what the fuck they were doing. But the piece itself is a glorified interview, a bunch of talking heads up against a green-screen discussing war. War! That's not what STAR TREK is, that's not what STAR TREK ever was, and it's not what STAR TREK is about. I've been more riveted by Bill Moyers interview with Joseph Campbell on Mythology than this sizzle reel, essentially all flash and zero substance but there is no way in any reality (or version of it that conforms to even the most liberal use of the word "reality") where Prelude to Axanar or the shitty Vulcan scene would ever seriously be taken as "competition" for any of Paramount's films. Axanerds claiming this as their defense are even more deluded than Peters if they believe the schlock he's selling them on that one.

The reason CBS and Paramount are suing is likely because Peters, the fool that he is, not only made money off this project but he broadcast it to the world and that -- making money on the STAR TREK IP -- has been, consistently, the one thing CBS and Paramount have said over and over and over again NOT TO DO.

Axanar is the only group that seem to fail to grasp this simple little concept.

New Voyages, Exeter, Continues, Potemkin, Farragut, Valiant, Intrepid, Secret Voyage, Hidden Frontier, Excalibur, Captain Pike, Exeter Trek, Lexington, Dominion, et al... they all play/played by the rules. Alec Peters and Axanar are the ones who have chosen to color outside those lines and are now paying the price for it.

Now, I don't believe that they started out this way intentionally nor do I believe that it was Peters' plan all along to hoodwink so many fans out of $1.1 million. I very much can see the likelihood that "scope creep" could be at fault as much as any of Peters' own stupid hubris and arrogance.

But make no mistake. Peters is arrogant as fuck. He encricles himself with an echo chamber on his Axanar Fan Page on Facebook, where only the "true" fans are safe from being banned. Peters, Burnett and Terry McIntosh are completely incapable of handling even the slightest negative commentary against them or their vanity project, or any critical discussion about anything Axanar or Peters may have done wrong to warrant this lawsuit. Peters himself has an IV of his own Kharn Coffee-flavored Kool-Aid hooked right into his bloodstream and he believes each outrageous and stupid comment he makes until it backfires on him and then he quickly backpedals it all.

Newsflash, Darth Garth: If you only meet one asshole today, they're the asshole. But if EVERYONE you meet today is an asshole, then chances are, YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE.

Alec Peters and Robert Meyer Burnett have spent the better part of the past two years going all over the internet, podcast, convention and social media world loudly proclaiming all their plans for what they would be doing with Axanar, Ares "Studios" and how they'd profit off it while at the same time taking massive conversational shits all over the official Paramount Star Trek films. Now, with this list of infringements, it's hard to defend all the wrongdoing by Peters and his cronies. Even if these jokers survive discovery during trial and somehow win, they still have to face the obvious and looming second reality of all this:

The simple fact is the other studios ABSOLUTELY WILL join in the inevitable and certain appeal CBS and Paramount will launch. You think Disney is going to sit idly by while someone else establishes law that says Joe Blow Trekkie can freely do whatever he wants with Mickey Mouse? Good luck with that.

No, Peters is screwed, and he deserves everything he's getting now, including, weirdly, doxxing himself, which he seems to stupid to realize he has done at least twice since the lawsuit was filed. Relatedly, he has not trouble doxxing others (as happened to me a few weeks ago) but becomes the same enraged hypocrite he becomes on other issues when he inadvertently revealed to someone that his address for Propworx (at the time) was his home address or when @Michael Hinman investigated the property in Florida that we learned later (from Peters himself!) was actually where his godchildren lived.

He's alienated, attacked, cajoled, threatened, trolled, insulted, demeaned, interrogated, bullied, doxxed (himself and others), and annoyed enough people online on FB, Twitter, TrekBBS and the comments sections of every single outlet that bothered to discuss Axanar that those same people are now speaking up.

The only person Peters has to blame for any of this is himself and his own stupid greed, hubris, and inexperience. He is a spoiled brat, a man-child incapable of standing up and taking the heat for his own actions and will be summarily crushed by the legal right CBS has to destroy his bug-eyed stupid ass for infringing on their rightfully-owned property.
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As for Axanar "competing" with Star Trek Beyond, give me a fucking break. Prelude was shot well and the visual effects are pretty to look at because unlike Peters and Burnett, Chrisian Gossett and Tobias Richter actually knew what the fuck they were doing. But the piece itself is a glorified interview, a bunch of talking heads up against a green-screen discussing war. War! That's not what STAR TREK is, that's not what STAR TREK ever was, and it's not what STAR TREK is about.

I had hoped that as more people got involved they could somehow de-pewpew it with their combined credibility. Says it all that respected professionals couldn't.

I've been more riveted by Bill Moyers interview with Joseph Campbell on Mythology than this sizzle reel

Now, play fair! :lol: That's like comparing Mentos commercials with Shakespeare.


...and I know where you are coming from, AP has tried to do Trek things with varying success, but he just hopelessly seems determined to be the controller of people, rather than a participant. He clearly thinks the intentional civility of this fan community is weakness, rather than a higher evolution of maturity than he has accomplished.
 
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I've said all this before elsewhere, but I don't know if I've shared it here so I'll just say it now.

Alec Peters has no problem attacking others when it suits his needs, or if he feels cornered (because he can't defend his appalling behavior) or if he thinks it will deflect negative attention or focus on his very clear and blatant wrongdoing. Time and again Peters shits on Star Trek Continues and Vic Mignogna in particular, and as recently as a few weeks ago threw his own "good friend" James Cawley under the bus as well.

It doesn't end there, either. The internet is littered with legions of people from various sites -- including here at the TrekBBS (where Peters has been banned three (THREE!) times -- who are sick of his petty, immature and childish behavior. This man-child has no concept, no microscopic sense of the word "accountability" for his own actions, consistently and continuously offloading blame and responsibility for any wrongdoing to others.

Tony Todd isn't with the production anymore? Oh, well that's because he wanted too much money! It can't possibly be that Todd is a respected actor who has worked consistently in Hollywood for over 30 years having issues with Peters' ineptitude as a producer. Perish the thought!

CBS sues because Peters tells everyone that he paid himself nearly $40K to work "full-time" on his fan film? Oh, well that's not fair at all! How is Peters supposed to support himself? It can't possibly be that CBS/Paramount are actually doing their due diligence to protect their property and property rights now that they feel someone has crossed a line beyond their generosity.

And let's not forget that Peters used the money he collected from goodwill of the fans and on the strength of a name and franchise he doesn't own to fund his own for-profit studio... and then announced exactly that plan to the world. That can't possibly be relevant to this case, could it?

As for Axanar "competing" with Star Trek Beyond, give me a fucking break. Prelude was shot well and the visual effects are pretty to look at because unlike Peters and Burnett, Chrisian Gossett and Tobias Richter actually knew what the fuck they were doing. But the piece itself is a glorified interview, a bunch of talking heads up against a green-screen discussing war. War! That's not what STAR TREK is, that's not what STAR TREK ever was, and it's not what STAR TREK is about. I've been more riveted by Bill Moyers interview with Joseph Campbell on Mythology than this sizzle reel, essentially all flash and zero substance but there is no way in any reality (or version of it that conforms to even the most liberal use of the word "reality") where Prelude to Axanar or the shitty Vulcan scene would ever seriously be taken as "competition" for any of Paramount's films. Axanerds claiming this as their defense are even more deluded than Peters if they believe the schlock he's selling them on that one.

The reason CBS and Paramount are suing is likely because Peters, the fool that he is, not only made money off this project but he broadcast it to the world and that -- making money on the STAR TREK IP -- has been, consistently, the one thing CBS and Paramount have said over and over and over again NOT TO DO.

Axanar is the only group that seem to fail to grasp this simple little concept.

New Voyages, Exeter, Continues, Potemkin, Farragut, Valiant, Intrepid, Secret Voyage, Hidden Frontier, Excalibur, Captain Pike, Exeter Trek, Lexington, Dominion, et al... they all play/played by the rules. Alec Peters and Axanar are the ones who have chosen to color outside those lines and are now paying the price for it.

Now, I don't believe that they started out this way intentionally nor do I believe that it was Peters' plan all along to hoodwink so many fans out of $1.1 million. I very much can see the likelihood that "scope creep" could be at fault as much as any of Peters' own stupid hubris and arrogance.

But make no mistake. Peters is arrogant as fuck. He encricles himself with an echo chamber on his Axanar Fan Page on Facebook, where only the "true" fans are safe from being banned. Peters, Burnett and Terry McIntosh are completely incapable of handling even the slightest negative commentary against them or their vanity project, or any critical discussion about anything Axanar or Peters may have done wrong to warrant this lawsuit. Peters himself has an IV of his own Kharn Coffee-flavored Kool-Aid hooked right into his bloodstream and he believes each outrageous and stupid comment he makes until it backfires on him and then he quickly backpedals it all.

Newsflash, Darth Garth: If you only meet one asshole today, they're the asshole. But if EVERYONE you meet today is an asshole, then chances are, YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE.

Alec Peters and Robert Meyer Burnett have spent the better part of the past two years going all over the internet, podcast, convention and social media world loudly proclaiming all their plans for what they would be doing with Axanar, Ares "Studios" and how they'd profit off it while at the same time taking massive conversational shits all over the official Paramount Star Trek films. Now, with this list of infringements, it's hard to defend all the wrongdoing by Peters and his cronies. Even if these jokers survive discovery during trial and somehow win, they still have to face the obvious and looming second reality of all this:

The simple fact is the other studios ABSOLUTELY WILL join in the inevitable and certain appeal CBS and Paramount will launch. You think Disney is going to sit idly by while someone else establishes law that says Joe Blow Trekkie can freely do whatever he wants with Mickey Mouse? Good luck with that.

No, Peters is screwed, and he deserves everything he's getting now, including, weirdly, doxxing himself, which he seems to stupid to realize he has done at least twice since the lawsuit was filed. Relatedly, he has not trouble doxxing others (as happened to me a few weeks ago) but becomes the same enraged hypocrite he becomes on other issues when he inadvertently revealed to someone that his address for Propworx (at the time) was his home address or when @Michael Hinman investigated the property in Florida that we learned later (from Peters himself!) was actually where his godchildren lived.

He's alienated, attacked, cajoled, threatened, trolled, insulted, demeaned, interrogated, bullied, doxxed (himself and others), and annoyed enough people online on FB, Twitter, TrekBBS and the comments sections of every single outlet that bothered to discuss Axanar that those same people are now speaking up.

The only person Peters has to blame for any of this is himself and his own stupid greed, hubris, and inexperience. He is a spoiled brat, a man-child incapable of standing up and taking the heat for his own actions and will be summarily crushed by the legal right CBS has to destroy his bug-eyed stupid ass for infringing on their rightfully-owned property.
Always feels good to vent. Hell, even I feel better, now.
 
He's alienated, attacked, cajoled, threatened, trolled, insulted, demeaned, interrogated, bullied, doxxed (himself and others), and annoyed enough people online on FB, Twitter, TrekBBS and the comments sections of every single outlet that bothered to discuss Axanar that those same people are now speaking up.
This is pretty much the reason why I don't support Axanar anymore. If he hadn't done any of this.. maybe I would have given him the benefit of the doubt.. but the whole haters thing was where it started for me.. and I liked Prelude.
 
Since we are venting--- I'll double post something I stuck on the "I Stand with Awesome" FB page.

Oh, and the Mike Bawden referenced is the PR guy for Axanar who has established diplomatic relations with the "I Stand with Amazing" FB people.

Oh, and I changed "illegal" to "unlawful" just for you @Michael Hinman


I wanted to address something that Mr. Mike Bawden stated/asked in a past post, that has now been buried under an avalanche of new material.
The crux of his comments was that if another producer/fan film creator was engaged in raising money from his fans to attend a convention, would "we" be as upset or is it simply our animus towards Alec that is motivating our nit-picking?
That theme has been repeatedly played over the past few months, and even though it was couched in PR-speak I wish to address that claim.
I don't know Alec Peters, and have never worked with him. I did not donate to Axanar, so he hasn't "taken" my money. I imagine that if I sat down with him and had some sushi - IF we agreed to talk only Star Trek - we would have a lot in common.
I don't wish to see him personally ruined or financially drained. Personal animus towards Alec does not motivate my comments, and the continued suggestion that there is a personal element to this entire business is something I find distasteful.
Alec's ACTIONS are at the center of this issue.
Now the obvious response from Magic Mike would be "How do his actions significantly differ from those of any other fan film producer?"
Well that's the $38,000 question, isn't it?
First, that question sidesteps an important point.
Alec's rhetoric and fund raising behavior repeatedly demonstrate that HE planned to be more than just a "fan film" producer, he planned to be the head of an entire entertainment conglomerate - one that used the foundation of CBS IP not as a "tribute" but as a revenue source. He is not comparable to Vic Mignogna or James Cawley, etc. because his stated goals and his activities diverged from theirs so significantly that he became something unique - the head of a rival production company.

Second, that question is easily answered by the reams of available evidence of his callous disregard for fans that disagreed with his vision, or even attempted to clarify that vision as well as his repeated attempts to burnish his reputation at the expense of officially licensed CBS products and even other fan films.

Third, by attempting to link Alec in a simple "apples to apples" comparison with other fan film producers, the question AGAIN attempts to minimize opposition to Alec's actions in the fan community or at the very least attempts to get the individual to question his or her motives, and perhaps reduce the volume of their opposition in the future.

Here's the truth:

Alec Peters attempted to do MORE than create a fan film, he attempted to create an entertainment company, and rather than do so on the foundation of original material, he did so while committing (alleged) unlawful copyright infringement.
Alec Peters used his (alleged) infringing material as the "bait" for continued donations and fundraisers, repeatedly moving completion dates as donations went to the creation of his entertainment company while simultaneously showing small bits of progress so as to maintain excitement for one element of his overall business plan.
Alec Peters repeatedly used donor funds to promote one element of his overall business plan at various sci-fi conventions, while quietly avoiding significant discussion of his overall business plan at those same conventions.
Alec Peters repeatedly refused to disclose potentially negative developments in his overall business plan, and attempted to place a veneer of legitimacy by releasing documents that purported to be a "financial report" yet were not prepared by an accredited financial professional nor were thorough and complete in their scope. By redacting or "not including" significant figures, he revealed that his "financial report" was nothing more than yet another way to encourage donations to his overall business plan.

Once the lawsuit was announced - he engaged in erratic and unwise behavior:
Using threatening language to address people he considered to be too critical.
Repeatedly using psuedolegal arguments to persuade individuals that he was in the right.
Repeatedly using sophmoric arguments like 'well everyone else is doing it - why can't we?" that conveniently ignored all the uniquely improper behavior that Axanar Productions had engaged in prior to the suit
Continuing to accept even more funds in a "retroactive" manner - ostensibly for more "perks" that were based on a short film that was full of alleged IP infringements.
Closing the ranks of his "fans" and encouraging some to engage in improper and unbalanced behavior.
Callously disregarding those who had donated less funds than he considered significant, lying about the reasons of a prominent actor's departure from the production, viciously attacking his own loyal fans with inflammatory statements, and other erratic and disastrous behavior.
Ignoring the improper and inflammatory behavior of his closest colleagues.

Finally, he hasn't produced what he promised, and he hasn't even gotten close. He has turned this "film" into an eternal bait and switch, regularly and repeatedly encouraging more and more donations, raising his budgetary goals, and glossing over the immense financial costs of his business plan.

So in short - he hasn't delivered, he hasn't told the truth, he hasn't treated his fans with any respect, he hasn't treated the fan film community with respect, and he hasn't made any changes to show that he grasps the huge mistake he has made. His actions may significantly impact the fan film community, his rhetoric has served to inflame divisions in the Star Trek fan community, and his intransigence has turned "Axanar" into a cautionary tale/joke.

He isn't like any other producer or fan film creator, and he will never be treated as such.
 
Well the amended claim finally officially answers one question Myself, @Michael Hinman, and few others were debating about this past summer. If Paramount has Star Trek ownership rights or is just a license holder. Turns out they not a license holder and do have own the official film rights to Star Trek, While CBS owns the TV rights. Since the split in 2006 this has never been officially clarified until now.

So Mike H, you won that one ;) Still, this summer I was right (see my old posts) about them launching a series in 2017, and also that contractually CBS had to wait until after the 3rd film (STB) is released before CBS can launch a new series. Les Moonves recently stated this was case last week, confirming that.

Nothing against you, Tom, but it's not that I am a good guesser. :) That is what I was told, back in 2008. And it already was verified to me with the first version of this complaint, because a licensee could not be a party in a copyright infringement claim — at least not as the plaintiff. No more than Pocket Books or Creation Entertainment.
 
Odd that he would say that, considering that the ACTUAL owners are paying him millions to make their movie, and he is benefiting quite directly from their legal ownership, and by extension, their enforcement.

It's likely he is only going by the THR story, which provides shitty context. If he knew all the details, he would likely be singing a different tune. :)
 
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