Chapel in the movies

The ST2 Captain of Excelsior lines hardly constitute a scene, they are just dialog trims in an existing scene.

As to the "pensions" the ST5 budget for cast was significantly higher than for the three previous films, but without a specific breakdown it's difficult to say what that actually means. Notice that the "other" above the line costs for ST5 went up significantly as well, so it's not just the actors who got a bump.

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I would have liked to see Riley again, but it was fun seeing Christian Slater on Star Trek.

How do we know they hadn't met a long time before?

According to the novelization, that woman was Kirk's ex-contract wife, Admiral Lori Ciana. It never did make sense to me why she would be transporting up to the ship.

Well, Chapel knew how to cook plomeek soup and Rand played Solitaire and talked to plants. Hopefully she found something else to do after she quit investing hours a day weaving her hair into a basket.

Persis Khambatta had what would be, to North American audiences, a rather exotic accent. So her ethnicity helped audiences perceive her character as exotically alien.

 

Those are very interesting numbers Maurice; what's the source for that chart?

I always attributed TFF's failings mainly to its inflated above the line costs, with Shatner ambitious and well-intentioned but Nimoy phoning it in but both taking full advantage of their "favored nations" clauses in milking the budget to the detriment of production values. The extensive, expensive Yosemite and Mojave location shooting also cost a bundle (much of the "other" figure in the chart) but added surprisingly little to the film IMO.

I simply cannot wrap my head around those VFX and sets figures for TFF though! There has to be more to the story on how the incompetent Ferren and Associates got that gig (just as Return to Tomorrow sadly sheds little new light on the TMP/ASTRA affair - by far my biggest disappointment with that otherwise amazing book).

 

Bran Ferren and Associates had to have outbid other, better effects houses once Shatner decided to not go with the third(?) string crew from ILM. Having seen their work in other films, I can honestly say I think they spend all their time on one effect to make it look as good as they can, and do as little as possible to make the rest, just enough to justify the expense.

 

That's VERY interesting information, Therin. I've never heard that before. Sounds like a nice thing for Shatner to do, even if he was doing it for self-interest in getting his film off the ground.

Tough position for the supporting cast to be in. Each Trek film they did only enhanced the typecasting they suffered as the result of Trek, but those same film appearances were probably their most substantial paydays as actors. That's got to tough to turn down, especially if you then have to answer "So why did you leave Star Trek?" questions for the rest of your life.

 

It is interesting. I expect the actors were very conflicted, because Star Trek had become their bread and butter, but they were deeply unsatisfied that it was all they were being asked to do.

Doohan in particular seemed to be typecast into actually playing parodies/variations of Scotty for the whole rest of his career ('Loaded Weapon 1', 'Knight Rider 2000', etc).

 

I had no idea about the Australian edition. That puts an interesting new angle on Kirk's personal life between the end of his five-year voyage and TMP.

I haven't read those other novels, either. I'm decades behind on some of the ST novel miniseries.

Doohan was on a soap for awhile, The Bold and the Beautiful. Yes, he played a Scottish character, but it wasn't over the top. He was brought on to play the father of an existing character. I watched some of his episodes, and he wasn't bad. I didn't see all of them, though, since I wasn't familiar enough with the soap to make sense of the overall storyline.

I read about Nichelle Nichols recruiting female astronauts for awhile; was she paid for this? (I hope!)

 

I do remember seeing him in a Disney Channel movie sometime in the early 2000s, this time playing an Englishman, but it wasn't much of a stretch from his standard Scotty.

 

I vividly remember James Doohan on a episode of Hotel, with obvious and awkward staging to hide his missing finger when he reaches out to shake another character's hand. The director had the female lead, Anne Francis, put her hand out in front of James Doohan's to block the camera's view.

 

The numbers are from a memo written by Ralph Winter during the planning of Star Trek VI. I just put them into a spreadsheet to do the percentage breakdowns.

 

If you think about it, wouldn't Ilia have worn just about everything in her wardrobe, including accessories, that she brought to the ship? Unless they were brand new.

Of course she had worn the headband.

 

I wasn't questioning that part. I was questioning when Chapel would've had a chance to see Ilia wear it.

 

Maybe Christine helped her unpack?

I mean, how would Christine know which headband Ilia was referring to, even if Ilia only brought one? Christine must have actually seen it at some point.

 

And again, that must've one compelling conversation between the two of them.

Ilia: I wore this headband once.
Chapel: Um, yeah. No shit. It's in your suitcase, chick.

 

^ You've never sat and listen to two women talking clothes, have you?

"I haven't wore these yet, just got 'em at this hot botic. Now this headband I did wear once."

"It's so cute."

"Isn't it !!!"

 

Like most men, I tend to just automatically tune that out.

 

Boutique, T'Girl, boutique. Botic looks like something you'd inject.

Ilia probably told Chapel what the headband was for, and Chapel thought it might stir some strong memories.