"Zero Tolerance' sucks

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Spelled "Zero" wrong

This story angers me, so very much.

As does this story.

But this is not the beginning. I remember reading about a valedictorian that had helped someone move and a butter knife was left in his/her truck and that kid was suspended and was kept from graduating because he or she "brought in a weapon."

I think zero tolerance is about the same as leaving out empathy from the equation. Might as well create machines or computers to both create and enforce policy, because all zero tolerance does is treat people like they are no human and don't make mistakes.

 

[Miss Chicken]

I think the boy getting suspended over the 'finger gun' is silly. When I was young kids used to play cowboys/soldiers in the playground using fingers/sticks etc. We also had cap-guns and water pistols at home to play with.

The boy being suspended for three days for bringing beer to school is fair in my opinion. He should be old enough not to make such a 'mistake' and I don't think the school should take his word that it was a mistake. The 60 days at an alternative was not needed IMO.

 

[Pingfah]

Zero tolerance policies are just an excuse for those in charge to avoid having to think about, or take responsibility for any of their decisions.

 

[Amaris]

Agreed. I've said it many times before, but "zero tolerance" just means "zero thinking." It's a way to pass the buck without addressing the issue.

 

[mari]

In my local school system, "zero tolerance" applies only to the kids whose parents don't have money/connections. I think I heard the state is now requiring the local schools to get rid of these policies, which would be the most reasonable thing Connecticut has done since banning wild animals as pets after that chimp ripped the lady's face off.

 

[MacLeod]

A possible counter argument in support of zero tolerance means that it thoery it should remove the element of percieved unfairness where one party gets off with an offense whilst another doesn't.

But that doesn't mean everything should be zero tolerance, how many of us when we were younger made gund shapes with our hands? Children will be children and play ops and robbers etc..

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Then there was that one story about a kid who was eating a sandwich and it wound up being eaten in the shape of a gun, and they punished him...

 

[Robert Maxwell]

A possible counter argument in support of zero tolerance means that it thoery it should remove the element of percieved unfairness where one party gets off with an offense whilst another doesn't.

But that doesn't mean everything should be zero tolerance, how many of us when we were younger made gund shapes with our hands? Children will be children and play ops and robbers etc..

This assumes that "zero tolerance" rules don't get bent when you have the right last name, connections, etc., which is assuming an awful lot.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I have zero tolerance for zero tolerance.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ You just blew my mind.

 

[Shik]

In my local school system, "zero tolerance" applies only to the kids whose parents don't have money/connections. I think I heard the state is now requiring the local schools to get rid of these policies, which would be the most reasonable thing Connecticut has done since banning wild animals as pets after that chimp ripped the lady's face off.

Next up: find out what it was that drove Joe Lieberman & Dick Blumenthal batshit-fucking-crazy. And find out how to reanimate Ella Grasso. That woman could kick some serious ass.

 

[auntiehill]

Oh, for God's sake.......

When did logic, reason and rational thought become so rare? When dealing with kids, all an adult needs is a little common sense. Apparently, that is no longer a job requirement. They must simply blindly follow regulations, whether they make any sense or not.

 

[Green Shirt]

Then there was that one story about a kid who was eating a sandwich and it wound up being eaten in the shape of a gun, and they punished him...

Is this the same incident as the poptart gun?

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Then there was that one story about a kid who was eating a sandwich and it wound up being eaten in the shape of a gun, and they punished him...

Is this the same incident as the poptart gun?

I'll check, but I think it is!
Thanks

 

[shapeshifter]

Picard's Greatest Line: "There can be no justice so long as laws are absolute!"

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Picard's Greatest Line: "There can be no justice so long as laws are absolute!"

Very good point! Even as a kid I always appreciated and agreed with that line!

 

[sonak]

"zero tolerance" approaches are much like "tough on crime" approaches in that they are counter-productive in solving the problems they are meant to address, but it makes a good slogan and is appealing to people who have disdain toward nuance and critical thinking.