If they put you in charge of star trek canon what would u make canon or keep out?
you were in charge of star trek canon
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I'd do exactly what they already do - give writers freedom to keep or drop elements of Trek they did/didn't like, and try to ensure any new Trek remained consistent. This: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BroadStrokes
I'd declare all of Enterprise a holodeck novel written by Riker.
I'd declare all of Voyager a series of dreams Janeway had on her way to take command.
I'd declare ST:V to be a story told by Kirk, McCoy and Spock over a campfire.
I'd declare JJ Trek a sad mistake that never should have happened.
The rest, good and bad, stays in.
I'd declare all of Voyager a series of dreams Janeway had on her way to take command.
I'd declare ST:V to be a story told by Kirk, McCoy and Spock over a campfire.
I'd declare JJ Trek a sad mistake that never should have happened.
The rest, good and bad, stays in.
Were I in charge of canon? Anything I liked would be canon, anything I didn't wouldn't. Which is basically what everyone who posts in this thread is going to say.
Decanonized: "Star Trek: Voyager" and "Enterprise". They never happened.
Decanonized films: "Star Trek: First Contact", "Star Trek: Insurrection" and most importantly: "Star Trek: Nemesis". They never happened.
Pon far: gone.
Words about never seeing the Ferengi before, gone.
The whole dumb idea the Federation had no contact with the Romulans for 40 years: GONE.
The following TNG episodes are decanonized (off the top of my head):
"Code of Honor"
"The Chase"
"Sub Rosa"
The Enterprise E: GONE. I'll pull a D.S.9. here and say they got another Federation Galaxy-class ship and re-named it the Enterprise.
Not every Ferengi is as the matured ones brought to us on D.S.9. and some are the equivilant of back space thieves as portrayed in early TNG, though not as bad. Some color is added that way and gives more to play with.
Having read earlier today the Ain't it Cool news article from years ago about the un-named "Star Trek: The Academy Years" film, I'm inclined to want to make it canon.
J.J. is decanonized. Scratch that -- he'll be shot out of a cannon. Punch this, Lensflare Man.
I'm having trouble on what to do about other things, such as the Great Barrier, Star Trek: There Be Whales, and appearances of aliens vs. their appearances on TOS, among other things.
Decanonized films: "Star Trek: First Contact", "Star Trek: Insurrection" and most importantly: "Star Trek: Nemesis". They never happened.
Pon far: gone.
Words about never seeing the Ferengi before, gone.
The whole dumb idea the Federation had no contact with the Romulans for 40 years: GONE.
The following TNG episodes are decanonized (off the top of my head):
"Code of Honor"
"The Chase"
"Sub Rosa"
The Enterprise E: GONE. I'll pull a D.S.9. here and say they got another Federation Galaxy-class ship and re-named it the Enterprise.
Not every Ferengi is as the matured ones brought to us on D.S.9. and some are the equivilant of back space thieves as portrayed in early TNG, though not as bad. Some color is added that way and gives more to play with.
Having read earlier today the Ain't it Cool news article from years ago about the un-named "Star Trek: The Academy Years" film, I'm inclined to want to make it canon.
J.J. is decanonized. Scratch that -- he'll be shot out of a cannon. Punch this, Lensflare Man.
I'm having trouble on what to do about other things, such as the Great Barrier, Star Trek: There Be Whales, and appearances of aliens vs. their appearances on TOS, among other things.
And if somethings conflict with each other, well isn't that just the way life is?
If it really bothers you, think of a way to make both (or more) opposing factoids work with equal validity in-universe. If need be, someone was lying, they were mistaken, they learned it wrong in school.
Gary Mitchell was referring to an old joke.
Vulcan was never conquered, but Sarek's people were.
Money both does and doesn't exist, both are true (somehow).
I'm not the biggest fan of "retcon," employing it should be a weapon of last resort. That said imho Q and all his kind should be removed from canon, only because I personally can't stand him. I'd also lose ST: Enterprise' idea that the NX-01 was the first real long range starship, it doesn't agree with what was said in the previous four series and in this case I don't think there anyway to work it in to the overall continuity.
Yes, I think there is a overall workable continuity.
If it really bothers you, think of a way to make both (or more) opposing factoids work with equal validity in-universe. If need be, someone was lying, they were mistaken, they learned it wrong in school.
Gary Mitchell was referring to an old joke.
Vulcan was never conquered, but Sarek's people were.
Money both does and doesn't exist, both are true (somehow).
I'm not the biggest fan of "retcon," employing it should be a weapon of last resort. That said imho Q and all his kind should be removed from canon, only because I personally can't stand him. I'd also lose ST: Enterprise' idea that the NX-01 was the first real long range starship, it doesn't agree with what was said in the previous four series and in this case I don't think there anyway to work it in to the overall continuity.
Yes, I think there is a overall workable continuity.
The damage was done with "James T. Kirk".
I'd declare one of the Enterprise-D's in the background of "Parallels" to be the only canon starship in the only canon universe.
I would leave it all as is (even "Spock's Brain" and "Threshold" 
), but I would canonize my personal pet theory that everything seen starting with "Enterprise" and running through the Abrams movies is a parallel universe (or parallel multiverse, I guess, with the Temporal Cold War) that resulted from the events of Star Trek: First Contact.
), but I would canonize my personal pet theory that everything seen starting with "Enterprise" and running through the Abrams movies is a parallel universe (or parallel multiverse, I guess, with the Temporal Cold War) that resulted from the events of Star Trek: First Contact.The borg one!
Due to my moniker, if nothing else, I would leave everything as it is. Call me unimaginative or naive, but my tendency is to accept the good, with the not so good, with the indisputably bad, just like any other human endeavor. It just seems that one would be hard pressed to separate strictly personal dislikes from fundamentally difficult things to integrate into the history, to claim that one would be undertaking such a task with an unambiguous slate. Also, I think it likely, that once started, one would easily find yet another and another, perhaps seeming minor addendum to include, that in the summing up, when or if, the process ever ended, would have the effect of stretching things into a conceptual pretzel.
I would keep Enterprise and JJ Trek movies canon. BUT I would redo them completely differently. Not a "special edition," or a "remastered edition," etc. It would be the official version rebroadcast.
So Enterprise would feature the adventures of Captain Jonathan Stiles aboard the ringship Enterprise.
The JJ movies would become true Kirk-era prequels by starting off the adventures of Captain Robert April. No more parallel universe crap.
But that's bordering on future Trek ideas rather than simply dictating canon. So basically everything stays canon just not Enterprise and JJ Trek in their current forms.
Oh, and Threshold was just Tom Paris' strange dream after watching too many ancient earth movies.
So Enterprise would feature the adventures of Captain Jonathan Stiles aboard the ringship Enterprise.
The JJ movies would become true Kirk-era prequels by starting off the adventures of Captain Robert April. No more parallel universe crap.
But that's bordering on future Trek ideas rather than simply dictating canon. So basically everything stays canon just not Enterprise and JJ Trek in their current forms.
Oh, and Threshold was just Tom Paris' strange dream after watching too many ancient earth movies.
I would leave it all as is (even "Spock's Brain" and "Threshold"
I was just about to post this
The only series that truly sticks out like a sore thumb is Enterprise. I'd jettison it at the first opportunity. Not only because it didn't work as a prequel but because it was a load of shit
There are many many inconsistencies throughout Star Trek but Enterprise just didn't feel like Trek when I watched it. If I was in charge and I was forced to address it I'd have it stated categorically that the Enterprise-E created a separate timeline in First Contact and that Enterprise the series is the only one that takes place in it. The JJ Abrams universe can be part of it or not. It doesn't really make any difference.
And this would be a couple of throwaway lines by the way. I wouldn't waste an episode on explaining Enterprise
Exactly.
If I skip over an episode for any reason it didn't happen. It's not there. It never existed. If you mention it to me I'll respond with a blank look and mumble something about you not talking your medication.
I would cannonize some of the lit-verse. Only the books I liked of course.
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