Re. Unification
I feel even if wasn't for Picard and Spock, the plan would not have been completely successful.
I feel even if wasn't for Picard and Spock, the plan would not have been completely successful.
You are Sela's military advisor. What do you tell her about the invasion plan?
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I would advise to not do it, because it was a stupid plan. Especially if you only have about 2000 soldiers
Advisor: "My audacious plan is to send three ships with slightly over 2000 soldiers, and retake a planet of billions with them. A planet, moreover, that lies deep within our greatest rival's territory, is one of their core planets in fact. A rival that has its population numbering in the trillions, on thousands of planets"
Sela: "That doesn't sound like an audacious plan, more like a lunatic one"
Advisor: "But that's exactly what makes my plan so brilliant! No one will expect us to even try that, let alone actually pull it off!"
Sela: "Now that you put it that way, you've convinced me. Let's go!"
Sela: "That doesn't sound like an audacious plan, more like a lunatic one"
Advisor: "But that's exactly what makes my plan so brilliant! No one will expect us to even try that, let alone actually pull it off!"
Sela: "Now that you put it that way, you've convinced me. Let's go!"
I'd tell her the numbers and just eagerly wait for her to say "Who do you think I am, Admiral Jarok - the one who looked like an older Gilligan? Piffle! Two thousand soldiers only works if we have death star technology and a banana peel named 'Emma', and it's not like the Vulcans have emotions or anything, so anyone slipping on the peel won't get very far either."
I'd rather be Tasha's military advisor, two decades earlier, and give her a hypospray with just enough harmless sedative in it to knock out a four-year-old. End result, Tasha gets back home, and little Sela grows up to be security chief on the Enterprise-E while Worf is busy on DS9.
Depends. I suspect Sela was deliberately encouraged to follow through with this halfcocked nonsense, such that she expected support that would go beyond her initial leg.
Something tells me that her bungling of the Klingon civil war probably did not sit well with folks at home. It's like how they gave Admiral Jarok just enough rope to hang himself, & hoped it might also ensnare some gullible Starfleeters, because they'd known he was a dissenter, who they wanted outed, all the while helping Tomalok save face after his Galorndon Core embarrassment.
Sela, contrarily, is a crusader, with a half-blood chip on her shoulder, & a lot to prove, especially after the Duras debacle, which is equally & oppositely problematic, so they were letting her dig her own grave too, because everybody there was sick of her half-human horses**t.
So... My advice would depend on which master I was most interested in serving. I probably wouldn't be undermining the deeper agenda for her dumb sake.
Something tells me that her bungling of the Klingon civil war probably did not sit well with folks at home. It's like how they gave Admiral Jarok just enough rope to hang himself, & hoped it might also ensnare some gullible Starfleeters, because they'd known he was a dissenter, who they wanted outed, all the while helping Tomalok save face after his Galorndon Core embarrassment.
Sela, contrarily, is a crusader, with a half-blood chip on her shoulder, & a lot to prove, especially after the Duras debacle, which is equally & oppositely problematic, so they were letting her dig her own grave too, because everybody there was sick of her half-human horses**t.
So... My advice would depend on which master I was most interested in serving. I probably wouldn't be undermining the deeper agenda for her dumb sake.
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The plan needs work.
Bring in sleeper agents, move them inside the positions of power, slowly isolate Vulcan and move the soldiers in.
Bring in sleeper agents, move them inside the positions of power, slowly isolate Vulcan and move the soldiers in.
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I wonder if Sela was a political figure at all or perhaps close to some big decision makers?
Could it be that her political opponents wanted this weird attempt to conquer Vulcan happen so Sela and perhaps her close allies would be a complete failure and soon forgotten.
I can't say about her political pull per say, only that her dad had probably been notable enough that she fared well in her career enough to be in some degree of command in human matters.
Sabotaging the Klingons by backing the Duras family was an anti-Federation gambit, as was the Reunification ruse, & I still consider it her that was involved in Geordi's brainwashing for the same sabotage of UFP & Klingon relations
She's been at the forefront of sabotaging humans for a while, & that would seem to be no small matter for their overall interest
But her continued failures have to have had consequences, & I'm betting this fleet to Vulcan idiocy was maybe just to purposely get her dead or captured & finally get her uppity butt out of their hair once & for all... Just like they did old Jarok
^ Makes one wonder: what actually did happen to Sela after that failure?
The Reman mines, if she's lucky.
More likely, the Tal Shiar will interrogate/torture her until she dies.
Even if her father is still alive, there's only so much he could do to keep her out of trouble. Assuming he would want to, of course; he may very well believe that Sela's incompetence constituted betrayal of the Romulan state and thus she's no longer worthy of survival.
(These ARE Romulans we're talking about, after all.
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We never hear from her again, so anything is possible, but we never get a real time follow-up on Tomalok again either, after Picard makes him look like an idiot a 2nd time. Something tells me that these two are not getting any more support afterward, & either end up incarcerated, tortured, dead or any/all of the above.
With her half human blood, she'd have a pretty hard time convincing some leaders that she wasn't tanking her efforts purposefully to aid her mother's people in duplicitous fashion. Expecting duplicity like that is a Romulan hallmark. From their PoV, she's either faking hatred for humans in order to get into positions to help them, OR she's an overzealous nut who has a vendetta against humans & is willing to go to crazy lengths to have at them. Either way... she's a liability.
Disconsidering the JJ movies (easy to do), that's also the last we heard from Spock.
I like to think Sela kept her power and eventually had him killed. She has his skull preserved on a stand in her trophy room like Fascist Picard
I like to think Sela kept her power and eventually had him killed. She has his skull preserved on a stand in her trophy room like Fascist Picard
2000 romulans would have trouble invading a modern earth country, let alone a planet with equal tech.
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