Y R Trek Fans So Against Letting Characters Die?

[Jax]

I don't agree that all character deaths need to be heroic and big though the TRIP death was just awful and so a bit of a big death might of helped there. I don't mind Kirk dying, his character always wanted to die in the line of duty than growing old retired, just because he's KIRK means shit to me, everyone dies. Data's death was well done I thought but a real pity it was in a bad movie. Tashy Yar's death was very LOST and sudden, which made it good IMO, same for Dax.

The greatest TREK death was Spock in TWOK...IMO anyway

 

[Mach5]

The greatest TREK death was Spock in TWOK...IMO anyway

Actually, Spock's death was so awesome that I almost felt sorry they brought him back

 

[Lord Garth]

You don't see NCIS fans calling for Agent Caitlyn Todd to be resurrected

NCIS is not science-fiction.

All shows, no matter the genre (drama, comedy, science fiction, etc.), are stories about people first. To be compelling, and for tension to exist there needs to be a sense of danger to those characters. If even Superman could die, then all characters are could die. As with anything, it's the execution, but even if a death isn't executed well, there better be a damn good reason to resurrect that character or else the storytellers lose the credibility they have left, because storytelling is about committing to a premise and following through with it.

You took what I said out of context. I'm not even sure if you read the rest of my post. I really think you should take another look.

I happen to agree with you about characters dying.

Anyway, I wasn't going with that the way you think. Outside of science-fiction (or fantasy) characters don't come back to life at all because they can't. Unless it was all a dream or a twin magically shows up. Technically it's the truth.

 

[Seven of Five]

I've never been against main characters being killed off, but I have a problem if it's done poorly. Tasha, Kirk, Jadzia, Data and Trip were all bumped off in questionable ways. I have no problems with them being dead, but none of them were as effective as they could have been, IMO.

Spock's death is the one that hits me pretty much every time, because it's done so well. But then they went and resurrected him anyway, for mostly questionable returns.

 

[Dayton3]

One of the things I loathed about StarGate SG:1 (and I did love that show) was that they basically refused to allow characters to die.

Of course, part of the problem was that they had written the ancient technology of the sarcophages into the show early. And one of its clear capabilities was that of reversing physical death if used soon. So to use it early and then ignore it later would be ridiculous.

But the death of recurring character Dr. Janet Fraser (Teryl Rothery) in the series was handled extremely well.

The buildup to it being outstanding and the final revelation.

Personally, I would like to see Trek written like JMS wrote Babylon-5. He wrote his five year story on B-5 with "trapdoors" so that he could replace any of the main characters when he wished and the story would still move forward.

JMS replaced three main characters throughout the series including the main lead.

 

[hellsgate]

I'm (personally) ~all for~ a good character (or two or three) dying. I'm sick of battle scenes where Starfleet comes out nearly, if not, completely unscathed.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

^But Marritza spent all those years off-planet, so he must've had contacts off Cardassia to help him... right? Maybe?

And once it became common knowledge of his guilt, and what he felt when he changed his face... surely they couldn't all react like his murderer did... but maybe thats too optimistic for the time.

Even if some agreed with exposing Cardassia's guilt, or sympathized with him...I think the Obsidian Order would see him as a disruption to order. And depending on how extreme the courts got, I could even see him being put on trial.

So unless his contacts in the dissident movement (assuming he has any) were good, I just can't imagine him having much more of a life expectancy in the Cardassian Union.

 

[Marie1]

Thats true... booo! Poor guy! I guess in that case, at least he died with Kira, who respected him.

The OO had long arms, but do you think the Fed. would have granted him asylum?
Knowing what you do about Cardassians, would he even ask for it? It didn't look like Lang did...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

One of the things that shocked me watching Lost was how major characters just DIED after just a season or whatever. Characters they'd shown a whole backstory for etc.. but it was kind of thrilling too because it was so realistic.

I have nothing against character deaths in Trek but I get pretty annoyed when the death is wasted by being done badly. I did think Trip's death was ludicrous.. and why kill someone on a final ep.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Thats true... booo! Poor guy! I guess in that case, at least he died with Kira, who respected him.

The OO had long arms, but do you think the Fed. would have granted him asylum?
Knowing what you do about Cardassians, would he even ask for it? It didn't look like Lang did...

It's possible...but I don't know. Many Cardassians seem to have a very hard time with cutting their connections to their home, and I think some would rather die than face permanent exile.