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Would you... could you... with the Shat?

FabiusMaximus

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So, you're JJ and it's time for the premiere. Do you invite the old cast to the opening or does that take away the spotlight from the new guys? Would you invite Shatner? Would he go? Do you think he would be a distraction or would his appearance help with publicity? Would you like to see a new cast/old cast photo from the premiere with Quinto next to Nimoy and then Shatner paralleling Pine and so on down the line?
 
I don't see how inviting the other surviving members of the original cast to the premiere would be a bad thing. The new/old cast photo might be a bit sad, since Kelley and Doohan are no longer with us, but any chance to get them together before any more of them pass on would be nice.
 
Why wouldn't they be invited??
JJ reached out to all the surviving TOS actors in the development of this film, so of course they would be invited and encouraged to be there.
 
I bet James Doohan won't even show up. Lately he has been showing a complete lack of interest for his adoring fans. If it weren't for us he wouldn't have made it as far as he did.
 
Would you... could you... with the Shat?
I would not, could not with the Shat!
Not with that rug, not with that fat!
Not TJ Hooker, nor Denny Crane,
To bring him back would be insane!

I do not want to have him here,
Not in the film or at the premiere!
I do not like him and all his dreck,
He's done, you see, he's done with Trek!

With apologies to Dr. Suess...
 
I bet James Doohan won't even show up. Lately he has been showing a complete lack of interest for his adoring fans. If it weren't for us he wouldn't have made it as far as he did.

Is that supposed to be funny? Real man of class right here, folks.

I'm sure they'll all be invited to the premiere. I think it's more likely that Shatner won't show up than him not being invited. If they do all come though, that old/new cast photo would be great to see.
 
Would you... could you... with the Shat?
I would not, could not with the Shat!
Not with that rug, not with that fat!
Not TJ Hooker, nor Denny Crane,
To bring him back would be insane!

I do not want to have him here,
Not in the film or at the premiere!
I do not like him and all his dreck,
He's done, you see, he's done with Trek!

With apologies to Dr. Suess...
I do not like green eggs and ham! :scream:
 
Would you... could you... with the Shat?
I would not, could not with the Shat!
Not with that rug, not with that fat!
Not TJ Hooker, nor Denny Crane,
To bring him back would be insane!

I do not want to have him here,
Not in the film or at the premiere!
I do not like him and all his dreck,
He's done, you see, he's done with Trek!

With apologies to Dr. Suess...

But try him, try him,
And you'll see,
You'll get much pub,
And all for free!

Give him a cameo,
Just a minute or two,
And watch the film's profits
Warp into blue!

He's part of the legend,
He's the best in the biz!
So, give him a try
Says JJ-I-Is!

With apologies to everyone...
 
Would you... could you... with the Shat?
I would not, could not with the Shat!
Not with that rug, not with that fat!
Not TJ Hooker, nor Denny Crane,
To bring him back would be insane!

I do not want to have him here,
Not in the film or at the premiere!
I do not like him and all his dreck,
He's done, you see, he's done with Trek!

With apologies to Dr. Suess...

But try him, try him,
And you'll see,
You'll get much pub,
And all for free!

Give him a cameo,
Just a minute or two,
And watch the film's profits
Warp into blue!

He's part of the legend,
He's the best in the biz!
So, give him a try
Says JJ-I-Is!

With apologies to everyone...
I do not want him in the movie!
I do not think that he is groovy!
I do not like him in Boston Legal,
I do not see him as being regal.

He killed off Kirk and now he cries?
"Too Bad, so sad," is my reply.

I do not want a cameo from that has been Romeo.
So let's reboot, let's start anew.
We'll use a whole new cast and crew!
Let's do it all without the Shat!
Trek sans Bill, Imagine that!
 
Would you... could you... with the Shat?
I would not, could not with the Shat!
Not with that rug, not with that fat!
Not TJ Hooker, nor Denny Crane,
To bring him back would be insane!

I do not want to have him here,
Not in the film or at the premiere!
I do not like him and all his dreck,
He's done, you see, he's done with Trek!

With apologies to Dr. Suess...

But try him, try him,
And you'll see,
You'll get much pub,
And all for free!

Give him a cameo,
Just a minute or two,
And watch the film's profits
Warp into blue!

He's part of the legend,
He's the best in the biz!
So, give him a try
Says JJ-I-Is!

With apologies to everyone...
I do not want him in the movie!
I do not think that he is groovy!
I do not like him in Boston Legal,
I do not see him as being regal.

He killed off Kirk and now he cries?
"Too Bad, so sad," is my reply.

I do not want a cameo from that has been Romeo.
So let's reboot, let's start anew.
We'll use a whole new cast and crew!
Let's do it all without the Shat!
Trek sans Bill, Imagine that!

You win, T'Cal.
You're better than me,
I fear the new movie
To be totally Bill free.

So, it's Quinto's turn,
And along with Pine,
I'm sure these newbies
Will be just fine.

Yet I can't help wonder,
As into space they ride,
Will Nimoy be the same
without o'l Bill at his side?

Okay. I'm done. I'm making myself sick now.
 
Sure you invite them. You wouldn't be there at all if it wasn't for the success of the first cast.
 
For some reason, this reminds me of the time Martin Landau went to the Mission Impossible premiere, and a journalist asked him why he was there.
 
For some reason, this reminds me of the time Martin Landau went to the Mission Impossible premiere, and a journalist asked him why he was there.

That's only because the breadth of knowledge of a typical entertainment journalist is,like, ten minutes ago. Most of them weren't alive when MI was on TV. How they would even know that MI was a TV show is nothing short of a minor miracle.
 
So, you're JJ and it's time for the premiere. Do you invite the old cast to the opening or does that take away the spotlight from the new guys? Would you invite Shatner? Would he go? Do you think he would be a distraction or would his appearance help with publicity? Would you like to see a new cast/old cast photo from the premiere with Quinto next to Nimoy and then Shatner paralleling Pine and so on down the line?
NOT inviting them would be a tremendously bad thing.

Regardless of any REAL rationale behind "why," the question would inevitably be raised, and it would stir up bad feelings all around. The implications, and the assumptions, would be so much harsher than the reality, it would harm everyone (from the old guys to the new guys to the production staffs current and past).

Inviting everyone, from EVERY incarnation of Trek, to the premier would be the only "classy" thing to do. And everyone attending and either saying honestly how much they like it or just giving a "well, it's a fine movie" polite (if totally BS) comment is the only classy thing that the "non-movie-associated" people could do.

Unless someone really wants to stir up "National Enquirer" level gossip and a serious flamefest, that's exactly what'll happen. I wouldn't be surprised if a few folks from various past Trek incarnations just happened to have to wash their hair that night, though... but I'm sure that they'll send along their polite "best wishes" and "regrets" as well.
 
So now the question becomes: Do you invite Trek actors from the TNG/DS9/VOY era? Or do you completely ignore its existence? And what of the ENT cast? Does Berman get an invite? What about Ralph Winter? Nick Meyer? Where do you draw the line? Do you exclude anyone?
 
But try him, try him,
And you'll see,
You'll get much pub,
And all for free!

Give him a cameo,
Just a minute or two,
And watch the film's profits
Warp into blue!

He's part of the legend,
He's the best in the biz!
So, give him a try
Says JJ-I-Is!

With apologies to everyone...
I do not want him in the movie!
I do not think that he is groovy!
I do not like him in Boston Legal,
I do not see him as being regal.

He killed off Kirk and now he cries?
"Too Bad, so sad," is my reply.

I do not want a cameo from that has been Romeo.
So let's reboot, let's start anew.
We'll use a whole new cast and crew!
Let's do it all without the Shat!
Trek sans Bill, Imagine that!

You win, T'Cal.
You're better than me,
I fear the new movie
To be totally Bill free.

So, it's Quinto's turn,
And along with Pine,
I'm sure these newbies
Will be just fine.

Yet I can't help wonder,
As into space they ride,
Will Nimoy be the same
without o'l Bill at his side?

Okay. I'm done. I'm making myself sick now.

Wuss!

Chris Pine! Chris Pine!
Chris Pine! Chris Pine!
Could Kirk be played by young Chris Pine?
He could, he should, he'll do just fine!

With Quinto there in science blue,
The same for Karl Urban, too,
In red we'll see Pegg and Saldana,
In black will be the baddie Bana!
Anton Yelchin and John Cho,
Clad in gold and ready to go.

And nowhere is Shatner, that drama queen,
To change the script or steel a scene,
To kick alien butt with karate kicks,
To save the ship or kiss the chicks.

Pine will do the smirk, the swagger,
He'll be the only hot-chick bagger,
He'll do it well and in a sequel,
Shatner's finally found his equal.
 
Yikes! I think we're stretching the definitions of "trochaic and iambic tetrameter" to their limits. :lol:

(I also suspect we may have gone over the 50-word total used in the original model. ;) )
 
I do not want him in the movie!
I do not think that he is groovy!
I do not like him in Boston Legal,
I do not see him as being regal.

He killed off Kirk and now he cries?
"Too Bad, so sad," is my reply.

I do not want a cameo from that has been Romeo.
So let's reboot, let's start anew.
We'll use a whole new cast and crew!
Let's do it all without the Shat!
Trek sans Bill, Imagine that!

You win, T'Cal.
You're better than me,
I fear the new movie
To be totally Bill free.

So, it's Quinto's turn,
And along with Pine,
I'm sure these newbies
Will be just fine.

Yet I can't help wonder,
As into space they ride,
Will Nimoy be the same
without o'l Bill at his side?

Okay. I'm done. I'm making myself sick now.

Wuss!

Chris Pine! Chris Pine!
Chris Pine! Chris Pine!
Could Kirk be played by young Chris Pine?
He could, he should, he'll do just fine!

With Quinto there in science blue,
The same for Karl Urban, too,
In red we'll see Pegg and Saldana,
In black will be the baddie Bana!
Anton Yelchin and John Cho,
Clad in gold and ready to go.

And nowhere is Shatner, that drama queen,
To change the script or steel a scene,
To kick alien butt with karate kicks,
To save the ship or kiss the chicks.

Pine will do the smirk, the swagger,
He'll be the only hot-chick bagger,
He'll do it well and in a sequel,
Shatner's finally found his equal.

You do not like him, or so you say,
Then answer me this, if you may...

A Klingon cruiser comes off the bow,
It just appeared... we don't know how.
The crew's in a snit, a real tight bind,
And you honestly say your man is Pine?

"No!" cry the crew, "We need our defender!"
The real Captain Kirk, not some young pretender.

And the Shat would appear with a wink and a smile,
And he'd leave those Klingons as a burning pile.
Then he'd blow tiny kisses to all the girls' faces,
While Pine stood around just Smokin' Aces.

Admit it Trekkies, you would if you could,
Shatner is Kirk and in the movie he should.
But it's not worth a fight, and if I had my druthers,
You'd admit you hate Shat cause he got with your mothers!

HA! Wuss indeed....
 
I could not, would not with the Shat;
I could not, would not and that is that!

Since the movie is about the original crew, it would be appropriate to invite the surviving TOS cast members. As for the other series, I don't think it would be an issue if they were not invited unless their series is an integral part of the movie.
 
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