was the romulan war within enterprise's time period?
would we have seen the Romulan war?
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You never know, we still may.
I think Coto would've gotten around too it eventually Unless the Jendresen Romulan War movie script was given the go ahead by Paramount that is. If that movie had happened there wouldn't have been a Romulan war on the show at all.
Probably not, Berman seemed obsessed with the idea of making one or more movies about the war. Maybe we would have seen the beginning, as a lead-in to the film.
The series, at seven seasons, would cover 2151-2158/9, and the movie(s) fill in the period between then and the founding of the Federation.
I would have preferred that they'd done the whole thing in the show, though.
The series, at seven seasons, would cover 2151-2158/9, and the movie(s) fill in the period between then and the founding of the Federation.
I would have preferred that they'd done the whole thing in the show, though.
I've gotten the vibe that Berman didn't view his competition as it aired. Though even so, he must have had some fear that any war he tried to create would fall flat compared to the Dominion War and the Shadow War... I doubt he could even raise to the magesty of Space Above and Beyond.
Coto however? Coin toss.
Coto however? Coin toss.
From a reply I once got from Mike Sussman, that was the plan by the time Manny Coto ran the writing room. Season 5 would almost certainly have been the build up, mixed with various arcs tying up loose threads left over from earlier seasons. So I figure the first salvo would've happened in the cliffhanger, leading into Season 6.
Of course, the proposed script for Star Trek: The Beginning delayed Enteprise from utilizing the war up until 2005. Even the Babel One/United/The Aenar arc only slipped under the radar somehow because of it's Andorian focus.
Of course, the proposed script for Star Trek: The Beginning delayed Enteprise from utilizing the war up until 2005. Even the Babel One/United/The Aenar arc only slipped under the radar somehow because of it's Andorian focus.
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I think UPN or whoever would've shot down the whole idea of a long war arc, even after the Xindi storyline.
I'd have mixed feelings about Archer being main hero in the war, since DS9 did that. Personally, I'd like the crew overshadowed by someone else, or just one of many ships. But there was only two NX class ships, so that means that Enterprise would wind up being pivotal.
Plus at some point someone's gonna discover the Romulans look like and then we have "Starfleet covered it up" angle like with the existence of the Borg (Voyager was responsible for that mess).
I'd have mixed feelings about Archer being main hero in the war, since DS9 did that. Personally, I'd like the crew overshadowed by someone else, or just one of many ships. But there was only two NX class ships, so that means that Enterprise would wind up being pivotal.
Plus at some point someone's gonna discover the Romulans look like and then we have "Starfleet covered it up" angle like with the existence of the Borg (Voyager was responsible for that mess).
Every time someone figures it out T'Pol mindwipes them.
She's known what a Romulan was since season 2's Minefield.
She's known what a Romulan was since season 2's Minefield.
But why?
I mean losing Vulcan as a member for a dozen reasons after outting their ugly origins, is a possibility...
Section 31 vs. The Tal'Shiar?
I mean losing Vulcan as a member for a dozen reasons after outting their ugly origins, is a possibility...
Section 31 vs. The Tal'Shiar?
I think Braga once said something like "how could we ever do much with the Romulans when nobody is supposed to see them anyway". That is ridiculous, especially when he didn't care about the Roms having cloak and other details.
They could make half the crew see the Romulans and it could still have worked
- Vulcan wants to keep it a secret cause they love cover-ups and lying (j/k) and they don't wanna risk their new enlightenment phase by embracing their barbarian cousins.
- Romulans want to keep it a secret because they don't like the Vulcans' way and fear a reunification movement
- Earth wants to keep it secret because they are the Vulcans' puppets anyway.
But what was Braga planning for season 5? More Temporal Cold War.
They could make half the crew see the Romulans and it could still have worked
- Vulcan wants to keep it a secret cause they love cover-ups and lying (j/k) and they don't wanna risk their new enlightenment phase by embracing their barbarian cousins.
- Romulans want to keep it a secret because they don't like the Vulcans' way and fear a reunification movement
- Earth wants to keep it secret because they are the Vulcans' puppets anyway.
But what was Braga planning for season 5? More Temporal Cold War.
I figured it was more of a long distance (ie launching long range weapons at each other) "hot" cold war.
As for the Romulans being shown, it depends on whether the Romulans would self-destruct the ship rather than be taken prisoner and would "disappear" Starfleet POW's. There's a lot of potential if someone was to sit down and map it out.
As for the Romulans being shown, it depends on whether the Romulans would self-destruct the ship rather than be taken prisoner and would "disappear" Starfleet POW's. There's a lot of potential if someone was to sit down and map it out.
The interesting thing is, the only canon info that was not referring to the final battles was Sisko saying that the Jem'Hadar invading Earth could bring about a long-unseen scale of violence
They won't limit themselves to military targets. They'll be waging the kind of war that Earth hasn't seen since the founding of the Federation.
("Homefront").
That might indicate intense warfare during the Romulan War. It was all right there and they chose to go with their TCW crap.
It's also sad we were watching the Xindi council plotting and scheming for one season when we could better have been seeing the Romulan Senate doing just that for the first couple of seasons. Except it could actually have been interesting.
In the meantime, the ENT crew could have been jumping through their hoops, being led on wrong tracks, fighting alien mercenaries (Suliban?)which they thought were the Romulans, always guessing who the Romulans really are- all while the Romulans were planning the annihilation of mankind.
Lots of wasted potential here.
They won't limit themselves to military targets. They'll be waging the kind of war that Earth hasn't seen since the founding of the Federation.
("Homefront").
That might indicate intense warfare during the Romulan War. It was all right there and they chose to go with their TCW crap.
It's also sad we were watching the Xindi council plotting and scheming for one season when we could better have been seeing the Romulan Senate doing just that for the first couple of seasons. Except it could actually have been interesting.
In the meantime, the ENT crew could have been jumping through their hoops, being led on wrong tracks, fighting alien mercenaries (Suliban?)which they thought were the Romulans, always guessing who the Romulans really are- all while the Romulans were planning the annihilation of mankind.
Lots of wasted potential here.
The Romulan war ended at the Battle of Cheron.
A made up word at the time probably.
But it turned out to be an alternate "name/spelling/regional identity" for Charon (Boat dude on the Styx.), one of the moons of Pluto.... Although Pluto isn't a Planet no more so?
A made up word at the time probably.
But it turned out to be an alternate "name/spelling/regional identity" for Charon (Boat dude on the Styx.), one of the moons of Pluto.... Although Pluto isn't a Planet no more so?
I wonder how many bodies have been accidentally tossed overboard in the number of battles we've seen on-screen.
Well, all the Trek names are made up at the time. But the ``Battle of Cheron'' was a name invented for the Next Generation episode ``The Defector''. If it had been meant to be the largest moon of Pluto, presumably they would have used Charon to begin with. (It's ``Cheron'' in the script, if the twiztv.com scripts can be relied on.) Any connection between the Battle of Cheron and the Romulan Wars has not been established to my satisfaction; I would appreciate a line of dialogue from an episode in which such a link is actually made.
I don't see much evidence that the mythological Charon has been spelled ``Cheron'' except as the occasional typo, probably because the figure is pronounced ``kay-run'', making it very hard to change the orthography that way. (The moon of Pluto is often pronounced with a soft `ch', respecting discoverer James Christy's intent -- the name was influenced by the name of his wife, Charlene, and he did not know the mythical figure had a hard `ch'.)
Actually, closer to 1200 for Pluto and ``Cheron'', as opposed to the 481,000 for Pluto and Charon. And since 685 of that first set of pages comes up searching for ``Cheron Pluto Charon'' I stand by the ``typo'' theory.
Possibly complicating things is that there's also the somewhat novel asteroid Chiron, which may inspire typos and confusion as well.
Possibly complicating things is that there's also the somewhat novel asteroid Chiron, which may inspire typos and confusion as well.
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