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Would anyone watch a show in which Harvey Dent is the main character?

Joe Washington

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A show centered on Harvey Dent, the development of his career in the DA office to the point of becoming the Chief DA of Gotham City, his personal life, his relationships, and his tragic descent towards darkness that turns him into Two-Face. Bruce Wayne would play the role of his childhood friend who posses a big secret.
 
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That actually sounds like a brilliant idea, and one that could fly as an extension of the Bat-verse on HBO or something. Make the more theatrical villains sort of ghosts in the night, the Batman himself a barely glimpsed shadowy figure, all seen from Harvey's relatively more normal perspective.

I'd like Bruce to be in it, but Batman should be a peripheral figure.
 
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It would be kind of like a movie about Jesus' carpenter years wouldn't it?
 
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Lawyer show + Batman = Mega popular. I like the way you think.
 
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It'll be like Smallville all over again.

Fans will keep asking stupid questions repeatedly. When will he get acid thrown at his face? When will he gets his coin? When will Batman appear on the show? Answer? Not until the damn show ends!
 
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I could see it as an alternate-reality kind of show - based in the real world, focused on real world things, but with some very distinct differences. Sort of like Kings. Hopefully with more longevity.
 
Re: Would anyone watch a show in which Harvey Dent is the main charact

It'll be like Smallville all over again.

Fans will keep asking stupid questions repeatedly. When will he get acid thrown at his face? When will he gets his coin? When will Batman appear on the show? Answer? Not until the damn show ends!

Unless Dent defeats weird freaks each week with a single punch, doesn't develop as a character and masquerades as a vigilante named "Ying Yang," I'm pretty sure it won't be asked the same Smallville questions.
 
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yeah I would, he's my fave Batman villain! :techman:
 
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It's not a bad idea, but how successful could it be? Dent/Two-Face is well known to comic fans but isn't one of the more iconic Batman characters to mainstream audiences. It would be a hard sell!
 
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Sell it as the Breaking Bad of comic-based TV shows in terms of a seemingly good main character's gradual turn to the dark side. Before acid is thrown in his face, maybe Harvey has to deal with his mental illness (multiple personality disorder which he uses medication to keep suppressed) and bad memories of his abusive childhood caused by his alcholic father while fighting aganist crime through the legal system and with the help of his friend Bruce Wayne and Detective Jim Gordon. Maybe we give him a mother and a sister as family for him to interact with since his father would be dead or just absent from his life when the series opens.
 
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Re: Would anyone watch a show in which Harvey Dent is the main charact

It'll be like Smallville all over again.

Fans will keep asking stupid questions repeatedly. When will he get acid thrown at his face? When will he gets his coin? When will Batman appear on the show? Answer? Not until the damn show ends!


Dent will be frying some bacon and a bit of grease flies into his face.

Dent will be in an accident in season 4 where he's scarred but clay face helps him heal.

We'll be waiting 10 seasons for Dent to become Two-face.
 
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What about a show focusing on Bruce Wayne's lawyers getting into all kinds of corporate intrigue?
 
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Don't know about that Dent focused idea, but someone somewhere posted a comment regarding CAPRICA-style opening credits for a Batman t.v. show.

And it works. Graystone Industries = Wayne Industries. Graveyard...Wayne tombstone. The robot...not so much.

GOTHAM...done in that style, might work. Batman is a rarely glimpsed legend. We see the show from the p.o.v. of Gordon, Dent and other characters, maybe Lucious Fox before he learns the truth. So someone who never heard of Batman, would watch not knowing that Wayne is Batman. But Bruce Wayne is at least a recurring character.

I mean...they made Birds of Prey. And that was...crimefighting babes sans Batman...

And that would never happen...ever.
 
Re: Would anyone watch a show in which Harvey Dent is the main charact

Sell it as the Breaking Bad of comic-based TV shows in terms of a seemingly good main character's gradual turn to the dark side. Before acid is thrown in his face, maybe Harvey has to deal with his mental illness (multiple personality disorder which he uses medication to keep suppressed) and bad memories of his abusive childhood caused by his alcholic father while fighting aganist crime through the legal system and with the help of his friend Bruce Wayne and Detective Jim Gordon. Maybe we give him a mother and a sister as family for him to interact with since his father would be dead or just absent from his life when the series opens.

I believe in Harvey Dent.
 
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It's not a bad idea, but how successful could it be? Dent/Two-Face is well known to comic fans but isn't one of the more iconic Batman characters to mainstream audiences. It would be a hard sell!

I would argue that thanks to the overwhelming success of The Dark Knight, that Harvey Dent/Two Face is more well known to mainstream audiences than most of the rogues gallery.

On topic, I think there's a lot of merit here... especially if it's treated as a law procedural (more or less). It could really flesh out a lot of questions about the legal "reality" of cleaning up after the Batman. I don't know if there's 10 years in the concept (like Smallville), but I would definitely watch the show!
 
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I can see the show as a part-time law procedural show and a part-time character-driven drama in the vein of the Sopranos or Breaking Bad.
 
Re: Would anyone watch a show in which Harvey Dent is the main charact

Sell it as the Breaking Bad of comic-based TV shows in terms of a seemingly good main character's gradual turn to the dark side. Before acid is thrown in his face, maybe Harvey has to deal with his mental illness (multiple personality disorder which he uses medication to keep suppressed) and bad memories of his abusive childhood caused by his alcholic father while fighting aganist crime through the legal system and with the help of his friend Bruce Wayne and Detective Jim Gordon. Maybe we give him a mother and a sister as family for him to interact with since his father would be dead or just absent from his life when the series opens.

If you're actually looking to sell the idea - who is your audience? Smallville has an audience precisely because of all the things comic book fans complain about, teen angst and freak of the week writing, that sets it smack in the middle of a lucrative demographic - teenagers.

Shows like Breaking Bad and the Sopranos have a much older demographic, and much as we might like to deny it, your average adult, who may be happy to go see a superhero movie, isn't nearly as likely to tune in weekly to a superhero tv show. This is not because Breaking Bad and the Sopranos are really any less fantastic than superheroes, but they are perceived as more straight genres - gangsters and drug dealers. Sensationalistic, but real parts of the contemporary world.

Where superheroes get tripped up is the costume. It's incredibly difficult to get past the ridiculousness of "costumed heroes" - even Smallville has danced around and around this, and ridiculousness is its coin in trade (well, that and beautiful 20 somethings). A guy in a bat costume pretty much automatically knocks out most adults' suspension of disbelief in the context of law or police procedural.

However, I've long thought that there was a cable show possiblity in a Gotham Central-ish type take on Batman (number one big stumbling block - see below). The thing is it would have to be significantly different from the comics -it would have to hinge on the moral question of vigilantism and the questions this throws to the cops and lawyers of Gotham City. Meaning the vigilante absolutely could not be regarded as a hero, either from inside or outside the narrative. At best, the main lawyer and cop characters might be able to take some pleasure in the vigilante's freedom to mete out harsh jsutice without worrying about things like rights and due process. References to the costume, probably including the name "Batman" would have to be kept to an absolute minimum and avoided completely if possible, 'cause, you know what? "Batman" is a goofy name/ title for anyone to go by. (number two big stumbling block - see further below)

#1 big stumbling block for such a take, especially if one added the requisite gratuitous sex and violence that makes HBO/ Showtime shows so much fun, is that Warner Bros would never give permission for a character they need to keep nominally safe for kids to be given such a treatment. And to be interesting at all to this hypothetical adult audience, you'd have to touch on things like incidental deaths caused by the vigilante's activities, property damage, violation of rights, public endangerment.

# 2 big stumbling block - avoiding all reference to the costume would beg the question of why this is attached to the Batman brand at all. The supposed tension of what's going to happen in the comics (Dent becoming Two-Face, etc) wouldn't really mean much to an adult audience, who doesn't care whether or not things end up as they are in the comics, much as Smallville's main audience doesn't care that Clark doesn't wear glasses and met everyone he was ever going to know in his life while he was in high school in a small town in Kansas.

That is, if you make it Batman, it's hard to make it so that an adult audience can swallow it. If you make it so an adult audience will dig it, it's hard to make it Batman.

So, what probably really needs to be pitched is a show focusing on a driven DA in a city where there's a clever vigilante who is a morally ambiguous villain. The DA can be as troubled as you like - abusive father, multiple personalities and all, in fact that probably makes a stronger pitch. But I don't think the vigilante can be Batman. Not to say you couldn't have a wealthy scion of an important family running about, being pals with the DA. But then Warner Bros would probably sue you.

It's problematical, as much as we might like to fantasize about it.
 
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^
Pretty dead on the money. I pretty much think Dexter has covered the base well enough also; in dealing with an adult take on the superhero idea.
 
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