• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Woot, some news worth wathcing (Myself, anyhow)

Is there better video? I am not sure about this until I see more.
 
Crazy drunk communists can't even fly a pyramid straight.


Now I'm curious about "Russia's version of YouTube" Comrade Vision?
 
So something big hovered for hours over the centre of Russia's government, they didn't scramble the air force, no one panicked, and there's only two crappy bits of footage (in a city of millions)?

I cal b*llsh*t.
 
There's nothing being reported on CNN; a Google search only brings up tinfoil-hat sites. Apparently it doesn't even rate as the Oddball Story Of The Week.
 
Aha, so the tale of imminent disclosure was true, except the aliens are siding with the Ruskies and Putin's flying head!!

I for one welcome our new space-faring-communist-Egyptian overlords. :)
 
So something big hovered for hours over the centre of Russia's government, they didn't scramble the air force, no one panicked, and there's only two crappy bits of footage (in a city of millions)?

I cal b*llsh*t.

Ditto.

Two terrible videos from a city of over 10 million? Not even one person in the area had a DSLR? Why weren't local news teams all over this? And Russia is a big, powerful, and somewhat paranoid country, if something like this actually was hovering over their capital, you bet your ass that more than a few MiGs would drop by. No way in hell is this real.
 
Is there something you don't fall for, Castellan? :lol:

Proove to me it's fake. :p

And I say, why even bother scrambling an air force to intercept it? If it's from a culture of suprior tech, it's going to be pointless. I seen many objects in the sky near me, and I don't run out to grab a shotgun and get ready.

Sometimes an open hand and a welcoming smile can be more effective than the machine guns and missles ready. :bolian:
 
Is there something you don't fall for, Castellan? :lol:

Proove to me it's fake. :p
Burden of proof is on the claimant, buddy. ;)

And I say, why even bother scrambling an air force to intercept it? If it's from a culture of suprior tech, it's going to be pointless. I seen many objects in the sky near me, and I don't run out to grab a shotgun and get ready.

Sometimes an open hand and a welcoming smile can be more effective than the machine guns and missles ready. :bolian:
Yeah, I'm sure that is the reason the Russian government did nothing about a fucking starship over its capital city. :lol:
 
Is there something you don't fall for, Castellan? :lol:

Proove to me it's fake. :p
Burden of proof is on the claimant, buddy. ;)

And I say, why even bother scrambling an air force to intercept it? If it's from a culture of suprior tech, it's going to be pointless. I seen many objects in the sky near me, and I don't run out to grab a shotgun and get ready.

Sometimes an open hand and a welcoming smile can be more effective than the machine guns and missles ready. :bolian:
Yeah, I'm sure that is the reason the Russian government did nothing about a fucking starship over its capital city. :lol:

I till require proof. :p Also, as shocking as this seems, there's more to life, and the universe in general, than taxes, pig flu, mobile phones, Katie's devorce, and a six foot hole in the ground. :bolian:

Just cause us dumb Americans would shoot first and ask questions later, does not mean all people in the world are dumb hicks like us.
 
I till require proof. :p
You can require until your head fall off, it doesn't mean it will makes any more sense. ;)

Also, as shocking as this seems, there's more to life, and the universe in general, than taxes, pig flu, mobile phones, Katie's devorce, and a six foot hole in the ground. :bolian:
I agree with you, but I still don't see it as a reason to believe anything I lay my eyes upon. Being a skeptical and critical thinker is not a bad or a sad thing, you know. Kinda, the opposite.

Just cause us dumb Americans would shoot first and ask questions later, does not mean all people in the world are dumb hicks like us.
As commendable is self-deprecation is Americans, it's kind of wasted on Putin's government, really.
 
I till require proof. :p
You can require until your head fall off, it doesn't mean it will makes any more sense. ;)

Also, as shocking as this seems, there's more to life, and the universe in general, than taxes, pig flu, mobile phones, Katie's devorce, and a six foot hole in the ground. :bolian:
I agree with you, but I still don't see it as a reason to believe anything I lay my eyes upon. Being a skeptical and critical thinker is not a bad or a sad thing, you know. Kinda, the opposite.

Just cause us dumb Americans would shoot first and ask questions later, does not mean all people in the world are dumb hicks like us.
As commendable is self-deprecation is Americans, it's kind of wasted on Putin's government, really.

I always look for proof before believing in anything. The monuments on Mars, for example. There's soooo many mathematical properties, as well as hyperdiamensional geometries, that no way in hell can the stuff on Mars, my good friend the face included, can merely be just 'a pile or rocks', despite what Nasa says officially. That's just one example of many.

My problem with some skeptics is this, even if you put proof in front of them, the best that there can be, they'll still never believe it, I call them debunkers.

Debunker: OH, look...another, blurry, shaky video/picture.
They are given a much better image someone took of the same object...
Debunker: Oh, come on, that picture is too good a quality, so it's fake.

Some of them won't believe it, even if an alien had its ship over the person's house, knocked on the door, waves and said "Hi, how are you?" and beamed back on board the ship and took off again.

And the funny thing is, some of these debunkers I know personally believe in a god...which is even HARDER to proove than alien existence. :p

Know what I mean? :bolian:
 
I always look for proof before believing in anything. The monuments on Mars, for example. There's soooo many mathematical properties, as well as hyperdiamensional geometries, that no way in hell can the stuff on Mars, my good friend the face included, can merely be just 'a pile or rocks', despite what Nasa says officially. That's just one example of many.
:lol: Yeah, sure. Tell me more about that "hyperdimensional physics" and "monuments on Mars". Then again, don't.

My problem with some skeptics is this, even if you put proof in front of them, the best that there can be, they'll still never believe it, I call them debunkers.
No. Give me actual proofs, and I'll agree with you. Give me shaky videos, grainy pictures, wacky theories, and I'll tell you it's bunch of bullshit.

Some of them won't believe it, even if an alien had its ship over the person's house, knocked on the door, waves and said "Hi, how are you?" and beamed back on board the ship and took off again.
Then again, call me when this happen. Before that, it's on par with the jackalope and the ouija boards.

And the funny thing is, some of these debunkers I know personally believe in a god...which is even HARDER to proove than alien existence. :p

Know what I mean? :bolian:
Yeah, it means that you believe in UFO the same way people believes in god: faith. You just see what I want to see.
 
Last edited:
I always look for proof before believing in anything. The monuments on Mars, for example. There's soooo many mathematical properties, as well as hyperdiamensional geometries, that no way in hell can the stuff on Mars, my good friend the face included, can merely be just 'a pile or rocks', despite what Nasa says officially. That's just one example of many.
:lol: Yeah, sure. Tell me more about that "hyperdimensional physics" and "monuments on Mars". Then again, don't.
My problem with some skeptics is this, even if you put proof in front of them, the best that there can be, they'll still never believe it, I call them debunkers.
No. Give me actual proofs, and I'll agree with you. Give me shaky videos, grainy pictures, wacky theories, and I'll tell you it's bunch of bullshit.

Some of them won't believe it, even if an alien had its ship over the person's house, knocked on the door, waves and said "Hi, how are you?" and beamed back on board the ship and took off again.
Then again, call me when this happen. Before that, it's on par with the jackalope and the ouija boards.

And the funny thing is, some of these debunkers I know personally believe in a god...which is even HARDER to proove than alien existence. :p

Know what I mean? :bolian:
Yeah, it means that you believe in UFO the same way people believes in god: faith. You just see what I want to see.

Well, what's in the skies that people say they see? And how can they move in ways that breaks the supposed laws of physics we go by? And I'm certain not everyone who takes the videos are adept with video editing/photoshop stuff.
 
Well, what's in the skies that people say they see? And how can they move in ways that breaks the supposed laws of physics we go by?
Well, excuse me if I doubt that most people can judge the breaking of the law of physics by the naked eye, in the dark, about a supposedly fast-moving object appearing up in the sky where the perspective is all fucked.

And in any event, I will answer with the reply that every good scientist should have in his pocket, ready to admit that the universe is both weird and wonderful: I don't know.

Some of them are easily explained, some are not. But to jump from "I don't know what it is" to "it's the aliens!" is a pretty big jump, and it should be adequately backed by evidences. Otherwise, you fall into superstitious thinking, just like the ancients that conjured Thor to explain the lightning.

And I'm certain not everyone who takes the videos are adept with video editing/photoshop stuff.
I have no problem with bad editing when it's someone's holiday pictures. When it's science, I ask for a bit more of rigor.
 
if a fucking 'mile wide' pyramid ship showed up over the capital of any industrialised nation you can bet your ass the local flyboys would have fast-movers in the area and probably helos hovering around it checking it out and trying to determine WTF it was. you can also bet your ass that half the city would be screaming in terror and running around like Turkeys on chopping day and it'd be all over every rolling news channel.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top