Wolf 359 Prelude, Parts I and II

Oh wow. That's intense. Part Two will be interesting to see how the conclusion is handled.
 
Brilliant. Horrifying. And exactly what we need. You can't help but watch over and over again.

One thing these videos have brought up. Where in canon did it ever get said that the U.S.S. Melbourne (NCC-62043) was Admiral Hanson's flagship? BoBW, Part II has gives no indication. And in Emissary, it was the first ship to be destroyed in battle while Hanson was at least around long enough to realise the fight was against Starfleet and attempted a withdrawal. I suppose the way Shelby said "...Melbourne." to Riker in the aftermath could come close but considering how she was aware of Riker's offer to captain the ship and was gunning for his job as first officer, it's likely "...this was the ship you were offered."

Far as I'm aware, only a comic from the VOY run called "Ghosts" indicates Melbourne was Hanson's flagship, and comics are contradictory. But the script says Hanson was using the battle bridge of a Galaxy-class starship for his transmission, and the script would usually be the first place to go for such information anyway. Yes, the "Red Alert" symbol is TMP era -- but that could mean its a Miranda, a Constitution, Oberth, Constellation, Excelsior or any ships in service since the 2270s and still in active or semi active service in 2367 anyway. Perhaps it was a preferential choice of the ship's captain? perhaps he/she/they prefer the TMP style red alerts to the more modern ones?

Sometimes I feel that fanon creep has created a deep trench that has swallowed too many people and they can't get out of it.
 
Honestly, I’d never heard the idea the Melbourne was the flagship until people started responding to complaints about it in this and WHEtB. I didn’t even see the complaints themselves, that’s how obscure it is. Real tenth-level Star Trek iceburg stuff.
 
Honestly, I’d never heard the idea the Melbourne was the flagship until people started responding to complaints about it in this and WHEtB. I didn’t even see the complaints themselves, that’s how obscure it is. Real tenth-level Star Trek iceburg stuff.

Apparently their evidence is on the Excelsior that took Hanson and Shelby to Jouret IV. It was unnamed in BoBW, Part I and referred to in the script as a "transport class" -- the model itself either has the registry of the Hood or Repulse NCC-25?? (in Preludes, Part I Q&A, it is noted that the U.S.S. Columbia was the ship to bring Hanson and Shelby to Jouret IV but the scene wasn't shown). And at that point, the Melbourne's class was unknown. When they did BoBW, Part II, it was a proto-Nebula class. It wasn't until Emissary when it got changed to an Excelsior, which was the first ship to be destroyed at Wolf 359 before the Saratoga. That's their evidence but it wasn't there. And Hanson gives no indication the ship he came aboard was the Melbourne anyway. The distant-like talk of the ship by Hanson and Picard indicates to me personally it wasn't at or near Journet IV. It was really only the VOY comic Ghosts that says it was flagship but since it was destroyed right away, I highly doubt it.

I think fanon has become twisted. The vitriol for this apparent "travesty" is appalling.
 
That was really well done. Many fans always wanted to see more of the Battle of Wolf 359, and I'll admit, I was curious but didn't need it.
After having seen this, it adds so much more to the horror of that horrific battle. Very impressive and can't wait to see the second part.
 
Excited to see more from JTVFX, saw they have had some health issues so might be a while before part 2 drops but their work is just stunning, and an interesting take on 359 (honestly more excited for the other concepts shown like the Battle Group Omega Battle!)
 
Very interesting. The intense large battles will be interesting, but oddly I'm very interested in seeing alternate takes of the NCC-1701 in the Genesis trio of films. A Phase II Constitution for USS Reliant. The Klingon attack at Ceti Alpha V to depict all the additional damage in Enterprise, and Enterprise surviving to bring Spock to Vulcan (and likely bring home some whales.)
 
One of the “Myriad Universes” stories in the books had the Enterprise survive TSFS and be the ship in TVH. IIRC, the ship separated at the end when they got back to the present and the probe drained their power, and the saucer ditched into San Francisco Bay. I don’t think it was mentioned in the story, but I like to imagine they converted the recreation deck from TMP to the whale tank in that version. I didn’t want to say anything in the comments to disrupt whatever plans are already going on, but it seems like a pretty spectacular alternative take.
 
There was an older project by JTVFX about the Whale Probe. I believe it ends with the whole Enterprise coming into San Francisco Bay. Screaming past Starfleet HQ.
 
Why headless though? It's not unreasonable to believe Hansen would use the Battle Bridge as his own personal command center to manage fleet operations while the Main Bridge was used by the regular crew to operate the ship.

Perhaps Hanson believed that the Borg threat was so uniquely deadly that all nonesssential personnel had to be left behind (in the saucer).

The Dominion? All they can do is kill you. (Several Galaxy-class ships took part in that war, with saucers included.) Borg assimilation would be too dangerous to ignore.

Edit: I wonder who, in-universe, the Auriga was named after. The security officer from "The Entropy Effect", perhaps?
 
I suppose the way Shelby said "...Melbourne." to Riker in the aftermath could come close but considering how she was aware of Riker's offer to captain the ship and was gunning for his job as first officer, it's likely "...this was the ship you were offered."
This was exactly why she mentioned it, because it validated Riker’s decision to stay aboard Enterprise, as otherwise he’d now be dead. I’m not sure why some folks started thinking this meant it was the fleet’s flagship.
Borg assimilation would be too dangerous to ignore.
Although, it wasn’t known to the Federation at the time that assimilation was a thing.
 
I figured the pause before Shelby mentioned the Melbourne was because Hanson was aboard and if his ship (and his self) were gone then that really indicated that significant hope was lost. Much as, if the E-D had been destroyed, someone else taking note of the ships might have paused before mentioning it.

It made a certain amount of sense to me that if Melbourne was in need of a captain then Hanson might have commanded it while awaiting Riker's decision.

I suppose there's some presumption there, but I wouldn't say it's an unreasonable amount.

Of course, there's also no reason why it can't be both reasons. Both the loss of Hanson and the loss of Riker's potential command.
 
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