With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp speed

[stoneroses]

I found this article on Google news last night. (Not to be confused with the story in UK free sheet Metro).

'American physicists Gerald Cleaver and Richard Obousy are proposing a “hypothetical propulsion device” that could travel faster than the speed of light without violating any laws of physics. However, we’ll have to ask Scotty for enormous amounts of dilithium crystals!'....

Read the fill story here: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20043/1066/

If nothing else it is interesting.
Any thoughts?

 

[Uplink]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

Isn't there a thread on the same topic just two threads down?

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

does somebody always have to mention freakin' star trek every time the subject of FTL travel comes up? you'd think Roddenberry invented the idea or something...yeesh.

 

[Amaris]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

does somebody always have to mention freakin' star trek every time the subject of FTL travel comes up? you'd think Roddenberry invented the idea or something...yeesh.

Yes. Yes they do.

You'd think by this time these people would have created a board devoted to their love of Star Trek. I mean, on that board, I could understand why so many would want to compare Faster than Light travel to Star Trek and warp speed, you know, because it would be a Star Trek board, and they'd have ranks and avatars with Trek logos and names, and such, but here? This is neither time, and certainly not the place, to discuss Star Trek in relation to faster than light travel.

But, what are ya gonna do? /shrug


J.

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

does somebody always have to mention freakin' star trek every time the subject of FTL travel comes up? you'd think Roddenberry invented the idea or something...yeesh.

Yes. Yes they do.

You'd think by this time these people would have created a board devoted to their love of Star Trek. I mean, on that board, I could understand why so many would want to compare Faster than Light travel to Star Trek and warp speed, you know, because it would be a Star Trek board, and they'd have ranks and avatars with Trek logos and names, and such, but here? This is neither time, and certainly not the place, to discuss Star Trek in relation to faster than light travel.

But, what are ya gonna do? /shrug


J.

I'm talking about the mention of trek in article itself not in reference to those who post here in the forum.

 

[Amaris]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

does somebody always have to mention freakin' star trek every time the subject of FTL travel comes up? you'd think Roddenberry invented the idea or something...yeesh.

Yes. Yes they do.

You'd think by this time these people would have created a board devoted to their love of Star Trek. I mean, on that board, I could understand why so many would want to compare Faster than Light travel to Star Trek and warp speed, you know, because it would be a Star Trek board, and they'd have ranks and avatars with Trek logos and names, and such, but here? This is neither time, and certainly not the place, to discuss Star Trek in relation to faster than light travel.

But, what are ya gonna do? /shrug


J.

I'm talking about the mention of trek in article itself not in reference to those who post here in the forum.

I stand by my statement!

Oh, and of course they're going to mention Star Trek. They're scientists in the field of physics. It's what they know.

J.

 

[MarianLH]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

Maybe it's not fair, but Star Trek touched and inspired a lot more people than Lensman or Foundation ever will.


Marian

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

^yeah well. It gets on my nerves nonetheless.

 

[Meredith]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

Is anyone working on the Heim Drive, not necessarily the drive but an apparatus that could prove if the Heim Theory is correct about FTL or not...

 

[USS KG5]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

^yeah well. It gets on my nerves nonetheless.

The point in the first reply remains valid - Star Trek is a great TV show and enormously popular and you are posting on a Star Trek board - so if you dont like it being mentioned as an inspiration for physicists (which it is) or a popular example of FTL travel in fiction (which it is) then you are rather in the wrong place?

Star Trek did not do many things first, but it is probably the biggest sci-fi franchise of all time and is bound to get mentioned in the media as a reference in these kinds of article.

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

^I wouldn't care so much if it wasn't that just about every little "sci-fi becomes reality" article mentions trek. This is only because of its "appeal to the masses" quality. Sure trek is ok and i've enjoyed my share but i find that it gets too much credit for ideas that came long before it. Such is the nature of the mercantile - media driven culture i guess...


As to the Heim Drive - I too am intrigued but information is infuriatingly sparse (though understandable as heim was a recluse and few of his writings have been translated as far as i know) since an article a while ago about the defense department or whoever looking into it there hasn't been so much as a peep.

Similarly the Breakthrough Propulsion project has been seemingly dead for ages... what a shame.

 

[stoneroses]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

Going back to the point on do peope always have to mention star Trek when this sort of thing comes out.
At the newspaper I work for. It is Star Trek for a story about faster than light travel, Cloaking Device (though now Harry Potter is getting that one), Anit-gravity, Fusion, Cyborgs and many more.
...and any story about grumpy people it's Victor Meldrew

 

[Romulan_spy]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

does somebody always have to mention freakin' star trek every time the subject of FTL travel comes up? you'd think Roddenberry invented the idea or something...yeesh.

In this case, it is appropriate since the article is proposing a system very similar to what Star Trek uses.

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

does somebody always have to mention freakin' star trek every time the subject of FTL travel comes up? you'd think Roddenberry invented the idea or something...yeesh.

In this case, it is appropriate since the article is proposing a system very similar to what Star Trek uses.

it's appropriate only because they are going for the least common denominator.star trek is part of pop culture and in the US if you don't couch things in terms of tv or movies people have no idea what you're talking about.

it's sort of like "darmok" where that race talks via allusions to other works.

 

[Ronald Held]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

What other show, movie or novel so firmly cemented the concept and some Trek details of warp drive into the public's consciousness?

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

What other show, movie or novel so firmly cemented the concept and some Trek details of warp drive into the public's consciousness?

^most people probably don't even know what the light speed barrier is or why it cannot be crossed in conventional terms.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

But that article is just telling us the exact same idea for warp speed that we've had for years. It's the exact same premise of how warp drive works in Trek. WTF! This is nothing new, I heard the exact same idea about 10 years ago on TV from a scientist so why has two new scientists come out claiming it's their idea?

 

[Ronald Held]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

Yes the basic paradigm has not been shifted since Alcubierre published his paper. Working out the details for even a laboratory experiment seems to be a herculean task.

 

[bryce]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

You'd think by this time these people would have created a board devoted to their love of Star Trek. I mean, on that board, I could understand why so many would want to compare Faster than Light travel to Star Trek and warp speed, you know, because it would be a Star Trek board, and they'd have ranks and avatars with Trek logos and names, and such, but here? This is neither time, and certainly not the place, to discuss Star Trek in relation to faster than light travel.

J.

Naw, that would never work...

 

[zenophite]

Re: With Einstein's ok: Star Trek-type spacecraft can travel at warp s

But that article is just telling us the exact same idea for warp speed that we've had for years. It's the exact same premise of how warp drive works in Trek. WTF! This is nothing new, I heard the exact same idea about 10 years ago on TV from a scientist so why has two new scientists come out claiming it's their idea?

that's exactly the reaction i had - just another permutation on the Alcubierre idea.